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3 minutes ago, nwohweather said:

Yet so many on this board are about the closings. I’d venture to say many of the same people advocating this have been to bars and restaurants multiple times

I haven't dined inside a restaurant since March 16, 2020.  I even remember the date.  I honestly don't even miss it that much.  I've done plenty of takeout though.

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7 minutes ago, nwohweather said:


Yet so many on this board are about the closings. I’d venture to say many of the same people advocating this have been to bars and restaurants multiple times

I’ve dined out zero times in NYC and Chicago since the pandemic started, already had COVID, but have supported local businesses countless times by ordering take-out or delivery. 

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8 minutes ago, nwohweather said:


Yet so many on this board are about the closings. I’d venture to say many of the same people advocating this have been to bars and restaurants multiple times

I absolutely hate lockdowns but I believe its the right thing to do 

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2 hours ago, chances14 said:

Whitmer claims that bars and restaurants are an easy target for covid spread, yet the health departments own data doesn't support it. Hair salons were one of the last to open in the last shutdown claiming easy covid spread, yet they are allowed to be open this time around

I don't know anything about their health department, but restaurants and especially bars have been known as big spreaders.  Many clusters have been traced back to bars and restaurants.  In fact bars likely drove the summer wave.

After Arizona closed gyms over the summer, their hospitalizations decreased rapidly.  Much more rapidly than they did in Texas or Florida.  So there is some thought that gyms are significant contributors as well.

Once you pick up the infection, though, it largely propagates through home gatherings.

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11 minutes ago, Inverted_Trough said:

I don't know anything about their health department, but restaurants and especially bars have been known as big spreaders.  Many clusters have been traced back to bars and restaurants.  In fact bars likely drove the summer wave.

After Arizona closed gyms over the summer, their hospitalizations decreased rapidly.  Much more rapidly than they did in Texas or Florida.  So there is some thought that gyms are significant contributors as well.

Once you pick up the infection, though, it largely propagates through home gatherings.

Yeah I was just coming to post the same especially with respect to bars. I'd love to see this data that says otherwise. Let's be real bars breed carelessness, it shouldn't shock anyone that they are superspreaders especially now that everything is exclusively indoors. Restaurants are also an issue when they pack the places. 

19 minutes ago, purduewx80 said:

I’ve dined out zero times in NYC and Chicago since the pandemic started, already had COVID, but have supported local businesses countless times by ordering take-out or delivery. 

Dined out 2 times since things reopened in May both places were rural areas and during the summer, that said carry out and delivery has been the way to go for me.

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1 hour ago, Malacka11 said:

If any of you seriously believes that this is gonna stabilize after Thanksgiving, you gotta put down the crack pipe. Christmas and New Years are gonna be one hell of a combo. The way I see it -and I really don't want to be a doomer- at least a third of this country gives no fucks about Covid, at least from a "fear" stand point. The rampant infection that will occur within that segment of the population alone during the holidays well prevent this shit from stabilizing. 

Certainly the potential to get even worse with Christmas and New Years, but let's see what happens in the next month.  There may be enough people who are scared to leave home by then, especially in areas where the pandemic is really raging right now.

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I haven't dined inside a restaurant since March 16, 2020.  I even remember the date.  I honestly don't even miss it that much.  I've done plenty of takeout though.

I give you credit. One of my buddies in Ann Arbor was telling me he supports the closure of bars but goes to Grizzly Peak twice a week.

Haha it’s like people like him who frequent these establishments are helping spread it

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New cases look to be lower today than yesterday by a decent number. Not sure how much to read into that. If we (hopefully) have a muted case jump tomorrow could potentially be a sign of a start of leveling off of cases

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7 minutes ago, dan11295 said:

New cases look to be lower today than yesterday by a decent number. Not sure how much to read into that. If we (hopefully) have a muted case jump tomorrow could potentially be a sign of a start of leveling off of cases

I doubt that, most states are on the upswing in cases besides the Dakotas and maybe Wisconsin.  Also we are still waiting on a few more states to drop today, including part of california, kansas and nebraska

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40 minutes ago, dan11295 said:

New cases look to be lower today than yesterday by a decent number. Not sure how much to read into that. If we (hopefully) have a muted case jump tomorrow could potentially be a sign of a start of leveling off of cases

Positivity rates are up though.

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Covid Tracking had about 149k yesterday and 155k today.  That site typically runs lower than worldometers.  Worldometers had 162k yesterday and 156k and growing so far today.

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By using Covid Tracking Project to compare hospitalization and case metrics from a few different states. specifically PA, IL & NJ I think there is very strong evidence that we were catching ~25% of cases in April compared to now with some rough math.

In April IL had 2500 cases=5000 hospital. Now now its roughly 12,000 cases=5800 hospital

PA is equal to April Hospital peak now with ~4x as many cases. (1500 vs 6000)

NJ is equal to their April case peak ~4,000 cases, but 2,000 hospitalizations now vs 8000 in April

That would mean we would be reporting ~120,000 cases/day at April peak with today's testing. almost 40,000 of those in NY at peak.

This also implies the mortality rate hasn't dropped THAT much, maybe from ~2.0-2.5% CFR to 1.5-1.7% CFR based on today's testing

Also shows how much harder New York and New Jersey in particular were hit compared to any other state in the spring.

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Was inside my sister's house today for the first time in 8 months.  Spent 3 hours there and never took off the mask.  I actually wore 2 masks... a disposable and my other one that I wear regularly lol.  As I've mentioned before, she is not great with being careful.  She will wear a mask in public when she has to but frequently dines in at restaurants and occasionally goes to bars.

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4 minutes ago, BuffaloWeather said:

Has to go through FDA.  I'm not sure how long the process takes but it is only 2 weeks until December, so it may be a stretch. 

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7 hours ago, Hoosier said:

Has anyone been able to find any information about how much protection may occur after just the first dose of the Pfizer vaccine?  

From what I have read, it isn't enough protection, thus the booster after 3 weeks.  

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I imagine we might be coming close to testing capacity limits. Labs can only process so many tests. the Wisconsin dashboard shows approximate testing capacity and shows last week they were bumping against the limit, although it also shows capacity being expanded.

A quick google search also shows stories about wait times getting longer for testing in many states. 

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