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On 9/22/2024 at 3:48 PM, MJO812 said:

We need this in 4 months. 

Unfortunately, it wouldn’t be much help in 4 months if the Greenland Block continues linking up with the Southeast Ridge. Notice how the Southeast Ridge is correcting stronger for Thursday. So the models have pushed the heaviest rains north of I-78 from previous runs. We also get into SW flow which has been a rarity this month. So the usual warm spots in NJ could make it over 80° in what was originally forecast to be a cooler day. 

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1 hour ago, bluewave said:

Unfortunately, it wouldn’t be much help in 4 months if the Greenland Block continues linking up with the Southeast Ridge. Notice how the Southeast Ridge is correcting stronger for Thursday. So the models have pushed the heaviest rains north of I-78 from previous runs. We also get into SW flow which has been a rarity this month. So the usual warm spots in NJ could make it over 80° in what was originally forecast to be a cooler day. 

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A swap with what was a much warmer forecast for Monday (yesterday).   Clouds may get in the way but if enough sun heights pushing 588 DM and 850 MB temps in the 16c range.  What an interesting pattern

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63 / 50 cloudy. Cloudy and showers and some spotty drizzle today and Wed.  Helene targets the Panhandle and southeast and pumps heights on the EC. Warmer Thu / Fri could get to or exceed 80 with enough clearing. Drier weekend, may be cloudy Saturday but a nicer sunday.  Overall drier and warmer.

 

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10 hours ago, nycwinter said:

only a problem if the braves win the first 2 games..

Looks like Wed/Thu are possible rain outs and for Atl it remains wet Fri/Sat vs the KC R.   Not sure what MLB would do,  they only have Mon 30th before the WC playoffs.  Atl should and every other EC team have built a dome.  

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50 minutes ago, Allsnow said:

Brutal. Driest September on record 

All previous major hurricanes taking the same track as Helene came NNE up along the coast or OTS. This will be the first time a major hurricane bends back toward the NW. Just goes to show how anomalous a blocking pattern we are in.

 

All historical major hurricanes taking track close to forecast Helene

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Rare bend back to NW after landfall

 

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6 minutes ago, bluewave said:

All previous major hurricanes taking the same track as Helene came NNE up along the coast or OTS. This will be the first time a major hurricane bends back toward the NW. Just goes to show how anomalous a blocking pattern we are in.

 

All historical major hurricanes taking track close to forecast Helene

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Rare bend back to NW after landfall

 

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That’s two gulf storms this month that failed to produce a sprinkle here 

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11 minutes ago, bluewave said:

All previous major hurricanes taking the same track as Helene came NNE up along the coast or OTS. This will be the first time a major hurricane bends back toward the NW. Just goes to show how anomalous a blocking pattern we are in.

 

All historical major hurricanes taking track close to forecast Helene

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Rare bend back to NW after landfall

 

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Assuming Helene to be strengthens to a major hurricane, we shall see. If not, what do those maps show?  Probably a bend back NW, etc. 

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3 minutes ago, Stormlover74 said:

It's kinda funny all the talk of a major hurricane and it's not even named yet.

The way this hurricane season has gone to date, I'd be hesitant to go along with the models on intensity, especially at this early stage of development too.  We'll see how strong PTC9 gets in the days ahead.

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22 minutes ago, uofmiami said:

Assuming Helene to be strengthens to a major hurricane, we shall see. If not, what do those maps show?  Probably a bend back NW, etc. 

All 22 hurricanes of any intensity passing through that area moving NNE continued recurving to the NE and none bent back to the NW.

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6 minutes ago, Allsnow said:

All this hurricane talk as The Atlantic continues to be a dry desert. Major fail by the pros of a active/historic season 

It's been so boring that a typical cane in the gulf is a major topic lol.  Kind of like in some of our horrid winters how an inch or two snow event becomes a big deal.

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18 minutes ago, Allsnow said:

All this hurricane talk as The Atlantic continues to be a dry desert. Major fail by the pros of a active/historic season 

The landfall forecast was better than the ACE and total storms which were too high. It’s interesting that the Euro correctly forecast the more stable air over the tropics but missed on the ACE and number of storms. The summer temperature forecast did very well.

 

 

 

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