CoastalWx Posted July 11, 2013 Share Posted July 11, 2013 That cell was tiny though so I almost can't even imagine RFD winds with that, but I suppose so. These things are pretty fascinating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tropopause_Fold Posted July 11, 2013 Share Posted July 11, 2013 just a windy day at KTOL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT Rain Posted July 11, 2013 Author Share Posted July 11, 2013 The storm on radar had no scans that supported strong damaging winds of 80 mph. It wasn't a strong core that collapsed. I don't understand their logic, but me and all the other folks that saw it are dumb and don't know what we saw Kevin you need to relax. It's certainly possible that there was a funnel cloud and on the backside there was an area of strong 50-60 knot rear flank downdraft winds that knocked down trees along a given path. To be honest... based on radar, the environment, video, and pictures I've seen of the damage that makes the most sense. Still pretty cool you saw a funnel cloud. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bostonseminole Posted July 11, 2013 Share Posted July 11, 2013 That sucks Kevin , I was cheering for you on this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eire015 Posted July 11, 2013 Share Posted July 11, 2013 What am I not getting here - How did that large cone image not "tornate" ? I thought the large cone was the EF-1 in Coventry which was not the Tolland storm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT Rain Posted July 11, 2013 Author Share Posted July 11, 2013 Well hold on. It's possible there could have been contact with the ground, but don't forget it was moving rapidly and if I recell correctly, turned more northeasterly too. So, if your damage represents more straight line winds...you have to role with that. There is only so much you can do so they have to go with what's given to them. Like Ryan said, could be RFD winds as the jet rushed out from the storm and possibly accelerates out. The condensation was probably tickling the ground at times, but if you don't have tornadic damage...I think the NWS is limited as to what to call it. It was moving like 25 mph so it's certainly possible that if it truly was a very weak EF0 you could have damage that would be indistinguishable from an RFD. In that case... since you lack damage indicators to the contrary... straight line wind damage is the correct label. The storm also had very weak rotation on radar at the lowest slice (granted that's high up) but there was some semblance of an appendage or hook feature which would argue that there might have been some RFD signature trying to show up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted July 11, 2013 Share Posted July 11, 2013 Hey at least you saw a FC. I saw cirrus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT Rain Posted July 11, 2013 Author Share Posted July 11, 2013 I thought the large cone was the EF-1 in Coventry which was not the Tolland storm. Correct... the video and pics of the "tornado" with the good movement was in Coventry and Mansfield. The Tolland video showed some rotation and movement and some scuddy looking funnel but it certainly wasn't conclusive like the southern storm video. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted July 11, 2013 Share Posted July 11, 2013 It was moving like 25 mph so it's certainly possible that if it truly was a very weak EF0 you could have damage that would be indistinguishable from an RFD. In that case... since you lack damage indicators to the contrary... straight line wind damage is the correct label. The storm also had very weak rotation on radar at the lowest slice (granted that's high up) but there was some semblance of an appendage or hook feature which would argue that there might have been some RFD signature trying to show up. Yeah exactly...subtract that motion and it's straight line winds. Or just RFD...either way I suppose your hands are tied if you don't find debris in a cyclonic fashion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted July 11, 2013 Share Posted July 11, 2013 Well at least you saw 2 MB within a year while I'm sitting with my Schmensa in my hand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted July 11, 2013 Share Posted July 11, 2013 Watch the video and decide for yourselves http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lrlK35PYETQ@BradNBCCT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TalcottWx Posted July 11, 2013 Share Posted July 11, 2013 Kevin is wrong again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TalcottWx Posted July 11, 2013 Share Posted July 11, 2013 Watch the video and decide for yourselves http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lrlK35PYETQ@BradNBCCT Doesn't work Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted July 11, 2013 Share Posted July 11, 2013 It wasn't a microburst. I'm the village idiot now and that's fine, but it was not a microburst. The trees were not all flattened in one direction. At any rate anyone who watches the video can clearly see what it was. Have your fun now at my expense wait, you weren't the village idiot already? (kidding.. love you) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted July 11, 2013 Share Posted July 11, 2013 Kev bucket list cross off cancel? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted July 11, 2013 Share Posted July 11, 2013 In truth Kevin likely saw the FC and the damage and thought TOR. I know we joke about his love for damage, but I know he wouldn't lie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted July 11, 2013 Share Posted July 11, 2013 Try it again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhoon Tip Posted July 11, 2013 Share Posted July 11, 2013 Watch the video and decide for yourselves http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lrlK35PYETQ@BradNBCCT There could be some rotation there but it doesn't appear to be associated with an updraft. Remember ... outflow foots can "curl", both in the horizontal and vertical, but that sort of rotation is fluid mechanical and not associated with rotating updraft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT Rain Posted July 11, 2013 Author Share Posted July 11, 2013 Honestly... and I'm not trolling here... that video doesn't tell me anything. I can't even tell if there's a funnel cloud there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted July 11, 2013 Share Posted July 11, 2013 In truth Kevin likely saw the FC and the damage and thought TOR. I know we joke about his love for damage, but I know he wouldn't lie. the northeast is full of crap tornado reports even from people who should know better.. which is why im always skeptical until seeing something completely for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wxeyeNH Posted July 11, 2013 Share Posted July 11, 2013 Euro in long range drives some as Don Kent would say summah polah aeah d9-10. The younglings here don't remember those days but wasn't he the best! TV mets have gone so downhill since the days of Don Kent and and Bob Copeland. Only Harvey and Barry are left! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted July 11, 2013 Share Posted July 11, 2013 Honestly... and I'm not trolling here... that video doesn't tell me anything. I can't even tell if there's a funnel cloud there. it's a lot of motion but hard to say much else Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baroclinic Zone Posted July 11, 2013 Share Posted July 11, 2013 What the hell kind of spider is this. Holy crap bit huge! Like 2-3" across. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT Rain Posted July 11, 2013 Author Share Posted July 11, 2013 Quincy gave yesterday a 2.43 on the Q-Tor index. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tropopause_Fold Posted July 11, 2013 Share Posted July 11, 2013 Honestly... and I'm not trolling here... that video doesn't tell me anything. I can't even tell if there's a funnel cloud there. i agree. i watched it a bunch of times. you have to speculate what's going on there. i wish whoever was driving had done something different - gone a different direction or whatever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted July 11, 2013 Share Posted July 11, 2013 Here's the other one. No turning there either? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted July 11, 2013 Share Posted July 11, 2013 What the hell kind of spider is this. Holy crap bit huge! Like 2-3" across. uploadfromtaptalk1373576121439.jpg uploadfromtaptalk1373576135006.jpg spiders are awesome, kill them damn biting bugs, cool shot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted July 11, 2013 Share Posted July 11, 2013 i agree. i watched it a bunch of times. you have to speculate what's going on there. i wish whoever was driving had done something different - gone a different direction or whatever. I agree, if he had stopped at a good vantage point, seemed like he was worried about his house though, I can understand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted July 11, 2013 Share Posted July 11, 2013 the northeast is full of crap tornado reports even from people who should know better.. which is why im always skeptical until seeing something completely for sure. Well right, there was probably a lot of motion, but how many times do people see a low scud and claim FC? He probably saw legit turning and thought FC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT Rain Posted July 11, 2013 Author Share Posted July 11, 2013 Here's the other one. No turning there either? An ominous storm... but meh. Compare that video to this... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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