Damage In Tolland Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 Yup.. that's what we like and want to see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OceanStWx Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 9 minutes ago, CoastalWx said: Any reports further north? It seemed like that area got smoked relative to other parts of the state. Anything further west in the Monads? The winds had to be above 70 at the height. DIT approved. Definitely DIT approved winds. To do that kind of damage to that many trees, I'm starting to think 70+ range. If you just go off the EF scale damage indicators, snapping those trunks would be pushing 80 or 90 mph. I know there was a Facebook post on the NHEC where someone claimed a friend hit 109 on their home anemometer in the Route 109 area. Now there could be any number of issues with that sensor, but it's in the ballpark. I feel like we would need elevation like the Front Range to get those triple digit wind accelerations, but really we had like a 70 knots LLJ, so it wouldn't take much acceleration to get into some big numbers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 2 minutes ago, OceanStWx said: Definitely DIT approved winds. To do that kind of damage to that many trees, I'm starting to think 70+ range. If you just go off the EF scale damage indicators, snapping those trunks would be pushing 80 or 90 mph. I know there was a Facebook post on the NHEC where someone claimed a friend hit 109 on their home anemometer in the Route 109 area. Now there could be any number of issues with that sensor, but it's in the ballpark. I feel like we would need elevation like the Front Range to get those triple digit wind accelerations, but really we had like a 70 knots LLJ, so it wouldn't take much acceleration to get into some big numbers. I mean who knows...you got that acceleration....precip falling into a drying layer etc. We gust. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OceanStWx Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 On 3/20/2017 at 0:06 PM, jbenedet said: I follow this logic, but how do we explain the superior performance of the mesos outside of 24 hr? Or was this a case of the mesos being right for the wrong reason(s) (excluding the convection trend inside 24 hrs) ? I still have suspicion that the early occlusion of the h500 low relative to the coastal surface reflection played a significant role in the modeling error. Is it possible that synoptic wave development via packing of the thickness gradient leading to positive feedback and further surface pressure falls was adversely affected/disrupted by the premature occlusion? This then lead to the best surface pressure falls being further west, in an area collocated with the deepest convection? It could be right for the wrong reasons. Convection certainly would tend to pump up heights and send it west. But the models also had a lot of convection in their output, so I suspect that was already baked in. But a stronger northern stream, that wasn't always modeled. And that combined with convection might have been enough to get the ultimate solution to come in west of consensus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OceanStWx Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 1 minute ago, CoastalWx said: I mean who knows...you got that acceleration....precip falling into a drying layer etc. We gust. It's about as good an example of downslope winds I've seen in our area. As far as reporting goes anyway. We have very little measured verification, except for the fact that MWN hit 138 I think. If they popped 138, 2000 feet lower certainly could have been pushing 100 mph. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eekuasepinniW Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 I could just talk about blowdowns all day. All day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OceanStWx Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 5 minutes ago, eekuasepinniW said: I could just talk about blowdowns all day. All day. The people are very excited about it. We are actually taking a closer look at the data to see if we can confirm downslope or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eekuasepinniW Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 1 minute ago, OceanStWx said: The people are very excited about it. We are actually taking a closer look at the data to see if we can confirm downslope or not. Nice. I don't think I mentioned it, but there was a dramatic picture of a flipped plane at the Moultonborough airport in the Laconia Daily Sun. Though, it was one of those little planes I could probably flip by hand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OceanStWx Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 2 minutes ago, eekuasepinniW said: Nice. I don't think I mentioned it, but there was a dramatic picture of a flipped plane at the Moultonborough airport in the Laconia Daily Sun. Though, it was one of those little planes I could probably flip by hand. To me this is definitely a case of: let's figure out what happened so we don't miss it again. Because we definitely missed it this time around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 5 minutes ago, OceanStWx said: To me this is definitely a case of: let's figure out what happened so we don't miss it again. Because we definitely missed it this time around. We need some more pictures. Would love some images to go with this discussion. Someone has to have a gallery somewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eekuasepinniW Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 2 minutes ago, powderfreak said: We need some more pictures. Would love some images to go with this discussion. Someone has to have a gallery somewhere. COMING RIGHT UP. From the NH Energy COOP facebook page. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OceanStWx Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 8 minutes ago, powderfreak said: We need some more pictures. Would love some images to go with this discussion. Someone has to have a gallery somewhere. NHEC has quite a bit on their Facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/New-Hampshire-Electric-Cooperative-192266577466499/?hc_ref=SEARCH&fref=nf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OceanStWx Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 2 minutes ago, eekuasepinniW said: COMING RIGHT UP. From the NH Energy COOP facebook page. Beat me to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wxeyeNH Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 Since we are bantering about the blizzard, here is a picture I took during the storm. I took the drone up today so I could accurately measure the distance to the trees behind that apple tree. It was 300 feet to my back deck. You can barely see some other trees behind the rock that were a bit further. Other than perhaps a brief snow squall this is the hardest synoptic snow I have seen. Even so I only got about a foot. I can't imagine what 4-6" per hour snows would be. I was curious about what the real visibility was. People say, it's a whiteout, zero vis. I have never seen visibility less than what it was during this storm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eekuasepinniW Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 21 minutes ago, wxeyeNH said: Since we are bantering about the blizzard, here is a picture I took during the storm. I took the drone up today so I could accurately measure the distance to the trees behind that apple tree. It was 300 feet to my back deck. You can barely see some other trees behind the rock that were a bit further. Other than perhaps a brief snow squall this is the hardest synoptic snow I have seen. Even so I only got about a foot. I can't imagine what 4-6" per hour snows would be. I was curious about what the real visibility was. People say, it's a whiteout, zero vis. I have never seen visibility less than what it was during this storm. You can also use Google Earth to get super precise distance measurements. That apple tree is 63' away from the closest corner of your deck. The rock by the pond is 181' away. My deck is 75,179' from yours. I'm envious of your yard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslot Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 19 minutes ago, eekuasepinniW said: You can also use Google Earth to get super precise distance measurements. That apple tree is 63' away from the closest corner of your deck. The rock by the pond is 181' away. My deck is 75,179' from yours. I'm envious of your yard. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wxeyeNH Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 1 hour ago, eekuasepinniW said: You can also use Google Earth to get super precise distance measurements. That apple tree is 63' away from the closest corner of your deck. The rock by the pond is 181' away. My deck is 75,179' from yours. I'm envious of your yard. Wow eek. I've used Google Earth for distances of miles but I've never used it on my property to measure within feet that is very cool feature. I'm going to have to use it for some of my further away Pines to get a good sense of exactly how far things are thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 Wow those pics are crazy...that's like SVR T-Storm damage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 2 hours ago, powderfreak said: Wow those pics are crazy...that's like SVR T-Storm damage. You should see some of the face book video. It's just massive blow downs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wxeyeNH Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 Boy, over performer this morning. Heavy snow started at 920am. Almost 3" and 24F up here. Still 1/2" mile vis. snow but was down to 1/4" mile stuff for an hour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HIPPYVALLEY Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 Snowing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 2-3" so far at Stowe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cold Miser Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 Snow and sleet mix and 40F right now in Manchester. I think a separate obs. thread is now warranted for this. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sugarloaf1989 Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 39F with a mix of snow and sleet, good thing winter weather is done with for this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 4 minutes ago, Sugarloaf1989 said: 39F with a mix of snow and sleet, good thing winter weather is done with for this year. Stay safe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HIPPYVALLEY Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 Moderate snow. Coating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 1 hour ago, CoastalWx said: You should see some of the face book video. It's just massive blow downs. Any vids of trees falling? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sugarloaf1989 Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 13 minutes ago, CoastalWx said: Stay safe. Thanks I'll try. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 Some flurries here in Lynn.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eekuasepinniW Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 23 minutes ago, dendrite said: Any vids of trees falling? Haven't found anything. That area of Moultonboro has roughly 7 year round residents I think. There is that kinda boring clip of a pine falling in Laconia on twitter though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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