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15 minutes ago, Tolland Death Band said:

I won’t try to convince you to cross party lines lol. I am opining on the likelihood

Bingo.  No one was ever swayed politically on a message board in the history of the internet.  One of the many reasons politics was a hard no on here for so long, it’s just pointless.

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1 hour ago, PhineasC said:

I doubt very many people cross party lines at this point. That's a thing of the past, for the moment. Battle lines are drawn. The whole thing is a yawn these days. All fake and controlled. Red vs blue. Both serve corporate masters now.

I actually voted for our governor who is a R. I think he’s been great and works on both sides. He’s progressive on social issues.

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2 hours ago, DotRat_Wx said:

Biden was the 'best they got'. If Bernie ran, people closer to the middle would not have been as likely to vote for him. Largely due to the fact people are misinformed and scared of the far left.

Joe had the best shot to take down Trump. I really thank God for the guy. He is far from my favorite politician, but he gave the best chance to take down the MAGA dope in Washington.

 

I suspect history, given time, will define that era not so much as a 'dope in Washington,' but more of a reflection the judgement of people that made it all possible ( constituency) and the feckless nature of his rampart of enablers once he took that seat and office.   Look up the term 'Kakistocracy' - the definition in greater percentage is apropos.

This was not a political distinction that won him that seat - not really.  It was a state of morality and intelligence, combined; one that the failures won't admit to, all the way to the grave, too.  

he was kind of an impish 'bugs bunny' - he really was much more of a distracting puppet entertainer, for/while any interests connected could then benefit from toppling certain institutions that have been stressing their proxy in the marco econ fight - those that will come back, and will eventually place those interests entirely on the wrong side of history -

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Missouri is bucking the national trend with covid.  They had their highest daily case number today since early February.  They are behind the national average in vaccinations, but still almost 40% of the state is fully vaxxed (that is 40% of all Missouri residents, not 40% of vaccine eligible).  Combine that with prior infections and now being in summer, it's "impressive" to see rising numbers.  The deck is stacked against it in multiple ways and it still found a way to happen.  

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18 minutes ago, Hoosier said:

Missouri is bucking the national trend with covid.  They had their highest daily case number today since early February.  They are behind the national average in vaccinations, but still almost 40% of the state is fully vaxxed (that is 40% of all Missouri residents, not 40% of vaccine eligible).  Combine that with prior infections and now being in summer, it's "impressive" to see rising numbers.  The deck is stacked against it in multiple ways and it still found a way to happen.  

Glad we don’t live there 

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22 minutes ago, Hoosier said:

Missouri is bucking the national trend with covid.  They had their highest daily case number today since early February.  They are behind the national average in vaccinations, but still almost 40% of the state is fully vaxxed (that is 40% of all Missouri residents, not 40% of vaccine eligible).  Combine that with prior infections and now being in summer, it's "impressive" to see rising numbers.  The deck is stacked against it in multiple ways and it still found a way to happen.  

I don’t think anybody really gives a shyte anymore about COVID. It is what it is. It’s endemic in the population. It’ll eb and rise like any other respiratory virus. Lockdowns and masking are over. If people want a vaccine, it’s there. If they don’t get one and get sick and or die it’s on them. Some will get sick and or die that are vaxed.  Life’s full of risks but life goes on. At this point all this testing is pretty useless. 

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28 minutes ago, Hoosier said:

Missouri is bucking the national trend with covid.  They had their highest daily case number today since early February.  They are behind the national average in vaccinations, but still almost 40% of the state is fully vaxxed (that is 40% of all Missouri residents, not 40% of vaccine eligible).  Combine that with prior infections and now being in summer, it's "impressive" to see rising numbers.  The deck is stacked against it in multiple ways and it still found a way to happen.  

We've said this about a lot of countries. Seems like eventually it bucks the other way

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3 hours ago, Brian5671 said:

I think COVID and his gross mismanagement of it took him down more than any opponent-no COVID economy is humming along-maybe he doesnt win bigly like he did in 2016 but I think he still would have carried it....

he was likely to lose regardless.  a general rule of thumb is that the incumbent needs to be at about 47% approval rating to have a reasonable chance of winning.  he was in the low 40s for practically his entire presidency, even when the economy was great.  he 'surged' to 45% in the closing weeks of the campaign, which made it closer, and the dems voluntarily handicapped themselves by not knocking on doors or doing in-person registration events because of covid (understandably so).  the only way to win with such low approval ratings is to have some third party candidates in the mix to siphon votes, or to have an equally unlikeable opponent, ala 2016.

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37 minutes ago, Hoosier said:

Missouri is bucking the national trend with covid.  They had their highest daily case number today since early February.  They are behind the national average in vaccinations, but still almost 40% of the state is fully vaxxed (that is 40% of all Missouri residents, not 40% of vaccine eligible).  Combine that with prior infections and now being in summer, it's "impressive" to see rising numbers.  The deck is stacked against it in multiple ways and it still found a way to happen.  

the vaccines aren't anywhere near 95% efficacious against these variants, but if they prevent serious illness then they're still doing their jobs.

israel just reinstituted their mask mandate and a lot of vaccinated people got infected.  the 'wild' form of the virus doesn't exist anymore.

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22 minutes ago, fujiwara79 said:

the vaccines aren't anywhere near 95% efficacious against these variants, but if they prevent serious illness then they're still doing their jobs.

israel just reinstituted their mask mandate and a lot of vaccinated people got infected.  the 'wild' form of the virus doesn't exist anymore.

So much for nations vaccinating their way out of this. Some of us have been saying the world is going to need to get off the treadmill or it will never end.

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Why don't you respond instead of posting a weenie?

You know why you think masks don't work? Because no one actually stayed home and followed precautions like other countries. People in this country are too stupid

Not to mention the massive numbers of people who went to all of their family events and didn't wear any

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3 minutes ago, DotRat_Wx said:

Europe took it seriously for awhile then didn't. You want to see actual effort to stop the virus, look at Austraila 

Congrats on being smarter than all the scientists in the world

Australia is isolated with less people on an entire continent than New England  and New York. 
At any rate, masking is over. It ain’t coming back. At least here.

Smarter than all the other scientists ? Lol   Read Fauci’s emails.

Not really interested in continuing here. We’ll never agree. Let’s move on  

 

 

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39 minutes ago, WhitinsvilleWX said:

Australia is isolated with less people on an entire continent than New England  and New York. 
At any rate, masking is over. It ain’t coming back. At least here.

Smarter than all the other scientists ? Lol   Read Fauci’s emails.

Not really interested in continuing here. We’ll never agree. Let’s move on  

 

 

I'm crabby tonight, peace on earth

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