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Severe weather: 5/10-5/12 Plains/Midwest


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That structure is gorgeous, but I don't think the base is touching the ground…you can see a narrow silhouette of lighter gray behind the treeline.

Tornado could very well be on the ground without condensation extending to the ground. Regardless it's a very large and potentially dangerous meso

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The storms over southern Kansas have been interesting to watch. When one 'wraps up', it surges SE, produces a funnel cloud, then weakens and turns back NE. 

 

I bet people got some great structure shots today.

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Once again, the Northern target will be at the mercy of the first round of convection tomorrow. If convection moves out quickly or just doesn't go at all, then anywhere along and south of I-80 in W IA and E NE has the potential to be significant. SE NE has CAPE values AOA 3000 J/Kg and in an environment that is favorable for rotating storms but shear vectors aren't ideal. (Nothing ever is, right?) Good luck to everyone out tomorrow.

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Playing the DL tomorrow in NW OK. I know LCLs will probably be too high during the daylight hours, but hoping for some nice structure.

 

Same boat here. Looks like the 0Z GFS does initiate discrete convection by 0Z in Western Oklahoma and Kansas. I think we could have some fun tomorrow. FYI sunset in Woodward is at 8:34 PM today so we should continue to have light until at least 9 PM (02Z). Looking forward to it!

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The 00z SPC WRF goes to town with a cell in Iowa tomorrow afternoon but doesn't necessarily scream outbreak there.

 

Meanwhile it lights up KS pretty good (assuming the storms don't get undercut/LCL heights cooperate).

 

It appears to develop an MCS in southern NE around 09-10z.

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NSSL WRF initiates an absolute monster supercell in NE in the late afternoon, UH is completely maxed out, and then KS looks like it gets going too, although I'd be concerned about undercutting in that case.

 

I'm not too confident on this setup as a whole, sure the parameters are potentially very volatile, but there are a number of caveats with the synoptic setup/resultant mesoscale implications that make this much less of a sure bet. If we do end up with a full blown outbreak tomorrow, as suggested by the most recent D2 outlook, I'll be rather surprised.

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00Z SPC 4KM WRF fires a few 'discrete' cells in IL tomorrow. Wind fields aren't as impressive as they are closer to the SFC cyclone but at least they veer all the way and storm mode doesn't appear to be in question.

 

Just some food for thought.

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SPC AC 110547

DAY 1 CONVECTIVE OUTLOOK

NWS STORM PREDICTION CENTER NORMAN OK

1247 AM CDT SUN MAY 11 2014

VALID 111200Z - 121200Z

...THERE IS A MDT RISK OF SVR TSTMS ACROSS PARTS OF THE CENTRAL

PLAINS AND MID-MS VALLEY...

...THERE IS A SLGT RISK OF SVR TSTMS SURROUNDING THE MDT RISK FROM

THE SRN HIGH PLAINS TO THE OH VALLEY...

...SUMMARY...

SEVERE THUNDERSTORMS ARE EXPECTED TO DEVELOP ACROSS PORTIONS OF THE

CENTRAL PLAINS TO THE OHIO VALLEY. GREATEST CONCENTRATION OF SEVERE

SHOULD EXTEND FROM NORTHERN KANSAS INTO SOUTHEASTERN NEBRASKA AND

MUCH OF IOWA. VERY LARGE HAIL AND TORNADOES ARE POSSIBLE.

...CENTRAL PLAINS/MID-MS VALLEY...

WEAK HEIGHT RISES ARE EXPECTED TO DOMINATE MUCH OF THE MID-WEST AND

OH VALLEY DURING THE DAY1 PERIOD AS PRIMARY TROUGH DIGS INTO THE

4-CORNERS REGION. AS A RESULT...LOW LEVEL WARM ADVECTION WILL

LIKELY PROVE INSTRUMENTAL IN EARLY-DAY CONVECTION ACROSS THE CNTRL

PLAINS/MID-MS VALLEY. LATEST THINKING IS ELEVATED CONVECTION SHOULD

BE ONGOING AT SUNRISE ACROSS ERN NEBRASKA ALONG NOSE OF LLJ. THIS

ACTIVITY SHOULD PROPAGATE ALONG WARM FRONT ACROSS IA DURING THE DAY

INTO NRN IL BY AFTERNOON WHEN BOUNDARY LAYER HEATING SHOULD

CONTRIBUTE TO PRE-STORM BUOYANCY. IT/S NOT ENTIRELY CLEAR HOW

EARLY-DAY CONVECTION WILL UNFOLD AS VERTICAL SHEAR PROFILES STRONGLY

FAVOR SUPERCELL STRUCTURES. IF AN MCS EVOLVES FROM SUNRISE

CONVECTION THEN STORM MODE WILL FAVOR MORE WIND/HAIL ACROSS IA

DURING THE DAY. HOWEVER...IF DISCRETE SUPERCELLS EVOLVE THEN

TORNADO THREAT WILL BE ENHANCED ALONG THE WARM FRONT AS FORECAST

SOUNDINGS STRONGLY SUPPORT ORGANIZED DEEP ROTATING UPDRAFTS AND

SUPERCELLS. GIVEN THE PROXIMITY OF HIGHER BOUNDARY LAYER

MOISTURE...JUST SOUTH OF I-70 ACROSS MO ATTM...IT APPEARS LEGITIMATE

MID 60S SFC DEW POINTS WILL ADVANCE INTO IA AHEAD OF CONVECTION

LATER TODAY.

IN THE WAKE OF THIS EARLY TSTM ACTIVITY...MUCH OF THE PLAINS WILL

REMAIN CONVECTIVE-FREE THROUGH MID AFTERNOON. STRONG CAPPING ACROSS

KS/OK/TX SHOULD PREVENT THUNDERSTORM DEVELOPMENT PRIOR TO 21Z.

HOWEVER...FRONTAL CONVERGENCE SHOULD AID CONVECTIVE DEVELOPMENT

ACROSS NEBRASKA/KS BY 21Z. WITH SFC TEMPERATURES WARMING TO NEAR 90

ACROSS KS THIS ACTIVITY WILL INITIALLY BE HIGH BASED.

HOWEVER...WARM SECTOR ACROSS NEBRASKA SHOULD HAVE TEMPERATURES RISE

ONLY INTO THE 80S AND CLOUD BASES SHOULD REFLECT A MORE MOIST

ENVIRONMENT. FOR THIS REASON IT APPEARS THE GREATEST RISK FOR

TORNADOES IS ACROSS NEBRASKA/IA...ESPECIALLY IF DISCRETE SUPERCELLS

CAN EMERGE WITHIN AN AIRMASS THAT SHOULD BE CHARACTERIZED BY SBCAPE

IN EXCESS OF 3000 J/KG. MID-LEVEL FLOW IN EXCESS OF 50KT SHOULD

EASILY VENT/SHEAR DEVELOPING UPDRAFTS POTENTIALLY SUPPORTING

LONG-LIVED SUPERCELLS. IN ADDITION TO VERY LARGE HAIL A FEW STRONG

TORNADOES COULD FORM IF SUPERCELLS CAN ADVANCE INTO MOIST WARM

SECTOR AHEAD OF COLD FRONT.

STORM MERGERS/FRONTAL ASCENT SHOULD ENCOURAGE AN EXPANDING CORRIDOR

OF STRONG/SEVERE THUNDERSTORMS TO ADVANCE TOWARD IA/NWRN MO BY

DAYBREAK MONDAY MORNING.

...SOUTHERN PLAINS...

STRONG HEATING IS EXPECTED ACROSS THE HIGH PLAINS OF OK/TX SUNDAY.

TEMPERATURES SHOULD WARM INTO THE LOWER 90S ALONG THE

DRYLINE...SUFFICIENT FOR PARCELS TO REACH THEIR CONVECTIVE

TEMPERATURE BY 22-23Z. WHILE LATEST NAM GUIDANCE...AND A FEW OTHER

HIGH-RES MODELS...DO NOT DEVELOP MUCH CONVECTION ALONG THE DRYLINE

IT WOULD APPEAR AT LEAST ISOLATED SUPERCELLS SHOULD FORM. VERY

LARGE HAIL AND GUSTY WINDS ARE THE GREATEST THREATS WITH THIS

RELATIVELY HIGH-BASED ACTIVITY.

..DARROW/DEAN.. 05/11/2014

CLICK TO GET WUUS01 PTSDY1 PRODUCT

NOTE: THE NEXT DAY 1 OUTLOOK IS SCHEDULED BY 1300Z

CURRENT UTC TIME: 0552Z (12:52AM), RELOAD THIS PAGE TO UPDATE THE TIME

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Watch the mdt risk zone expand south into OK, and develop a high risk core from se Nebraska to northwest OK. Could then go PDS in a zone west of Wichita KS to Guthrie OK. Dry line looks very potent but will remain in that general area to about 21z then supercells will fire near OK-KS border.

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Watch the mdt risk zone expand south into OK, and develop a high risk core from se Nebraska to northwest OK. Could then go PDS in a zone west of Wichita KS to Guthrie OK. Dry line looks very potent but will remain in that general area to about 21z then supercells will fire near OK-KS border.

 

Where did you get the idea that would be even remotely close to actually happening? Personally I'm planning on sitting today out unless it becomes evident the dryline will fire something interesting in OK or perhaps on the OK/KS border. I give that about a 1 in 4 chance right now. 

 

On another note, what's up with the rotating wall cloud with the supercell in Southeast Kansas at 1 AM? That certainly concerns me regarding the chance of morning tornadic convection a bit later as mentioned in the SWODY1. 

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