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June 2025 Obs/Disco


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1 hour ago, CoastalWx said:

If you ever get the chance, go to the Bay side of the Cape in August. Especially Brewster to Welfleet. The water is so shallow that when the tide comes back in over those flats...it may as well be FL. It's pretty awesome. First Encounter beach in Eastham is one of my favorites. Nice lazy river there to go floating on as the tide comes in or out. 

Reid State Park (Maine midcoast) has a tidal pond that can reach 70+ on hot days, warmest just before the rising tide begins to mix in the 58° ocean water.

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5 minutes ago, tamarack said:

Reid State Park (Maine midcoast) has a tidal pond that can reach 70+ on hot days, warmest just before the rising tide begins to mix in the 58° ocean water.

One of my all-time favorite beaches. Except for the green heads.

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5 minutes ago, Torch Tiger said:

VG/VG+ job thus far from mesos, clearly hit the 19-23z for west/central.  it's just too bad everything looks anemic, shallow. ":/

poor mlvl lapse rates and the forcing still too far west. I'm wondering if maybe the pre-frontal trough can stay a bit stationary if that can allow for a bit of a boost in a few hours but it probsly shunts east 

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16 minutes ago, weatherwiz said:

poor mlvl lapse rates and the forcing still too far west. I'm wondering if maybe the pre-frontal trough can stay a bit stationary if that can allow for a bit of a boost in a few hours but it probsly shunts east 

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Yeah, agree about those lapse rates; big-time bummer there and not sure NWS BOS or ALB discussed it at all. I was really expecting to see those dark greens? at least, 6.5 C/km or higher.  Should have checked upstream soundings like you did

OTOH stuff will pop more easily, less lid?  I suppose.  At least there's weaker stuff :/

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2 minutes ago, Torch Tiger said:

Yeah, agree about those lapse rates; big-time bummer there and not sure NWS BOS or ALB discussed it at all. I was really expecting to see those dark greens? at least, 6.5 C/km or higher.  Should have checked upstream soundings like you did

OTOH the lower threshold for convection means stuff will pop more easily, less lid?  I suppose.  At least there's weaker stuff :/

Yeah we see stuff pop more easily but the trade off is weaker activity. This is why pre-frontal troughs hurt us more often than not...once we get the convective temp reached we start popping too early. This is one reason why those EMLs are so important. they keep a lid on things until the strongest forcing can arrive

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11 minutes ago, weatherwiz said:

Yeah we see stuff pop more easily but the trade off is weaker activity. This is why pre-frontal troughs hurt us more often than not...once we get the convective temp reached we start popping too early. This is one reason why those EMLs are so important. they keep a lid on things until the strongest forcing can arrive

and I'm sure lapse rates aren't a huge deal TBH, 6C or 6.5C/km very doable 90/70ish.  But you'd need slightly more dynamics, forcing, or shear.  probably two of those three, to offset not having that bouyancy.  Stronger forcing would have at least organized some of this stuff a bit more. 

Not great timing at all.

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1 minute ago, Torch Tiger said:

and I'm sure lapse rates aren't a huge deal TBH, 6C or 6.5C/km very doable 90/70ish.  But you'd need slightly more dynamics, forcing, or shear.  probably two of those three, to offset not having that bouyancy.  Not great timing at all.

Yeah 6.5 C/KM is respectable. 

Of course steep lapse rates aren't a requirement for severe weather, they are when you're talking about the potential for widespread and high end severe weather but you can still get severe with weak lapse rates, its just more very localized and typically not high end. 

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4 minutes ago, weatherwiz said:

Probably going to go hang in North Branford for a bit in the field next to police station. It's a nice open spot. But that still may be just a bit too much into marine influence. Maybe I'll do Wallingford. 

Drive up to the top of Castle Craig in Meriden. 

The round stone observation tower of native trap rock was built by local stone masons in 1900.  It stands on East Peak with an elevation of 976 feet.  The tower is 32 feet in height and 58 feet in circumference

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