IsentropicLift Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sn0waddict Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 If only the srefs were the least bit reliable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superstorm93 Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnowGoose69 Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 Still feel this thing has a chance to be good and deliver 2-4 inches widespread...remember, the Euro runs dry on these things, so the fact its spitting out 1-2 inches in the general region is not bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IsentropicLift Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 New Snow Map from Uptonhttp://www.erh.noaa.gov/er/okx/stormtotalprecip.phpThis is more reasonable. 1-2 inches areawide Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RU848789 Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 New Snow Map from Upton http://www.erh.noaa.gov/er/okx/stormtotalprecip.php This is more reasonable. 1-2 inches areawide Interesting - if you go to their seasonal weather page, they still have the 4 am map up, which had more snowfall predicted; see below for the map and here's the link: http://www.weather.gov/okx/winter - wonder why that's not consistent...and it's also why I hate that they bury the snowfall map 2-3 levels deep. The 4 am map is found at the link I provided on the main page, while the current, 4 pm map is found under "forecasts" dropdown on the main page and in the "storm total forecasts" link at the bottom of the dropdown. Whenever they have a snowfall map, I think they ought to have a link to it from the homepage on the main CWA map, like they used to - same for Mt. Holly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheManWithNoFace Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 Numbers, I totally agree. I think the snowfall map is what most people want. The TV channels know this, it's why they tease to it throughout the newscast. Why does the NWS make this product so hard to find? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WintersGrasp Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 18z NAM is a quick shot of 1" maybe 2". Another 15 or 20 of these and we might reach our average snowfall for the season ! GFS is pretty much nothing for any of us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYY_2 Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 Numbers, I totally agree. I think the snowfall map is what most people want. The TV channels know this, it's why they tease to it throughout the newscast. Why does the NWS make this product so hard to find? i agree, i just type in "NWS nyc snow map" on google and its always the first link Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RU848789 Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 Numbers, I totally agree. I think the snowfall map is what most people want. The TV channels know this, it's why they tease to it throughout the newscast. Why does the NWS make this product so hard to find? Thanks - I actually sent the Mt. Holly webmaster an email complaining about this in the beginning of the winter and his main response was that they were coming out with a winter weather page. That's great, but one still has to go 2-3 clicks to find the map, as opposed to having a link to the map prominently displayed right on the homepage CWA map, which is the main entry point for most users, I assume. Both offices have missed badly on simplicity with this - and don't get me going on the stupid icon approach for all the key info/pages on the homepages - please, just give me one page with all the links (and what they contain, with nested links that appear when hovering over them) and have it on the homepage. I don't understand making people click multiple times for things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheManWithNoFace Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 With the rise in social media allowing unknowns without a media job to produce forecasts and gain a following, you'd think they would be working hard to make it easy to be relevant and useful. Great forecasters, but perhaps they are saddled with gubbermint mindset when it comes to efficiency. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfie09 Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 Mount holly NO ADJUSTMENTS HAVE BEEN MADE TO THE CURRENT SNOWFALL FORECAST...WHICH CALLS FOR 2-4 INCHES GENERALLY NORTHWEST OF THE I-95 CORRIDOR...TAPERING DOWN TO LESS THAN 1 INCH OVER THE DELMARVA. HOWEVER...BOTH THE NAM AND GFS 12Z MODEL RUNS TRENDED 2M TEMPERATURES COLDER FOR WED NT AND THU AM WHICH IS WHEN THE BULK OF THE SNOWFALL WILL OCCUR...THUS AMOUNTS COULD BE HIGHER FURTHER TO THE SOUTH. AMOUNTS COULD ALSO BE HIGHER OVER COASTAL NORTHEAST NJ DUE TO PRECIP ENHANCEMENT FROM ONSHORE FLOW...AS INDICATED BY THE 12Z NAM. SNOWFALL IS EXPECTED TO TAPER OFF PRIOR TO THE MORNING RUSH HOUR ON THURSDAY...BUT WITH GENERALLY SUB-FREEZING TEMPERATURES...EXPECT ICY SPOTS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PB GFI Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 SREF .10 -.25 now . In line with most other guidance . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian5671 Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 0z NAM is pretty paltry for QPF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WintersGrasp Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 Looks like the 00z NAM dumps 3-5 flakes on many areas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USCG RS Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 Same pattern, plenty of energy but without any blocking (I know a bit different with this clipper) or anything to slow the flow, we can't get any development. United States Coast Guard Rescue Swimmer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormlover74 Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 How can it be so hard to time a clipper 48 hours out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PB GFI Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 0z NAM is pretty paltry for QPF The NAM is just delayed until Thursday with the clipper 1 to 2 from the city NE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PB GFI Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 0z NAM is pretty paltry for QPF The best lift is right over your house . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Pamela Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 The NAM is just delayed until Thursday with the clipper 1 to 2 from the city NE That's good...will allow the CWA to double their year to date totals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian5671 Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 The best lift is right over your house . I'll still take the under based on seasonal trends....it's much worse than last night's runs which had a nice deformation band offshore...no sign of that tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeatherFox Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 How can it be so hard to time a clipper 48 hours out? Agree, but we also forecasting track and intensity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USCG RS Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 A friend and I were talking earlier, and I tend to agree with him. The lead wave seems to be moving it's tail and is likewise squashed by the confluence. It's outpacing the vort max as well. As such, it's leaving a plethora of energy behind, which may allow for the second wave to develop. The Nam may be catching onto this. United States Coast Guard Rescue Swimmer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PB GFI Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 I'll still take the under based on seasonal trends....it's much worse than last night's runs which had a nice deformation band offshore...no sign of that tonight. It`s an inch or 2 . No one bought the 18z run last night seriously . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PB GFI Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 A friend and I were talking earlier, and I tend to agree with him. The lead wave seems to be moving it's tail and is likewise squashed by the confluence. It's outpacing the vort max as well. As such, it's leaving a plethora of energy behind, which may allow for the second wave to develop. The Nam may be catching onto this. United States Coast Guard Rescue Swimmer That`s what the GFS kept doing . It was deepening the SW on the polar front and the flattening the heights for the arctic wave behind it so it could not deepen . The spacing may be better on the NAM but either way I think most would agree it`s moisture starved and 1 to 2 is prob the right call . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwcMan Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 EURO south...gives DC/Balt a nice little event. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BxWeatherwatcher Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 current radar trends are indicating a more northern track for this clipper and the band of snow with it,granted it now has to cross the apps but i do see more potential with this little system and maybe some enhancement once it hits the coast.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rossi Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 12Z NAM looks about the same 1 to 2 from North to South Rossi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnowGoose69 Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 Don't give up on this...I still think this event may be a pleasant surprise here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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