wxmanmitch Posted December 3, 2021 Share Posted December 3, 2021 Still have a crusty 5-6" of snow pack that survived yesterday's "torch". In addition to the 8.0" of upslope from last Friday and 1-2" from the multitude of weak clippers, I had 3.1" of WAA snow early yesterday AM before rotting in CAD fog in the high 30s all day so the melting was slow. Even Woodford reached 43° F when I was only 38° F. I didn't mix out until the thunderstorm in the evening. It went from a calm fog to a sudden freight train from the W and NW with rain, pea sized hail, and graupel. It ended as some wet snow, yielding a 1/2" of small hail, graupel, and wet (now frozen) snow. Season snow total is 18.5". Not a bad start. Too bad Monday's stronger cutter probably wipes out what is a nice solid base for the snow mobilers and cross country skiers. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.Spin Posted December 4, 2021 Share Posted December 4, 2021 Event totals: 0.9” Snow/0.24” L.E. We’ve mostly cleared out, and the radar looks quiet, so I’d say we’re done with this most recent system and the above totals should represent the final values. That was the 10th accumulating storm of the season, with two storms thus far in December and eight from November. That’s a respectable number of storms for November, and it was a decent winter month with fairly average numbers in most snow categories I track. I’m planning to put together the summary for the month with comparison to other Novembers when I get a chance. Details from the 6:00 P.M. Waterbury observations: New Snow: 0.2 inches New Liquid: 0.01 inches Snow/Water Ratio: 20.0 Snow Density: 5.0% H2O Temperature: 24.3 F Sky: Partly Cloudy Snow at the stake: 3.5 inches Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslot Posted December 4, 2021 Share Posted December 4, 2021 Dry out there, 26/3°F. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
backedgeapproaching Posted December 4, 2021 Share Posted December 4, 2021 1 hour ago, wxmanmitch said: Still have a crusty 5-6" of snow pack that survived yesterday's "torch". In addition to the 8.0" of upslope from last Friday and 1-2" from the multitude of weak clippers, I had 3.1" of WAA snow early yesterday AM before rotting in CAD fog in the high 30s all day so the melting was slow. Even Woodford reached 43° F when I was only 38° F. I didn't mix out until the thunderstorm in the evening. It went from a calm fog to a sudden freight train from the W and NW with rain, pea sized hail, and graupel. It ended as some wet snow, yielding a 1/2" of small hail, graupel, and wet (now frozen) snow. Season snow total is 18.5". Not a bad start. Too bad Monday's stronger cutter probably wipes out what is a nice solid base for the snow mobilers and cross country skiers. Interestingly even being on the western slopes I only got to 40.3F yesterday--which is pretty decent for here CAD wise (as Tamarack laughs) Still rock hard crust coverage, although will be long gone Monday like you mentioned. 13.5" season so far...pretty respectable, probably above average i would think. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted December 4, 2021 Share Posted December 4, 2021 Nice disco from BTV on tomorrow's snow shower and accumulation potential. Potential snowfall in the 1 to 3 inch range in most areas is forecast. However, given the convective nature, expect large variability across the region, with greatest chance for the deeper snow accumulations over the Adirondacks. It appears precipitation amounts will be enhanced due to moisture advection associated with moderately strong west to southwest low level trajectories off the eastern Great Lakes throughout the afternoon and evening. The surface moisture return will be evident with dew points surging back through the 20s to near 30 along with increasing southerly winds. These dynamics will promote better surface convergence along and ahead of the weak surface front. As a result, we should see widespread snow shower activity, and where surface based CAPE develops, briefly heavy snow showers lowering visibilities to under a mile can be expected. The latest convective allowing model guidance is bullish on this potential, especially across the Adirondack region in the afternoon and potentially over northern Vermont during the evening. High resolution ensemble data point to scattered heavy snow shower activity with low probabilities of snowfall accumulating an inch in an hour`s time. Note that accumulations will be limited by duration of this heavier snowfall. Currently looks like snow squall activity is unlikely, but will need to keep an eye on this potential if snow showers can organize around a low level frontal boundary. Given favorably cold conditions and roughly average snow ratios supporting a fairly dry snow, expect some blowing snow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted December 4, 2021 Share Posted December 4, 2021 The 18z EURO continues the weird highly concentrated but big QPF signal around the Spine in these parts. Crazy the QPF maps even print out a pixel or two of 0.50" water. Someone is going to get lit up very localized between Jay and Sugarbush . Too many models have showed some weirdly high QPF spots in the area that they must be seeing something. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhineasC Posted December 4, 2021 Author Share Posted December 4, 2021 16 already. Chilly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted December 4, 2021 Share Posted December 4, 2021 44 minutes ago, PhineasC said: 16 already. Chilly. Nice, 21F here with a good breeze. Adirondacks and Whites colder on the whole so far. Should be a cold night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted December 4, 2021 Share Posted December 4, 2021 3 hours ago, wxmanmitch said: Still have a crusty 5-6" of snow pack that survived yesterday's "torch". In addition to the 8.0" of upslope from last Friday and 1-2" from the multitude of weak clippers, I had 3.1" of WAA snow early yesterday AM before rotting in CAD fog in the high 30s all day so the melting was slow. Even Woodford reached 43° F when I was only 38° F. I didn't mix out until the thunderstorm in the evening. It went from a calm fog to a sudden freight train from the W and NW with rain, pea sized hail, and graupel. It ended as some wet snow, yielding a 1/2" of small hail, graupel, and wet (now frozen) snow. Season snow total is 18.5". Not a bad start. Too bad Monday's stronger cutter probably wipes out what is a nice solid base for the snow mobilers and cross country skiers. Why would lower 40s and a couple tenths of precip wipe out that cement base Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot21 Posted December 4, 2021 Share Posted December 4, 2021 3° at the wood pile at 7 am 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alex Posted December 4, 2021 Share Posted December 4, 2021 Currently 1.8F 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tamarack Posted December 4, 2021 Share Posted December 4, 2021 11 hours ago, Ginx snewx said: Why would lower 40s and a couple tenths of precip wipe out that cement base Monday's forecast for Manchester, VT is 56° and 1/4-1/2" RA with strong S/SW wind. Mitch's extra 1500' elevation may not be as much help as usual with that wind direction, and high wind/high dews make for pack-eating. Still, his place probably has the best chance of pack survival of any of the regular posters here. Low teens here this AM. The wind was still strong well into the overnight, preventing a drop into the singles. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wxmanmitch Posted December 4, 2021 Share Posted December 4, 2021 11 hours ago, Ginx snewx said: Why would lower 40s and a couple tenths of precip wipe out that cement base It'll probably be upper 40s, low 50s with similar dew points. This upcoming cutter is quite strong and should mix out the CAD around here. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mreaves Posted December 4, 2021 Share Posted December 4, 2021 9.6° for the low this morning. Second coldest so far, had 9.5° one morning last week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
backedgeapproaching Posted December 4, 2021 Share Posted December 4, 2021 Ice box up north last night--not sure if it was clouds, wind or what, but my low was only 25F last night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhineasC Posted December 4, 2021 Author Share Posted December 4, 2021 23 minutes ago, backedgeapproaching said: Ice box up north last night--not sure if it was clouds, wind or what, but my low was only 25F last night. Low was 13 here, breezy all night as usual. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted December 4, 2021 Share Posted December 4, 2021 It was 8F on my car when I left this morning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted December 4, 2021 Share Posted December 4, 2021 3 hours ago, tamarack said: Monday's forecast for Manchester, VT is 56° and 1/4-1/2" RA with strong S/SW wind. Mitch's extra 1500' elevation may not be as much help as usual with that wind direction, and high wind/high dews make for pack-eating. Still, his place probably has the best chance of pack survival of any of the regular posters here. Low teens here this AM. The wind was still strong well into the overnight, preventing a drop into the singles. 2 hours ago, wxmanmitch said: It'll probably be upper 40s, low 50s with similar dew points. This upcoming cutter is quite strong and should mix out the CAD around here. True, hey Mitch post some before and after pics. Also some added upslope tonight? Maybe more after FROPA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavisStraight Posted December 4, 2021 Share Posted December 4, 2021 2 hours ago, powderfreak said: It was 8F on my car when I left this morning. How thick is the ice on the ponds? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted December 4, 2021 Share Posted December 4, 2021 26 minutes ago, DavisStraight said: How thick is the ice on the ponds? That’s a great question, ha. I honestly don’t know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.Spin Posted December 4, 2021 Share Posted December 4, 2021 15 hours ago, Ginx snewx said: Why would lower 40s and a couple tenths of precip wipe out that cement base? I don’t really know the climate down there, but NOHRSC analysis certainly doesn’t suggest that the local snowpack here is going to disappear because of one mixed system, and I find the NOHRSC projections do a pretty nice job for our site using the CoCoRaHS data. The current snowpack isn’t just a bunch of fluff; even here in the valley it’s been around almost two weeks and it’s seen bolstering and consolidation from six storms. The projected system doesn’t have a ton or rain, and there’s frozen on both ends depending on location. I guess we’ll just have to see how it plays out, but If this was really a big deal, I think people would be talking about issues for the local resorts around here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavisStraight Posted December 4, 2021 Share Posted December 4, 2021 43 minutes ago, powderfreak said: That’s a great question, ha. I honestly don’t know. We had a skim coat the other day on the small and medium size ponds but that's gone. Some years down here you don't get enough ice to fish on the bigger lakes the whole year, and some years you get thick ice. I remember chopping through two feet to cut my holes on year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.Spin Posted December 4, 2021 Share Posted December 4, 2021 Snow just started up here at the house with the approach of this next system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tamarack Posted December 4, 2021 Share Posted December 4, 2021 Fortunately, this rain/wind/mess looks far less catastrophic than 12/25/20, but that mega-Grinch took out my 5" (with 1.8" LE) pack long before the rain had ended. Hope your 1" LE fares better on Monday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted December 4, 2021 Share Posted December 4, 2021 BTV down to 1/4 mile +SN METAR KBTV 041950Z AUTO 21010KT 1/4SM +SN FZFG BKN016 BKN030 OVC065 M01/M03 A2993 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wxmanmitch Posted December 4, 2021 Share Posted December 4, 2021 3 hours ago, Ginx snewx said: True, hey Mitch post some before and after pics. Also some added upslope tonight? Maybe more after FROPA I will on my Twitter. Is there some way to link my tweets on here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted December 4, 2021 Share Posted December 4, 2021 30 minutes ago, wxmanmitch said: I will on my Twitter. Is there some way to link my tweets on here? Copy link paste link 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted December 4, 2021 Share Posted December 4, 2021 Dumping snow. Nice scene out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alex Posted December 4, 2021 Share Posted December 4, 2021 22 minutes ago, powderfreak said: Dumping snow. Nice scene out there. Nice. Very light snow here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted December 4, 2021 Share Posted December 4, 2021 Somewhere between 1-2” and snowing steadily. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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