dryslot Posted June 25, 2014 Share Posted June 25, 2014 A co-worker just had his fairly new chainsaw lose compression; estimated bill is $250+, if it is even worht fixing. He used 93 octane gas and put in an additive (not asure which one), and never mixed more than a gallon at a time so storage time was lowered. He's heading for the AUG airport to seek ethanol-free avgas. lol, Sounds like he used the additive but forgot the 2 stroke oil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslot Posted June 25, 2014 Share Posted June 25, 2014 Sea foam is another product that will clean out your fuel system............. http://seafoamsales.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KartAnimal29 Posted June 25, 2014 Share Posted June 25, 2014 Me and a buddy did this same test in the garage on Ethonal Shield years back and came up with the same results.You can tell what other brands that they are using from the shape of the bottles. Ever since I started to use it I have had 0 carb problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amarshall Posted June 25, 2014 Share Posted June 25, 2014 I tried Sea foam and some other snake oil they were selling at Autozone last night. Neither worked. It got a tiny bit better. Would run for 10 seconds before shutting off. Just got back from Home Depot with two bottles of Mechanic in a bottle and 1 bottle of Ethanol shield. I have an old Ariens where the carb is in the back of the engine. It's not an easy drop out. I really just want to spray the carb out with carb cleaner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslot Posted June 25, 2014 Share Posted June 25, 2014 I tried Sea foam and some other snake oil they were selling at Autozone last night. Neither worked. It got a tiny bit better. Would run for 10 seconds before shutting off. Just got back from Home Depot with two bottles of Mechanic in a bottle and 1 bottle of Ethanol shield. I have an old Ariens where the carb is in the back of the engine. It's not an easy drop out. I really just want to spray the carb out with carb cleaner Sea foam is NOT going to be an instant fix, If the jets are clogged carb cleaner is useless unless you can get to the back of the jets to spray them, We tear carbs down all the time up here and it sounds like yours is going to have to come out, We have to use paper clips or a needle to pass thru the back of the jet to clean it, In most instances the price of jets are cheap so i usually just replace them but you will need a carb kit with all the seats and gaskets which will have them in it if you want to tackle it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslot Posted June 25, 2014 Share Posted June 25, 2014 If you have to run a carb on choke its a clogged pilot jet as that is what runs the idle circuit in a carb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amarshall Posted June 25, 2014 Share Posted June 25, 2014 Sea foam is NOT going to be an instant fix, If the jets are clogged carb cleaner is useless unless you can get to the back of the jets to spray them, We tear carbs down all the time up here and it sounds like yours is going to have to come out, We have to use paper clips or a needle to pass thru the back of the jet to clean it, In most instances the price of jets are cheap so i usually just replace them but you will need a carb kit with all the seats and gaskets which will have them in it if you want to tackle it Grrr. It's a 1979 5 hp Tecumseh. The carb is on the back of the engine unaccessible due to the deck. I need to breakdown half of the engine to get it off. Grrr. I looked online and I can't even find a carb kit for my model mower its s old. Just got off the phone with Jacks Small Engines. They don't even make a rebuild kit anymore for mine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWR Posted June 25, 2014 Share Posted June 25, 2014 Grrr. It's a 1979 5 hp Tecumseh. The carb is on the back of the engine unaccessible due to the deck. I need to breakdown half of the engine to get it off. Grrr. I looked online and I can't even find a carb kit for my model mower its s old. Try this.... http://www.partstree.com/parts/?lc=ariens Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amarshall Posted June 25, 2014 Share Posted June 25, 2014 Try this.... http://www.partstree.com/parts/?lc=ariens Just called them too. I'm S out of luck. I will tear down the mower and clean the jet with a paper clip. If that doesn't work I might have to buck up the $100 and bring it to the shop. See what they can do. If not Toro turfmaster 30" will be in my future. LOL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslot Posted June 25, 2014 Share Posted June 25, 2014 Grrr. It's a 1979 5 hp Tecumseh. The carb is on the back of the engine unaccessible due to the deck. I need to breakdown half of the engine to get it off. Grrr. I looked online and I can't even find a carb kit for my model mower its s old. Just got off the phone with Jacks Small Engines. They don't even make a rebuild kit anymore for mine. If you know the carb model you may be able to find it on amazon or i use repair clinic, They are good for a lot of older appliance and engine parts............... http://www.amazon.com/s/?ie=UTF8&keywords=tecumseh+carburetor+kit&tag=googhydr-20&index=aps&hvadid=35087611524&hvpos=1t1&hvexid=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=12888413924216986935&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=b&hvdev=c&ref=pd_sl_1m166yekq3_b http://www.repairclinic.com/Shop-For-Parts/b329c102/Tecumseh-Carburetor-Parts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amarshall Posted June 25, 2014 Share Posted June 25, 2014 If you know the carb model you may be able to find it on amazon or i use repair clinic, They are good for a lot of older appliance and engine parts............... http://www.amazon.com/s/?ie=UTF8&keywords=tecumseh+carburetor+kit&tag=googhydr-20&index=aps&hvadid=35087611524&hvpos=1t1&hvexid=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=12888413924216986935&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=b&hvdev=c&ref=pd_sl_1m166yekq3_b http://www.repairclinic.com/Shop-For-Parts/b329c102/Tecumseh-Carburetor-Parts Carb is 632524. I've searched them all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslot Posted June 25, 2014 Share Posted June 25, 2014 Carb is 632524. I've searched them all. http://www.shankslawn.com/OemParts?aribrand=AYP#%2fTecumseh_Power_Company%2fTEC-632524%2c_1418_Mfg._No.%2c_632524-TEC%2fCarburetor%2fTEC-632524%2fCA021632524-CA This one on ebay has your carb number as well http://www.ebay.in/itm/GENUINE-TECUMSEH-CARBURETOR-NEEDLE-SEAT-KIT-631021B-/120682872120 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amarshall Posted June 25, 2014 Share Posted June 25, 2014 http://www.shankslawn.com/OemParts?aribrand=AYP#%2fTecumseh_Power_Company%2fTEC-632524%2c_1418_Mfg._No.%2c_632524-TEC%2fCarburetor%2fTEC-632524%2fCA021632524-CA This one on ebay has your carb number as well http://www.ebay.in/itm/GENUINE-TECUMSEH-CARBURETOR-NEEDLE-SEAT-KIT-631021B-/120682872120 Just bought that one off ebay. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslot Posted June 25, 2014 Share Posted June 25, 2014 Just bought that one off ebay. Thanks No prob, That is a pretty basic carb, These kits usually fit numerous models but most would not know this unless your in the biz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tamarack Posted June 25, 2014 Share Posted June 25, 2014 lol, Sounds like he used the additive but forgot the 2 stroke oil Used the Husky mixing oil as recommended, just mixed a gallon at a time. When I ruined the piston on my older Husky, it was from using an "all-purpose" 2-cycle oil. $120 lesson, plus the saw died about 10 yr later, at a far too young age considering it was only used for working up firewood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslot Posted June 25, 2014 Share Posted June 25, 2014 Used the Husky mixing oil as recommended, just mixed a gallon at a time. When I ruined the piston on my older Husky, it was from using an "all-purpose" 2-cycle oil. $120 lesson, plus the saw died about 10 yr later, at a far too young age considering it was only used for working up firewood. Its amazing that these engines hold together with the high rev rates that they can turn, Does not take much for something to let go and cause a catastrophic failure, 2 strokes will only get so many hours before they need to be rebuilt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KartAnimal29 Posted June 25, 2014 Share Posted June 25, 2014 Used the Husky mixing oil as recommended, just mixed a gallon at a time. When I ruined the piston on my older Husky, it was from using an "all-purpose" 2-cycle oil. $120 lesson, plus the saw died about 10 yr later, at a far too young age considering it was only used for working up firewood. All of my 2 stroke stuff get's mixed around 30:1 or 40:1 , depend on how much gas I have in the jug. I'd rather keep putting plugs in them then go out and buy a new trimmer or saw that can cost up to 500 bucks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KartAnimal29 Posted June 25, 2014 Share Posted June 25, 2014 If you have to run a carb on choke its a clogged pilot jet as that is what runs the idle circuit in a carb Which would mean it has to come off and be taken apart. A good thing to keep in mind would to rinse the tank out once in a while. I used my trimmers and blower 4 days a week and I clean them out at the end of the week. It doesn't take much in dirt or sand to clog a carb up. Also take the air hose to the air filter often Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslot Posted June 25, 2014 Share Posted June 25, 2014 Which would mean it has to come off and be taken apart. A good thing to keep in mind would to rinse the tank out once in a while. I used my trimmers and blower 4 days a week and I clean them out at the end of the week. It doesn't take much in dirt or sand to clog a carb up. Also take the air hose to the air filter often Yes, The carb has to come apart to unclog the jets, Inline filters do a good job of trapping crap if its possible to use one, Just a particle spec can clog the jet, But yes, Cleaning the tank periodically is good practice as well as the air filter, I have a 1989 JD 185 hydro tractor that runs year round cutting grass and blowing snow, It gets an oil & filter change every fall along with a new air filter, Its inexpensive maintenance to prevent bigger problems later on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslot Posted June 25, 2014 Share Posted June 25, 2014 All of my 2 stroke stuff get's mixed around 30:1 or 40:1 , depend on how much gas I have in the jug. I'd rather keep putting plugs in them then go out and buy a new trimmer or saw that can cost up to 500 bucks Better off to rich then to lean in all cases Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amarshall Posted June 27, 2014 Share Posted June 27, 2014 Tried Mechanic in a bottle. Fail. Carb comes off tomorrow. Youtube and an iPad have to be putting a dent in lawnmower repair businesses. I've forgotten everything I learned in small engine class in high school but youtube brings it right back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslot Posted June 27, 2014 Share Posted June 27, 2014 Tried Mechanic in a bottle. Fail. Carb comes off tomorrow. Youtube and an iPad have to be putting a dent in lawnmower repair businesses. I've forgotten everything I learned in small engine class in high school but youtube brings it right back. Those are great resources for step by step instructions, The wors't part will be getting to the carb on your mower, The carb itself is pretty basic on that model Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted June 27, 2014 Share Posted June 27, 2014 Ginx, the algicide did the trick Perfect pool attm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moneypitmike Posted June 27, 2014 Share Posted June 27, 2014 Ginx, the algicide did the trick Perfect pool attm Any suggestions for frogs? ridiculous how many little ones we have. What a racket at night. My wife thinks that running the aquabot thing every day will kill it in one season. I would think they're more durable than that. Any experience/thoughts on that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted June 27, 2014 Share Posted June 27, 2014 Ginx, the algicide did the trick Perfect pool attm nice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted June 27, 2014 Share Posted June 27, 2014 Any suggestions for frogs? ridiculous how many little ones we have. What a racket at night. My wife thinks that running the aquabot thing every day will kill it in one season. I would think they're more durable than that. Any experience/thoughts on that? Great largemouth bait. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslot Posted June 27, 2014 Share Posted June 27, 2014 Great largemouth bait. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tamarack Posted June 27, 2014 Share Posted June 27, 2014 Great largemouth bait. Peepers are kinda small, though. Maybe reduce the chlorine and add a couple (legally caught) bass, and combine pest reduction with aquaculture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslot Posted June 27, 2014 Share Posted June 27, 2014 Any suggestions for frogs? ridiculous how many little ones we have. What a racket at night. My wife thinks that running the aquabot thing every day will kill it in one season. I would think they're more durable than that. Any experience/thoughts on that? They make a great french dish, Frog legs, They taste like chicken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whineminster Posted June 27, 2014 Share Posted June 27, 2014 so is the sta-bil "storage" orange colored fuel stabilizer is not sufficient for ethanol treatment? I thought it was....it's all I've been using. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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