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You guys have to be kidding right? I mean, you're in a weather forum. Maps are flying around all over the place in here all the time. Look at the map below, you might happen to notice that LI has a certain...... Let's call it geographic relationship with NYC proper. I'd venture a guess as to that being a big part of the reason. If we're going by more of a weather related metric, OKX is closer to my house than it is NYC, and that's the WFO for NYC.

 

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That little square about sums it up for me.....in all honesty I lived my whole life in the shadow of the big city but I have never considered myself a New Yorker; it has always been an alien place to me. Except for SI, which I maintain is in NYC because they didn't really wanna be part of Jersey. Fact is, until I married a foreigner who has to show all her visiting friends the city, I had only been to the city a handful of times. I do go there for medical checkups and when my kids were young we visited all the museums and zoos, but then we went to all of them from DC to Boston...

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You guys have to be kidding right? I mean, you're in a weather forum. Maps are flying around all over the place in here all the time. Look at the map below, you might happen to notice that LI has a certain...... Let's call it geographic relationship with NYC proper. I'd venture a guess as to that being a big part of the reason. If we're going by more of a weather related metric, OKX is closer to my house than it is NYC, and that's the WFO for NYC.

 

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http://metroeast_climate.ciesin.columbia.edu/images/mec_map.gif

heh there are people on LI who don't wanna even be in NY state let alone the city....

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While I do agree with EasternLI and the map above, if you really want to narrow it, you could ask yourself "can I reasonably commute to NYC daily for work?"

 

I've met many folks from my area here that commute to the city on a daily basis. For differing employment reasons. I can be in NYC in 1 hour if I wanted to, with reasonable traffic.

 

At the same time, I used to drive from here to Buffalo and back on a regular basis. I would always follow a caravan of cars starting midway through Pen. all the way in. For work I'm assuming, I'm talking 3+ Hrs of a trip. I never understood how anyone could do that on a daily basis.

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I've met many folks from my area here that commute to the city on a daily basis. For differing employment reasons. I can be in NYC in 1 hour if I wanted to, with reasonable traffic.

 

At the same time, I used to drive from here to Buffalo and back on a regular basis. I would always follow a caravan of cars starting midway through Pen. all the way in. For work I'm assuming, I'm talking 3+ Hrs of a trip. I never understood how anyone could do that on a daily basis.

I've seen people commute to Boston from NJ. I kid you not. Not daily, but weekly. A good job is tough to hold onto.

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That's true. I remember a push to make LI its own state. I also remember an attempt to add another county to LI, eastern Suffolk would have been Peconic county.

Well, the Fisherman magazine did start out as the Long Island, Metro edition....but many people still called it the LI Fisherman....but in Jersey it was just called the "effin" Fisherman, mostly because of the bogus fishing reports, which I used to help write.....

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People commute from Philadelphia to NYC. Even intra-city commutes can be terribly long, living in Queens my commute was an hour and a half each way, on a good day.

I'm a West Point Firefighter, and we have guys that come from Philly.. Talk about a commute.. Nearly 3 hours...

We also have a guy from Binghamton lol

Granted we work 48 straight shifts

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Lol I knew I'd stir something by opening up the commute debate. Binghamton to West Point doesn't sound reasonable to me. Yikes. And Wthrm, come on, train to NYC from Orient daily? I just looked at the LIRR schedule. Monday morning you would have to leave greenport at 5:30 AM, transfer at ronkonkoma and Jamaica to be in penn by 8:40. Then go to wherever you job might actually be.

I used to commute from Nassau to basking ridge NJ. And it was not reasonable. Lol

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Lol I knew I'd stir something by opening up the commute debate. Binghamton to West Point doesn't sound reasonable to me. Yikes. And Wthrm, come on, train to NYC from Orient daily? I just looked at the LIRR schedule. Monday morning you would have to leave greenport at 5:30 AM, transfer at ronkonkoma and Jamaica to be in penn by 8:40. Then go to wherever you job might actually be.

I used to commute from Nassau to basking ridge NJ. And it was not reasonable. Lol

I commuted to Jackson NJ from Woodbridge in the 80's and it nearly killed me.....school started at 7 15 am and I used to fall asleep coming home. Good thing winters were snowless in those days. We did have one storm that never hit back in 89 where they canceled school. After that I swore off long commutes. And teaching.

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Lol I knew I'd stir something by opening up the commute debate. Binghamton to West Point doesn't sound reasonable to me. Yikes. And Wthrm, come on, train to NYC from Orient daily? I just looked at the LIRR schedule. Monday morning you would have to leave greenport at 5:30 AM, transfer at ronkonkoma and Jamaica to be in penn by 8:40. Then go to wherever you job might actually be.

I used to commute from Nassau to basking ridge NJ. And it was not reasonable. Lol

AT&T huh!

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Terrible winter

Not bad though to have above normal snowfall in a terrible winter. I know most of it was from the 1 huge blizzard, but i'll take it any way i can get it. Also even if next week's storm doesn't work out, there will be more chances. The long range pattern looks pretty good moving into early March. I saw tonight's GFS has 2 snowstorms in the 1st week of March. I know individual threats can't be taken seriously that far out, but the point is the pattern will favor cold/stormy! Unlikely we avoid getting another snowstorm in late winter in a weakening El Nino. I'd bet plenty on an early march snowstorm!

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Not bad though to have above normal snowfall in a terrible winter though. I know most of it was from the 1 huge blizzard, but i'll take it any way i can get it. Also even if next week's storm doesn't work out, there will be more chances. The long range pattern looks pretty good moving into early March. I saw tonight's GFS has 2 snowstorms in the 1st week of March. I know individual threats can't be taken seriously that far out, but the point is the pattern will favor cold/stormy! Unlikely we avoid getting another snowstorm in late winter in a weakening El Nino. I'd bet plenty on an early march snowstorm!

March has a good chance of getting a snowstorm with the pattern shaping up

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Terrible winter

 

The 30 days of winter beginning January 23rd will go down among the greatest in NYC history.

 

Greatest daily snowfall on record

Below zero low temperature

More than 30" for 30 days

 

Maybe uncle has the stats for 30 day periods in NYC with over 30" and a below zero temperature.

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The 30 days of winter beginning January 23rd will go down among the greatest in NYC history.

Greatest daily snowfall on record

Below zero low temperature

More than 30" for 30 days

Maybe uncle has the stats for 30 day periods in NYC with over 30" and a below zero temperature.

So two events make it the greatest ever ? It's been awful and shows long range forecasting is a waste of time . All you kept hearing was wait until February Bla bla Bla , Back end winter garbage , throwing out useless analog years .

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Today definitely has that spring feel to it. I'm starting to think winter is over for the most part. There might be a thread the needle type storm over the next few weeks given this nino's ability to squeeze out the juice, but March is on the doorstep and the upcoming pattern doesn't look particularly anomalous.

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The 30 days of winter beginning January 23rd will go down among the greatest in NYC history.

 

Greatest daily snowfall on record

Below zero low temperature

More than 30" for 30 days

 

Maybe uncle has the stats for 30 day periods in NYC with over 30" and a below zero temperature.

Like most winters, it's boils down to a 30-40 day stretch where the goods are delivered.  The rest of the time is often so-so or bad.   We'll see for this year, many calls for a great ending, but so far it's been meh and the next week looks warm and wet

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