weathafella Posted June 17, 2012 Share Posted June 17, 2012 You need to ave 72 from tomorrow on to finish aoan for the month. Boston will not be above for the month. No chance IMHO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted June 17, 2012 Author Share Posted June 17, 2012 Boston will not be above for the month. No chance IMHO. Mine too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherwiz Posted June 17, 2012 Share Posted June 17, 2012 With temperatures in the upper 70's or maybe 80F under the cold pool if we could get dewpoints that would be in the lower or even mid 60's that would yield some pretty nice instability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted June 17, 2012 Share Posted June 17, 2012 I looked at dailies and d8 was subnormal but that was the only day. Did I read it wrong? I'm on my ipad, but d9 and d10 look below to me...http://raleighwx.americanwx.com/models/ecmwfens/12zecmwfenshourly850mbTempAnomalyNA216.gif http://raleighwx.americanwx.com/models/ecmwfens/12zecmwfenshourly850mbTempAnomalyNA240.gif My source matches Allan's images here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wx4cast Posted June 17, 2012 Share Posted June 17, 2012 Pretty far out at any rate, smoothed ENS if the GFS and OP have a clue it's below normal. Plenty of time to see how it evolves, pretty clear signal from NAO, MJO and recurving typhoon. Andy agrees Yes, I do!! Hovemoller Data supports this. Could be a brief 2 day "warm-up" around the 4th-5th of July but overall signals support less sumery weather end of June through first half of July. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted June 17, 2012 Share Posted June 17, 2012 OP Euro says this thread is a PHAIL..Above normal goes on and on and on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ski MRG Posted June 17, 2012 Share Posted June 17, 2012 Yes, I do!! Hovemoller Data supports this. Could be a brief 2 day "warm-up" around the 4th-5th of July but overall signals support less sumery weather end of June through first half of July. OP Euro says this thread is a PHAIL..Above normal goes on and on and on Hmmmm, let's see. The analysis of a veteran, well respected meteorologist or the ramblings of a delusional weenie that has been beating the torch drum despite the continued lack of anything close to hot. I guess I'll put my money on Andy as his track record is stellar. Blizz's track record is, well, if you can't say something nice...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted June 17, 2012 Share Posted June 17, 2012 OP Euro says this thread is a PHAIL..Above normal goes on and on and on Haha I knew when I saw you had posted here that it was about the cool down failing or endless heat going on and on. You've become way too predictable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted June 17, 2012 Share Posted June 17, 2012 Haha I knew when I saw you had posted here that it was about the cool down failing or endless heat going on and on. You've become way too predictable. Just posting on what the Euro has..Doesn't mean it's right..but as Jerry pointed out Euro ens aren't cool either Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted June 17, 2012 Share Posted June 17, 2012 Hmmmm, let's see. The analysis of a veteran, well respected meteorologist or the ramblings of a delusional weenie that has been beating the torch drum despite the continued lack of anything close to hot. I guess I'll put my money on Andy as his track record is stellar. Blizz's track record is, well, if you can't say something nice...... Pete...to be fair they both can be right. Blizz just said "above normal" and Andy said a "less summery" appeal. Above normal doesn't always mean 90-100F and less summery doesn't have to mean below normal...just not 90F summer heat. Given the past year it's not a wild guess to say above normal...that should be the default forecast until proven otherwise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ski MRG Posted June 17, 2012 Share Posted June 17, 2012 Pete...to be fair they both can be right. Blizz just said "above normal" and Andy said a "less summery" appeal. Above normal doesn't always mean 90-100F and less summery doesn't have to mean below normal...just not 90F summer heat. Given the past year it's not a wild guess to say above normal...that should be the default forecast until proven otherwise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted June 17, 2012 Share Posted June 17, 2012 Euro ensembles aren't that warm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted June 17, 2012 Share Posted June 17, 2012 Euro ensembles aren't that warm. Stop embellishing...it's a never ending torch as some want us to believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forkyfork Posted June 17, 2012 Share Posted June 17, 2012 AGW is making people desperate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted June 17, 2012 Share Posted June 17, 2012 AGW is making people desperate And bringing out torch weenies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted June 17, 2012 Share Posted June 17, 2012 Folks are looking for any little thing to hang hats on to get temps normal or below. It just isn't in the cards folks. Not this summer..Maybe autumn or winter..but nothing below over the next 2-3 mths Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted June 17, 2012 Share Posted June 17, 2012 Folks are looking for any little thing to hang hats on to get temps normal or below. It just isn't in the cards folks. Not this summer..Maybe autumn or winter..but nothing below over the next 2-3 mths This summer will be nothing like the last two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forkyfork Posted June 17, 2012 Share Posted June 17, 2012 Folks are looking for any little thing to hang hats on to get temps normal or below. It just isn't in the cards folks. Not this summer..Maybe autumn or winter..but nothing below over the next 2-3 mths when was your last -5 month? i can't remember the stats off the top of my head, but +5 months have been much easier to come by than -5 months Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoob40 Posted June 17, 2012 Share Posted June 17, 2012 This summer will be nothing like the last two. You know this for certain ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forkyfork Posted June 17, 2012 Share Posted June 17, 2012 And bringing out torch weenies. i've always liked heat. climate change is a blessing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted June 17, 2012 Share Posted June 17, 2012 Folks are looking for any little thing to hang hats on to get temps normal or below. It just isn't in the cards folks. Not this summer..Maybe autumn or winter..but nothing below over the next 2-3 mths How convenient for you that you think above normal through the summer months and then possibly below normal by fall and winter. Didn't you say you like hot summers and cold fall/winter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted June 17, 2012 Share Posted June 17, 2012 You know this for certain ? I don't think it's a stretch to say that. Those summers were brutal. Developing Nino summers usually aren't terribly warm, but there could always be August 2002. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted June 17, 2012 Share Posted June 17, 2012 when was your last -5 month? i can't remember the stats off the top of my head, but +5 months have been much easier to come by than -5 months I don't even remember when our last below normal month was..much less how much below it was. We don't get them anymore..anywhere Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted June 17, 2012 Share Posted June 17, 2012 I don't even remember when our last below normal month was..much less how much below it was. We don't get them anymore..anywhere Last June was -0.1F (at ORH), but it still counts. as far as -5....I have to look it up Been a while Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted June 17, 2012 Share Posted June 17, 2012 I don't even remember when our last below normal month was..much less how much below it was. We don't get them anymore..anywhere Hopefully winter is much above. There is your extreme. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted June 17, 2012 Share Posted June 17, 2012 July 2009 was -3.3F at ORH...(I'm just checking that station for now) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted June 17, 2012 Share Posted June 17, 2012 Jan 2009 was -4.7F Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted June 17, 2012 Share Posted June 17, 2012 Is there a tabular monthly temp departure thing anywhere? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forkyfork Posted June 17, 2012 Share Posted June 17, 2012 when was your last -5 month? i can't remember the stats off the top of my head, but +5 months have been much easier to come by than -5 months just a quick check: okx's climate page goes back to 2007. +5 or greater months at ewr: oct 07 +7.1 march 10 +6.0 april 10 +5.6 july 10 +5.1 july 11 +5.5 dec 11 +6.0 jan 12 +5.4 feb 12 +5.9 march 12 +9.2 -5: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted June 17, 2012 Share Posted June 17, 2012 EWR with a +5 or greater in July is enough to make me want to swallow an uzi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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