40/70 Benchmark Posted 1 hour ago Author Share Posted 1 hour ago 1 hour ago, PhiEaglesfan712 said: La nina by itself isn't always bad. Just as a deep -IOD isn't always bad by itself. But those two things in combination almost certainly spells a cooked winter. If you have a la nina, you need a +IOD or near neutral IOD to have a chance. If you have a deep -IOD, you need an el nino or near ENSO neutral. La nina and deep -IOD is just not going to work. Unless you're looking for a blowtorch winter and very little snow. Not the case for New England. You tend to speak as though your climo applies to everyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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FPizz Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago 6 minutes ago, snowman19 said: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaWx Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago 3 minutes ago, FPizz said: I have to admit that it would be funny to see the NE Pacific cool back more than the W Pac and see how weenie forecasters would then spin it. Of course @snowman19would have a blast! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowman19 Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago 1 minute ago, GaWx said: I have to admit that it would be funny to see the NE Pacific cool back more than the W Pac and see how weenie forecasters would then spin it. Just this morning a pro met (no, not JB) said the warm blob was strengthening. Funny how some live in the Land of Make Believe 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anthonymm Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago 10 hours ago, GaWx said: Was this one posted before? I get them all mixed up with their typically fictitious southern battle zones and NE blizzard watches and huge snowstorms and N Plains polar vortices and amazingly enough always warm/dry in the W where E US wx weenies conveniently don’t care: https://www.powder.com/news/east-coast-blizzard-watch-winter *Edit: I just noticed that this is the one posted yesterday that I even commented on lol. I told you guys I get these mixed up and this is proof! Lol yeah the pattern in recent years has been the total opposite in fact. Cold out west, blowtorch in the east. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anthonymm Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago 17 minutes ago, FPizz said: Yeah the winter pattern is set. The warm blob's gonna go away, the western pac will boil. We'll get a horrible zonal pac jet that floods the east with warm mild air, and the rockies and west will get freezing cold and snowstorms every day. 22-23 / 23-24 repeat, but possibly worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowman19 Posted 57 minutes ago Share Posted 57 minutes ago If this dry pattern continues into October and it looks like it will, my fear is that this drought has a chance of becoming worse than last fall….that dry pattern didn’t start until after mid-August, this one started at the tail end of July Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roardog Posted 39 minutes ago Share Posted 39 minutes ago I think these warm blobs are nothing more than a result of the pattern and not an influencer of the pattern. I think it could help feedback but no way can it overpower other influencing factors IMO. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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