June 2025 discussion-obs: Summerlike

[LibertyBell]

Just now, Sundog said:

Because I was hovering over Central Queens and I took a screenshot while in temps and wind barbs mode. 

That mode doesn't show temps across the area, just where you put your cursor. 

oh okay I figured it would be like a snowfall map which shows the totals in different parts of the area.

are you going to be using the micronet to confirm temps? which of the 23 I just posted is closest to you?

[Superstorm]

29 minutes ago, MANDA said:

Heat index already really nasty.

 

 

where do you get these nice maps?

[bluewave]

5 minutes ago, LibertyBell said:

Just a snapshot in time, some stations are going up while others are going down, this will be fun to track through the heatwave.

 

 

The warm spots around the area will probably challenge or exceed the all-time June heat set back in 2021. This extreme June heat reminds me of a monsoon climate. So it will be interesting to see if we get the 10”+amounts in a few hours to days later in the season like we have experienced following past June 100° heat in 2021 and 2024. 

[qg_omega]

Any storms today?

[MANDA]

7 minutes ago, Superstorm said:

where do you get these nice maps?

https://www.njweather.org/

[LibertyBell]

8 minutes ago, bluewave said:

The warm spots around the area will probably challenge or exceed the all-time June heat set back in 2021. This extreme June heat reminds me of a monsoon climate. So it will be interesting to see if we get the 10”+amounts in a few hours to days later in the season like we have experienced following past June 100° heat in 2021 and 2024. 

do you think they will add wind direction to their numbers later? They have the equipment to record all weather stats don't they?

[dWave]

2 hours ago, bluewave said:

Prior to the NWS leaving 30 Rock back in the early 1990s, they really did a great job maintaining the site at the castle. I actually got to meet the forecasters on a trip to the office back in the 80s. Granted they had plenty of struggles with vandals especially during the 1970s since the equipment was out in the open. So I guess they made the decision that hiding the equipment under the trees in 1995 was the way to go. Even though it has resulted in the high temperatures running 2° to perhaps 4° cooler on warm sunny days then they did when the ASOS was further from the trees. This is why the NWS didn’t like substituting LGA for NYC when they were waiting for the new equipment to arrive in the park. Since they are quoted in this NYT article stating that LGA used to run cooler than NYC in those days when the trees weren’t an issue. This is the opposite of what has happened in the last 30 years. 

https://www.nytimes.com/1977/07/22/archives/vandals-in-central-park-forcing-weather-service-to-seek-new-site.html

When the devices at the castle are not functioning, the Weather Service substitutes readings from La Guardia Airport. But Mr. Gibson said those readings do not really reflect conditions in the city, because they may be several degrees cooler in summer or warmer in winter than those in Central Park.

 

I suspected they partly like it being hidden because of potential vandals or curious people tampering with it. Also for historical purposes they don't want to mess with it even though they know it's not an ideal setup. There a reason most cities official readings are at airports and not in the heart of the city. It's very difficult to find a spot that meet NWS standards in the downtown of any major city. If you did it'd be prime real estate and someone would snatch it up for a more profitable use.

I think it also on the media to portray an accurate image of urban conditions and not just regurgitate whatever Central Park says. More NYC residents are closer to the airport sites anyway, and thats what weather apps will show.

From my time in DC I noticed they tend to give a closer to equal respect to all the offical reporting stations. 

[steve392]

86 out, in sun definitely feels it.  Out back in shade with breeze it's really comfortable.  Bright blue skies. 

 

[LibertyBell]

5 minutes ago, dWave said:

I suspected they partly like it being hidden because of potential vandals or curious people tampering with it. Also for historical purposes they don't want to mess with it even though they know it's not an ideal setup. There a reason most cities official readings are at airports and not in the heart of the city. It's very difficult to find a spot that meet NWS standards in the downtown of any major city. If you did it'd be prime real estate and someone would snatch it up for a more profitable use.

I think it also on the media to portray an accurate image of urban conditions and not just regurgitate whatever Central Park says. More NYC residents are closer to the airport sites anyway, and thats what weather apps will show.

From my time in DC I noticed they tend to give a closer to equal respect to all the offical reporting stations. 

simple solution : barbed wire electrified fence

con ed places their sensors out in the open so can the park.

[WeatherGeek2025]

currently 87 hot and kinda humid in midtown! looking forward to the actual heat next week!

[gravitylover]

3 hours ago, LibertyBell said:

were you living down here back then? I remember you said you lived on Long Island growing up I think.

Yup, a block off Oceanside Road.

[Sundog]

32 minutes ago, LibertyBell said:

oh okay I figured it would be like a snowfall map which shows the totals in different parts of the area.

are you going to be using the micronet to confirm temps? which of the 23 I just posted is closest to you?

Corona, but that's not saying much. I'm to the east and everyone has lawns and there are lots of trees. 

Despite that the Ambient stations are running close to Corona because during the day temps are similar. 

At night I wildly diverge from LGA. 

[LibertyBell]

6 minutes ago, Sundog said:

Corona, but that's not saying much. I'm to the east and everyone has lawns and there are lots of trees. 

Despite that the Ambient stations are running close to Corona because during the day temps are similar. 

At night I wildly diverge from LGA. 

I wonder why LGA is so warm at night (at all times of the year).

 

[LibertyBell]

10 minutes ago, gravitylover said:

Yup, a block off Oceanside Road.

you probably experienced Belle there too!!

[Sundog]

3 minutes ago, LibertyBell said:

I wonder why LGA is so warm at night (at all times of the year).

 

In winter on radiational cooling nights I could be 10 degrees colder than LGA. 

[LibertyBell]

2 minutes ago, Sundog said:

In winter on radiational cooling nights I could be 10 degrees colder than LGA. 

I've been up to 6 degrees colder than JFK on similar nights and 5 miles east of there lol

Temperatures are ramping up here, now 88!!

 

[dWave]

87 / 73 feels like 95

[jm1220]

12 minutes ago, dWave said:

87 / 73 feels like 95

Same here. Feels disgusting. 

[LibertyBell]

1 hour ago, LibertyBell said:

oh okay I figured it would be like a snowfall map which shows the totals in different parts of the area.

are you going to be using the micronet to confirm temps? which of the 23 I just posted is closest to you?

Okay so Howard Beach is too close to the water to match my readings, it's only 80 degrees there lol, while it's 92 in Corona.  Even Ozone Park is 84, which is somewhat cooler than it is here.

 

 

[qg_omega]

91/78 on my Davis lol

[steve392]

Omg, 5 minutes of helping wife outside I wanna die.  I'm soaked from sweat.  

[Stormlover74]

One tiny little cell has popped up to my south. Might get a quick downpour

[nycwinter]

first time since last summer i actually did not wear a hoodie or light jacket today just a shirt i am going to have to get used to it..

[winterwx21]

4 minutes ago, Stormlover74 said:

One tiny little cell has popped up to my south. Might get a quick downpour

Yep, it's pouring here right now. 

[Stormlover74]

4 minutes ago, winterwx21 said:

Yep, it's pouring here right now. 

Raining now but not heavy

Spoke too soon now it is coming down

[allgame830]

I love how people complain and whine when it gets hot. This is our climo from now to September it is what it is. Bring the heat!!! Gets some 100’s recorded next week. 

[allgame830]

88/76 real feel 99 

[Snowlover11]

pop up just southwest of me.

[lee59]

86 here, should get at least my 2nd 90 plus day this season over the next few days, maybe today.

[steve392]

Nice storm starting to build over my house.  Could feel the cold the breeze from it