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December 2014 General Discussion


snowlover2

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IT was supposed to replace the OP GFS by now, right?

Maybe thats it.

 

I just had a thought. Remember the talk was that this parallel version would correct the GFS's cool bias? This warmup has been delayed and delayed and now muted tremendously from what it once was. I wonder if this will be the NEW GFS bias now? At least until we break out of the pattern of below normal temps that has dominated the last year and a half.

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http://www.eas.slu.edu/CIPS/SLR/zones/iwx.GIF

 

Pretty close, actually. Most of your snows will be around 10-12:1, though.

 

Thanks for that. It was a pretty good educated guess. Synoptic systems in this area usually do produce 10 or 11:1 ratios. However, we get a surprising amount of LES that makes it down here that I figured would skew the ratios a little higher. The map depicts the higher ratios nearer to the lake nicely.

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1.8" overnight.  made it pretty out.  snow depth is 18-20" in the yard.  actually very much looking forward to mid 30's this weekend.  will be nice to work in the garage with the door up for a change.  the snow will return soon enough.  was reading what  a met at MQT had to say about the mild Winter forecasted and he said he still believes the belts that see 200" a season would still  see their normal snow.

Lots of Winter to be had by all still.

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As far as the upcoming warmth, I'll guess there will be 2 or 3 days in the 50s in LAF through the 15th (average high here is upper 30s during that timeframe).  Airmass gets fairly warm aloft but degree of mixing is in question so best to not go overboard.

Also, with the southerly flow in place, there could be potential for an advection stratus deck to develop (limiting solar insolation further).

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1.8" overnight.  made it pretty out.  snow depth is 18-20" in the yard.  actually very much looking forward to mid 30's this weekend.  will be nice to work in the garage with the door up for a change.  the snow will return soon enough.  was reading what  a met at MQT had to say about the mild Winter forecasted and he said he still believes the belts that see 200" a season would still  see their normal snow.

Lots of Winter to be had by all still.

curious...who forecasted a mild winter up there?

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Happy anniversary lol! The first major snowstorm of last years historic winter here was Dec 14th, but December 8th is THE night it started. A snowfall of 0.9" fell, and the snow depth the morning of December 9th was 1"...so after a depth of 0 on December 8th, DTW would not see a depth of 0 again until March 29th! The depth got patchy Christmas week but other than that the brutal winter was just beginning. :mapsnow::wub:

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curious...who forecasted a mild winter up there?

this one was being referenced in the conversation, but numerous ones mirror this.

 

this was some of the conversation:

"It is still a little early to tell, but it appears the pattern change could last through the end of December."

" there are still plenty of mixed signals on that one, but the latest trends are pointing toward a better chance of above average temps until Christmas, then temps around average into mid-January. After that, it becomes quite difficult as regional patterns are rather unpredictable beyond a month."

 

"There is nothing to indicate that the snowfall for the lake effect snow belts will be any different than usual this winter. Lake Superior usually remains mostly open through the winter. Last winter's freeze was much out of the ordinary."

 

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You know its December when....even the most boring pattern possible is accompanied by near constant overcast. (Powerball must be loving this weather /sarcasm :lol:).

 

DTW picked up the first measurable precip of the month, 0.14" of rain last night. I picked up 0.17". Perhaps a few flurries tonight. Temps still below normal for the month.

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