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16 minutes ago, mattb65 said:

In about 8 weeks once everyone has a chance to get their vaccines. 

Hopefully but not everyone is going to take the vaccine . People think the vaccine is the mark of the beast lol.

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5 minutes ago, MJO812 said:

Hopefully but not everyone is going to take the vaccine . People think the vaccine is the mark of the beast lol.

Well I said when everyone had a chance to get it.  If people choose not to get it, they get to live with the consequences.  At that point it becomes nanny state to impose unreasonable restrictions assuming the activity in question is reasonably safe. 

I think certain activities like going on a cruise could reasonably require anyone boarding to be vaccinated or have a negative test.  Those things were like petri dishes for the virus when this thing started. 

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Was just reading a story about the expiring Indiana mask mandate and it sounds like the major grocery and big box stores around here are still going to require masks.

I was watching some sports highlights during the Tigers game. Are they really making HS athletes wear masks during games in Michigan? That is absolute pure insanity to mandate that. Lol I’m highly confident with my mild asthma I could not play basketball with a mask
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4 hours ago, mattb65 said:

In about 8 weeks once everyone has a chance to get their vaccines. 

This is the best compromise answer imo. People unhappy about it on both sides means it's probably a good decision.

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9 hours ago, dta1984 said:

 Exactly lol, you made my point.  See below what I quoted from Tim saying it's not possible.   

"And restricting your oxygen flow? Where on God’s green earth did you hear such a thing that you could babble about on an internet weather forum?"

My point here is that no one with a lick of intellect or common sense can simultaneously believe that the virus can pass unobstructed through the mask, yet the mask could significantly restrict your oxygen flow.

That’s exactly why I didn’t want to dignify the anti-mask troll’s comment with a response. Because you seized on one part of my response and you erroneously believe it nullifies my point.

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"The daily hospital admission rate based on a seven-day rolling average for younger age groups in Michigan is up over the same averages during the massive autumn surge. For instance, the Michigan Health & Hospital Association reports that among those aged 30-39, there were 26 daily admissions based on a seven-day average during the fall and winter surge, while today there are 43 admissions in the same age bracket.

The 40-49 age bracket is seeing a similar rise, with 58 being admitted daily compared to 33 during the autumn surge. For those 60 and older, hospitalizations have declined sharply as vaccinations have risen.

The Michigan Department of Health and Human Services says 35.2% of Michigan adults have received at least one vaccine dose and 21.5% have been fully vaccinated."

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26 minutes ago, TimB84 said:

My point here is that no one with a lick of intellect or common sense can simultaneously believe that the virus can pass unobstructed through the mask, yet the mask could significantly restrict your oxygen flow.

I've already said that masks help, but to the extent they help is debatable. I did not say they restrict oxygen flow, I posted an article that said exercising can.   Re direct your common sense preaching elsewhere to the poster that is saying such.

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13 minutes ago, dta1984 said:

I've already said that masks help, but to the extent they help is debatable. I did not say they restrict oxygen flow, I posted an article that said exercising can.   Re direct your common sense preaching elsewhere to the poster that is saying such.

I’m not necessarily saying you don’t have a lick of common sense. I believe I was addressing the “snow shovel in Barbados” guy, who to me doesn’t appear to have a lick of common sense, and you jumped in. And I’ll bet his source isn’t the WHO.

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37 minutes ago, StormfanaticInd said:

"The daily hospital admission rate based on a seven-day rolling average for younger age groups in Michigan is up over the same averages during the massive autumn surge. For instance, the Michigan Health & Hospital Association reports that among those aged 30-39, there were 26 daily admissions based on a seven-day average during the fall and winter surge, while today there are 43 admissions in the same age bracket.

The 40-49 age bracket is seeing a similar rise, with 58 being admitted daily compared to 33 during the autumn surge. For those 60 and older, hospitalizations have declined sharply as vaccinations have risen.

The Michigan Department of Health and Human Services says 35.2% of Michigan adults have received at least one vaccine dose and 21.5% have been fully vaccinated."

Am curious what the cases numbers for those age groups are vs the fall. i.e. Is it just simply because of a higher number of raw cases in that age group, or are a higher percentage of those age-specific cases actually in the hospital?

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Yeah I think people need to be careful with saying that these new variants are more dangerous for younger people.  I think they are just taking up a higher percentage of hospitalizations since older people are vaccinated and aren’t getting sick 

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5 minutes ago, dan11295 said:

Am curious what the cases numbers for those age groups are vs the fall. i.e. Is it just simply because of a higher number of raw cases in that age group, or are a higher percentage of those age-specific cases actually in the hospital?

"COVID-19 daily hospitalization data indicates that the large growth in hospitalizations in Michigan in March is occurring among younger age groups that have the lowest vaccination rates among the state population, according to inpatient data collected by the Michigan Health & Hospital Association (MHA).

From March 1 to March 23, hospitalizations increased by 633% for adults ages 30-39 and by 800% for adults ages 40-49. Hospitalization growth rates decline as the vaccination rates per age group increases, with hospitalizations increasing by just 37% for adults 80 or older, of which 44% of the population are fully vaccinated in the state. The correlation between high vaccination rates and lower hospitalization growth rates shows the effectiveness of the COVID-19 vaccine and how it protects from the risk of severe disease or hospitalization. The data also indicates that, although older adults still have a higher risk of hospitalizations, the percentage of hospitalized patients who are younger than 40 years old has doubled, showing that adults of any age are vulnerable to complications from the disease."

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10 hours ago, MJO812 said:

We can't be living in fear for years

Same

No one is living in fear.  This is what you crazies don't understand.  It's not about fear, it's about respect for others and for the fact that I'm sure the majority of those there aren't vaccinated and therefore spreading it.  This will not stop until that crap stops.  Common sense.

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3 minutes ago, StormfanaticInd said:

We are at a very crucial point for the young unvaccinated. It is literally a race now between vaccination and a new potentially deadly surge among our youth 

this may be true, but unfortunately you will have those that continue stupid behavior (not following guidelines, wearing a mask, etc) and don't see the point on getting a vaccine for 'the sniffles' and therefore go about their lives while not realizing that because of science, that they can be spreading it...

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5 minutes ago, StormfanaticInd said:

We are at a very crucial point for the young unvaccinated. It is literally a race now between vaccination and a new potentially deadly surge among our youth 

I doubt there will be a deadly surge for the youth as not many die from it under 50 years old. Could be lots of new cases/hospitalizations though. Today anyone 16 and above can get the vaccine in New York State. 

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5 minutes ago, BuffaloWeather said:

I doubt there will be a deadly surge for the youth as not many die from it under 50 years old. Could be lots of new cases/hospitalizations though. Today anyone 16 and above can get the vaccine in New York State. 

The Brazil variant has proven to be far more deadly among the youth in Brazil. I don't think it is a coincidence that we are seeing more youth get more sick. This surge should be brief but it could be potent if we are not careful 

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12 minutes ago, RyanDe680 said:

No one is living in fear.  This is what you crazies don't understand.  It's not about fear, it's about respect for others and for the fact that I'm sure the majority of those there aren't vaccinated and therefore spreading it.  This will not stop until that crap stops.  Common sense.

That's not going to stop anytime soon

I always wear my mask when I'm near someone but I still go out and enjoy life.

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Just now, MJO812 said:

So we should keep living in fear? I don't know about you but I have been hanging out with friends and going to indoor dining.

Are you vaccinated? Are they vaccinated? If not, that shows what kind of friend you are, willing to risk giving your friends a deadly virus because you won’t get vaccinated.

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3 minutes ago, MJO812 said:

That's not going to stop anytime soon

I always wear my mask when I'm near someone but I still go out and enjoy life.

Vaccines are literally going into arms right now at amazing rates. COVID will slow down a lot in the next few months. Because of the vaccine distribution, there's a huge advantage right now in preventing needless infections and deaths. 

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