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SACRUS Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 3 minutes ago, LibertyBell said: Wow, I didn't know Valentine's Day is the anniversary of the great 1899 BLIZZARD! Did the one in 1940 also affect our area? And today is the 8 year anniversary of the last time NYC went below zero! 1899 - A great blizzard struck the eastern U.S. Washington D.C. received 20.5 inches of snow to bring their total snow depth to nearly three feet. The storm produced 36 inches of snow at Cape May NJ. (David Ludlum) 1940 - A "Saint Valentine's Day Blizzard" hit the northeastern U.S. Up to a foot and a half of snow blanketed southern New England, and whole gales accompanied the heavy snow stranding many in downtown Boston. (David Ludlum) 1940: A St. Valentine's Day Blizzard blankets New England with up to 18 inches of snow. Gale force winds associated with the storm strand many in downtown Boston. I dont think the 1940 storm was significant for our area. 1899 had several storms 1899 February 1899 was the second-coldest February in the contiguous U.S. (behind only 1936). The average temperature was 25.50 °F (−3.61 °C), which was 8.36 °F (4.64 °C) colder than the 1895–2024 average of 33.86 °F (1.03 °C) and 0.27 °F (0.15 °C) warmer than February 1936.[4] December 1898 through February 1899 was the third-coldest meteorological winter in the contiguous U.S. (behind the coldest and second-coldest winters of 1978/79 and 1935/36, respectively). The average temperature was 27.95 °F (−2.25 °C), which was 4.47 °F (2.48 °C) colder than the 1895–2017 average of 32.42 °F (0.23 °C) and 1.34 °F (0.74 °C) warmer than the 1978/79 winter.[5] the Great Blizzard of 1899, it occurred during one of the most extreme outbreaks of arctic air ever recorded in the United States, and remembered for just how widespread the snowfall was, particularly across areas of the Southeast. Snow showers were reported as far south as New Orleans, LA and Tampa, FL. Much of Florida recorded record cold temperatures as the storm crossed, including Miami falling to 29°F. Following an initial blizzard on February 8th that dropped 14" of snow, temperatures plummeted to their coldest on record including -15°F for downtown D.C. while Quantico dropped to -20°F. A week later, this second and stronger blizzard added an additional nearly 21" of snow. By the time the snow was done, D.C. had a official snow depth of 34" (from both blizzards) which is a record that remains to this day. February of 1899 remains the snowiest month on record for D.C. with 35.2" of snow. The winter of 1899 was so cold over the eastern United States that ice flowed from the Mississippi River into the Gulf of Mexico. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RU848789 Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 2 minutes ago, MJO812 said: Was just about to post this. That's respectable as opposed to the NAM. Might need a thread soon, as this is <3 days away and even a 1-3" event is noteworthy, IMO, in a winter like this. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEG NAO Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 Thursday nights frontal system passage with much colder air following helps set up potential few inches of snow here late friday night into saturday also higher ratios this time around more then 10:1. Where this front sets up and the path of the LP along it will determine where the heaviest snow falls just north of the track 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 1 minute ago, SACRUS said: I dont think the 1940 storm was significant for our area. 1899 had several storms 1899 February 1899 was the second-coldest February in the contiguous U.S. (behind only 1936). The average temperature was 25.50 °F (−3.61 °C), which was 8.36 °F (4.64 °C) colder than the 1895–2024 average of 33.86 °F (1.03 °C) and 0.27 °F (0.15 °C) warmer than February 1936.[4] December 1898 through February 1899 was the third-coldest meteorological winter in the contiguous U.S. (behind the coldest and second-coldest winters of 1978/79 and 1935/36, respectively). The average temperature was 27.95 °F (−2.25 °C), which was 4.47 °F (2.48 °C) colder than the 1895–2017 average of 32.42 °F (0.23 °C) and 1.34 °F (0.74 °C) warmer than the 1978/79 winter.[5] the Great Blizzard of 1899, it occurred during one of the most extreme outbreaks of arctic air ever recorded in the United States, and remembered for just how widespread the snowfall was, particularly across areas of the Southeast. Snow showers were reported as far south as New Orleans, LA and Tampa, FL. Much of Florida recorded record cold temperatures as the storm crossed, including Miami falling to 29°F. Following an initial blizzard on February 8th that dropped 14" of snow, temperatures plummeted to their coldest on record including -15°F for downtown D.C. while Quantico dropped to -20°F. A week later, this second and stronger blizzard added an additional nearly 21" of snow. By the time the snow was done, D.C. had a official snow depth of 34" (from both blizzards) which is a record that remains to this day. February of 1899 remains the snowiest month on record for D.C. with 35.2" of snow. The winter of 1899 was so cold over the eastern United States that ice flowed from the Mississippi River into the Gulf of Mexico. Wow, this is absolutely amazing, thanks Tony! It's weird seeing 1935-36 in the list of coldest winters and coldest winter months considering how mild and snowless the 1930s generally were, if anything I would have thought 1933-34 would have the coldest winter and coldest month of that decade because of how extreme February 1934 was! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 Icon likes Mid Atlantic 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SBUWX23 Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 13 minutes ago, MJO812 said: This obviously includes snow from tomorrow night north of our area 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormlover74 Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 4 minutes ago, SBUWX23 said: This obviously includes snow from tomorrow night north of our area Yes this is just saturday morning's event 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEG NAO Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 5 minutes ago, MJO812 said: Icon likes Mid Atlantic This probably doesn't fully take into account the higher snow ratios this time around - just like yesterdays clown map output didn't take into account the lower ratio's this storm will have at least 12:1 ratio and possibly as high as 15:1 in some areas 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Volcanic Winter Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 I’d like to crack double digits so I’d take this happily. Hoping we end up with a legit chance for something in that 22nd-ish window. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Volcanic Winter Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 Just now, NEG NAO said: This probably doesn't fully take into account the higher snow ratios this time around - just like yesterdays clown map output doesn't take into account the lower ratio's this storm will have at least 12:1 ratio and possibly as high as 15:1 in some areas What was the ratio in NNJ / NY state for yesterday’s storm? Something like 8:1? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEG NAO Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 Just now, Volcanic Winter said: What was the ratio in NNJ / NY state for yesterday’s storm? Something like 8:1? yes in that range lower in some areas 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormlover74 Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 1 minute ago, NEG NAO said: This probably doesn't fully take into account the higher snow ratios this time around - just like yesterdays clown map output didn't take into account the lower ratio's this storm will have at least 12:1 ratio and possibly as high as 15:1 in some areas Kuchera is slightly better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 4 minutes ago, NEG NAO said: This probably doesn't fully take into account the higher snow ratios this time around - just like yesterdays clown map output didn't take into account the lower ratio's this storm will have at least 12:1 ratio and possibly as high as 15:1 in some areas It just depends how far north it comes 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Volcanic Winter Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 3 minutes ago, NEG NAO said: yes in that range lower in some areas Suggests that yesterday’s event was close to a major storm, if it were only a tad slower and a bit colder. Still, it worked out for many of you up north substantially and I’m thrilled that was the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krs4Lfe Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 Hmm, looks like we’ll need a thread coming up maybe by tonight or tomorrow morning. Looks like mountains of WV and MD might need a winter storm warning if this trend continues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormlover74 Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 1 minute ago, MJO812 said: It just depends how far north it comes Unfortunately icon is usually too far north so I wouldn't use it. I like seeing the rgem so robust 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEG NAO Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 Just now, MJO812 said: It just depends how far north it comes which depends on where thursday night front sets up shop south of us with the LP on late friday into saturday riding along it 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 Just now, Stormlover74 said: Unfortunately icon is usually too far north so I wouldn't use it. I like seeing the rgem so robust This looks like a light event. There will be no time for it to bomb off the coast. Nothing wrong with 1-3 inches though. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 Just now, NEG NAO said: which depends on where thursday night front sets up shop south of us with the LP on late friday into saturday riding along it Good point The low will ride the front 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allsnow Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 Just now, Stormlover74 said: Unfortunately icon is usually too far north so I wouldn't use it. I like seeing the rgem so robust I thought the icon did well with yesterday’s event. It never bought into a nyc jackpot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will - Rutgers Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 i’m going 6-12 if i’m right i get a red tag if i’m wrong none of you will remember 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormlover74 Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 Just now, Allsnow said: I thought the icon did well with yesterday’s event. It never bought into a nyc jackpot It kept showing no snow south of 80 for days Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormlover74 Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 1 minute ago, MJO812 said: This looks like a light event. There will be no time for it to bomb off the coast. Nothing wrong with 1-3 inches though. Yeah I'm just saying we risk getting barely a coating if nam is right. I'm not expecting the 3 to 5 like southern areas may see 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEG NAO Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 1 minute ago, Stormlover74 said: Yeah I'm just saying we risk getting barely a coating if nam is right. I'm not expecting the 3 to 5 like southern areas may see many were saying the same thing in reverse ( favoring the northern areas) for yesterdays event at this same range 3 days out...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormlover74 Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 Gfs very weak for us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormlover74 Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 11 minutes ago, NEG NAO said: many were saying the same thing in reverse ( favoring the northern areas) for yesterdays event at this same range 3 days out...... This isn't nearly the same type of setup and won't be as prone to major shifts either way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winterwx21 Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 3 minutes ago, Stormlover74 said: Gfs very weak for us Yep too far south so it just brushes us with a coating. Hopefully the American models are too far south right now. RGEM looked great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 5 minutes ago, winterwx21 said: Yep too far south so it just brushes us with a coating. Hopefully the American models are too far south right now. RGEM looked great. Cmc is north of gfs and 0z 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RU848789 Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 So, CMC, RGEM, Icon and NBM are good for 1-2" (and 3" in spots) for most of the area while the GFS/NAM have 1" or less generally. Let's see what the UK/Euro bring. Would love to get even a little more snow - not sure ours will last until Saturday. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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