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36 minutes ago, RyanDe680 said:

Oh man.... FL available ICU beds were at 1,250 earlier in the week, down to 800 now....

Texas available hospital bed were at 12,925 earlier in the week... now at 11,500

yikes

Yeah, pretty bad, unfortunately it's pretty clear to me that there is a surge in deaths hitting these states, the numbers this week are all bad.

I do have hope that these states will flatten out in the coming weeks. It's sad to see this happening, this was all predicted by the health experts. I was worried about it in late April - Georgia reopened and didn't surge because people were being very cautious which created a false sense of security so people decided to cut loose and let their guards down. Surges like this threaten everything - the ability for the economy to recover, the ability for schools to successfully reopen and stay open.

How many times do we as a country need to learn the hard lessons that we need to respect the biology of this virus in order to live with it while we wait for an adequate vaccine, treatment or preventive. Dr. Fauci hit the nail on the head today when he highlighted the transmissibility as one of the major factors that sets this virus apart. The severity can be debated, I can see how some will minimize a death rate of 0.6% or wherever it ends up. But no one can deny the incredible ability this virus has to very quickly and dramatically fill up hospitals and ICUs like nothing we have ever seen in our lifetimes. 

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1 hour ago, mattb65 said:

Yeah, pretty bad, unfortunately it's pretty clear to me that there is a surge in deaths hitting these states, the numbers this week are all bad.

I do have hope that these states will flatten out in the coming weeks. It's sad to see this happening, this was all predicted by the health experts. I was worried about it in late April - Georgia reopened and didn't surge because people were being very cautious which created a false sense of security so people decided to cut loose and let their guards down. Surges like this threaten everything - the ability for the economy to recover, the ability for schools to successfully reopen and stay open.

How many times do we as a country need to learn the hard lessons that we need to respect the biology of this virus in order to live with it while we wait for an adequate vaccine, treatment or preventive. Dr. Fauci hit the nail on the head today when he highlighted the transmissibility as one of the major factors that sets this virus apart. The severity can be debated, I can see how some will minimize a death rate of 0.6% or wherever it ends up. But no one can deny the incredible ability this virus has to very quickly and dramatically fill up hospitals and ICUs like nothing we have ever seen in our lifetimes. 

What we need is some form of leadership.  I fully admit that I'm not a fan of Pritzker and his proposals (especially the tax increases) but he has navigated IL through this pretty well and I'd applaud him for that.  The only way out of this is if we work together as a team and make it happen.  While some areas are trending down, a lot of other areas are not, making this that much more difficult.  I know we all won't agree with what needs to be done and I can't figure out how wearing a mask for 15-20 minutes while in a store is really that bad but what other way would someone propose then?  I love the people pitching major fits about wearing a mask but offer no other solutions.  It's not hard to follow the science and follow the guidance for the greater good and not just yourself.

 

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20 minutes ago, Wmsptwx said:

Looking like 61,000 new cases 945 deaths

3 days in a row of 900+.  Wish we could say it's all because of the weekend lag but I don't think so.  It looks like we have reached the point where the increases in several states are outweighing the declines in other states.  

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13 minutes ago, Hoosier said:

3 days in a row of 900+.  Wish we could say it's all because of the weekend lag but I don't think so.  It looks like we have reached the point where the increases in several states are outweighing the declines in other states.  

I agree, three big states as well.

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16 minutes ago, Hoosier said:

3 days in a row of 900+.  Wish we could say it's all because of the weekend lag but I don't think so.  It looks like we have reached the point where the increases in several states are outweighing the declines in other states.  

The one silver lining that I see it's that the rate of rise in cases appears to be slowing down, only 4000 more than last week. It had been increasing by 10k+ every week. Testing volume has been pretty stable over the last week

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10 hours ago, Hoosier said:

Yeah, could very well get there around October at the rate we're going.  Was trying to not be so pessimistic but it's a real possibility.

If the schools are going to reopen, you gotta knock the cases way, way down.  Some countries overseas have been able to open schools and not have big problems so far.  Imagine trying to open school right now in Florida, Texas, Arizona with so much virus floating around.

Says who? New Gallup poll only shows that 33% of independent voters are concerned about this virus. Lol they probably shouldn't open but let's be honest, the vast majority don't care at this point

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2 hours ago, mattb65 said:

The one silver lining that I see it's that the rate of rise in cases appears to be slowing down, only 4000 more than last week. It had been increasing by 10k+ every week. Testing volume has been pretty stable over the last week

You might just have the same people getting tested over and over.

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4 hours ago, mattb65 said:

The one silver lining that I see it's that the rate of rise in cases appears to be slowing down, only 4000 more than last week. It had been increasing by 10k+ every week. Testing volume has been pretty stable over the last week

I think that someone brought up once we get so high it’ll be tough to get much higher due to testing limitations and such, think it was dan1195. Maybe once we get to 60 to 65,000 a day, we really can’t go much higher.

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Covid hospitalizations have been increasing in Indiana, though not at a dramatic rate and there is still plenty of bed availability.  Current hospitalizations are the highest they have been since the 3rd week of June.  It would largely be too early to see any impact from the 4th of July on the hospitalization numbers because of the typical time lag with this illness so hopefully there isn't a sharper rise on the way. 

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On 7/9/2020 at 2:17 PM, RyanDe680 said:

Oh man.... FL available ICU beds were at 1,250 earlier in the week, down to 800 now....

Texas available hospital bed were at 12,925 earlier in the week... now at 11,500

yikes

Texas avail beds down to 11,300.  Less than 975 ICU bed available....

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Could be headed for about 65k today.  

Not sure how high the daily number can go as we are going to max out test processing capability at some point.  There have already been reports of test results taking longer to come back now compared to a month or so ago. 

You could certainly make an argument that we actually have over 100k new cases per day right now since significant numbers of asymptomatic people wouldn't have a reason to get tested. 

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31 minutes ago, Hoosier said:

Could be headed for about 65k today.  

Not sure how high the daily number can go as we are going to max out test processing capability at some point.  There have already been reports of test results taking longer to come back now compared to a month or so ago. 

You could certainly make an argument that we actually have over 100k new cases per day right now since significant numbers of asymptomatic people wouldn't have a reason to get tested. 

I think we definitely have over 100k, models like the yyg estimate that we are probably at 4-5x the number reported right now. Back in March it was probably 10-12x. Current estimate is 250k-260k new cases per day in the US right now. We are very close to the estimated daily number of cases from the peak in the first wave. Thank God it is in younger people this time and that medical providers and treatments have improved.

The other problem aside from processing time is that once you start to see shortages in testing capacity, tests start to be rationed again to the high risk and hospitalized. Also the data becomes much less useful from a public health case identification/isolation/contact tracing perspective. We are fully back to mitigation only method to contain the outbreak in most places seeing fast rising cases.

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Obviously a lot of attention has been on Florida, Arizona, Texas and California, but Georgia is sneaking up as well... and now there is a bit of a battle between the GA gov and Atlanta mayor.

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39 minutes ago, Wmsptwx said:

71,000 new cases.

Pretty crazy to see the numbers this high. Today was also a huge testing day, 823k tests, over 100k more than last week so still a slight rise in % positive but some of the big jump in cases can be attributed to the number of tests today.

Also new today, Florida is finally reporting covid hospitalization numbers, their 7,000 are 3rd behind Texas which crossed 10k hospitalizations and California which is up to nearly 7,900.

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24 minutes ago, purduewx80 said:

IL ramping back up now, too. Numbers from these states that opened early should've been the first clue that this would happen.

https://www.nbcchicago.com/news/coronavirus/illinois-reports-highest-daily-number-of-coronavirus-cases-in-more-than-a-month/2303179/

The thing is it took a while for the increases to really take off in the states that reopened early.  It seems like there is some kind of tipping point of too much reopening, too many people getting careless with their behavior, or some combination.  It's part art and part science as to how much reopening you can get away with, and some states may be able to push it a little more than others. 

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6 minutes ago, Hoosier said:

The thing is it took a while for the increases to really take off in the states that reopened early.  It seems like there is some kind of tipping point of too much reopening, too many people getting careless with their behavior, or some combination.  It's part art and part science as to how much reopening you can get away with, and some states may be able to push it a little more than others. 

Hope so.

Tourists are back at Willis Tower today. Fortunately, everyone I saw in line was wearing a mask properly. 

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2 hours ago, purduewx80 said:

Hope so.

Tourists are back at Willis Tower today. Fortunately, everyone I saw in line was wearing a mask properly. 

I can tell you from my experience golfing a couple places west of Randall Rd. this week; covid is an afterthought. No masks inside the proshop, beverage cart lady handing out drinks with no mask. Was passing through Elburn after golf and stopped for a beer at an outdoor patio bar. No masks anywhere including the employees.

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Daily positive % crept up to 10% in Indiana.  Had been a long run of mid to upper single digit % on the dailies... like a couple months.

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I guess the hot summer months aren’t having any effects on the virus, as was believed back in spring. Or maybe it is, but in a bad way. At the rate it’s going, what’s it going to look like come November / December? Could be a lame holiday season for parties and family get togethers. Worse yet, influenza and other colder month viruses will be ramping back up in a few months. Maybe all the face mask wearing and cleanliness practices will mitigate the flu and other viruses.

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