Geos Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 Copious amounts of snow - lol - not for 99% of this sub forum.. I was just saying for the storm overall, regardless of location. For February, I think it will typical. Mother nature tries balance things out. I'll leave it at that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawkeye_wx Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 12z Euro quite different for Iowa. Euro dumps all its snow from e CO and w KS up through Nebraska. After that the storm drives northeast(not east like GFS/GEM) and wanes quickly. It would be a non-event for this entire subforum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BowMeHunter Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 something worth actually driving to nebraska for on the euro. Even the Euro is worthless right now with all the flipping and flopping. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wisconsinwx Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 Somewhat OT, but it's def been a Denver winter, at least in terms of the contiguous 48 states. Is this winter storm #4 or #5 for them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thundersnow12 Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 Just rewatched the 12z NAM and it is basically a carbon copy of the GFS and GEM. What the models this morning are doing is crashing the sub-zero 850mb temp line southward across Iowa just as the big surge of moisture arrives. Yesterday morning the models were surging the warm air up through the area leading to a bunch of rain. I can't remember the last time we had a big snowstorm(6-10+ inches) with heavy, wet snow. That is certainly what this would be. getting forced ascent to cool the column nicely in that layer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smoof Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 Somewhat OT, but it's def been a Denver winter, at least in terms of the contiguous 48 states. Is this winter storm #4 or #5 for them? hah denver weather seems like its 60 one day and a foot of snow the next for them all the time. have a friend that lives just west of there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McDude Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 Somewhat OT, but it's def been a Denver winter, at least in terms of the contiguous 48 states. Is this winter storm #4 or #5 for them? I was thinking the same thing a few days ago... 50 one day, snow the next and vise versa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nic Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 Correct me if I am wrong but has the GFS flattened the storms track out over recent runs? It appears more like it wants to go straight across the country rather then dig up into the plains. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 I'd be liking central nebraska right now for a good snowfall, outside of there not real sure about. Some of the modeling looks good in Iowa- say the Northern third or so- perhaps just nosing into SW Wisconsin and NW Illinois and then it just dries up/falls apart. Problem is some of these models still also believe there is a deep snowpack in these areas too which causes the modeling to be anomalously colder than reality. Again, I cannot bite on any solution that says heavy snow North of I80 in Iowa at this point. Now if a good cold draw drops down for this to tap I might start changing my opinion. Dynamic cooling with this thing may not be present as it will be dampening out as it moves East or Northeast. I shouldn't say may not be present- more like won't be as strong or prevalent. I'll just say it right now- I don't expect a big snow anywhere to the right of a Waterloo, Ia- Omaha, Ne- Dodge City Ks line. And perhaps that line lays out more from Waterloo Ia- Grand Island Ne too if its more of a straight W-E mover. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michsnowfreak Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 Somewhat OT, but it's def been a Denver winter, at least in terms of the contiguous 48 states. Is this winter storm #4 or #5 for them? Karma working big time, Denver had an atrocious winter last year while we were all digging out. Actually its felt like Denver weather here this past month, snow/cold - warm - snow/cold - warm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mnweather Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 Karma working big time, Denver had an atrocious winter last year while we were all digging out. Actually its felt like Denver weather here this past month, snow/cold - warm - snow/cold - warm. I agree about the karma thing, anyways you in Detroit aren't doing all that horrible this winter, sure you have below average snow but its not by much. You don't really complain about it though so more power to you I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michsnowfreak Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 I agree about the karma thing, anyways you in Detroit aren't doing all that horrible this winter, sure you have below average snow but its not by much. You don't really complain about it though so more power to you I guess. Our season total isnt horrible, but the lack of snowcover or any moderate snowfalls has really been a letdown. But yes, we could be doing a lot worse, as witnessed by many others in the midwest/northeast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blue60007 Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 18Z GFS looks "better" here... still a big fizzle fest east of the MS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowstorms Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 Haha The 500mb vort maps look interesting. Low becoming closed with a decent PNA Ridge and weak 50/50 Low. Lets see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BowMeHunter Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 beastfromtheeast won't post 9 emoticons to a NAM map. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geos Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 Haha The 500mb vort maps look interesting. Low becoming closed with a decent PNA Ridge and weak 50/50 Low. Lets see. That would be a concrete/plaster type snow here! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeastFromTheEast Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 beastfromtheeast won't post 9 emoticons to a NAM map. Its the 84 hr. Nam and it also has a tendency of putting out ridiculous QPF #'s.. Besides I got better things to do than making lame jokes and bitter trolling around on a weather board Hope that Cheese n Beer Dinner was noicee! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beavis1729 Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 Somewhat OT, but it's def been a Denver winter, at least in terms of the contiguous 48 states. Is this winter storm #4 or #5 for them? Not really...it has essentially been an average winter so far in Denver. Dec. 2011: 3 degrees below normal Jan. 2012: 5 degrees above normal Season-to-date snowfall of 34", which is near normal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wisconsinwx Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 Not really...it has essentially been an average winter so far in Denver. Dec. 2011: 3 degrees below normal Jan. 2012: 5 degrees above normal Season-to-date snowfall of 34", which is near normal. Anyone who's had an average winter should def feel like it's their winter, unless you live in Alaska, not to mention it looks like Denver will be above average in snowfall after this week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 Haha The 500mb vort maps look interesting. Low becoming closed with a decent PNA Ridge and weak 50/50 Low. Lets see. Yep.. All has to do with that 50/50 low and how strong/weak it is. Seasonal trends say the models are overdong that feature. We'll see anyways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stebo Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 Too much confluence along the East Coast, unless that changes it will be DOA as it passes the Mississippi Valley. In reference to the GFS, the NAM has a totally different jet structure entirely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BowMeHunter Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 Its the 84 hr. Nam and it also has a tendency of putting out ridiculous QPF #'s.. Besides I got better things to do than making lame jokes and bitter trolling around on a weather board Hope that Cheese n Beer Dinner was noicee! Ok, steebers jr. Nice of you to stop trolling my PM box on here now that you've realized I have been right almost every snow event and you have been rong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeastFromTheEast Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 Ok, steebers jr. Nice of you to stop trolling my PM box on here now that you've realized I have been right almost every snow event and you have been rong. 20$ we get 20 more inches of snow from today onward.. You in? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BowMeHunter Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 20$ we get 20 more inches of snow from today onward.. You in? That would be to easy of a win for me. Looks like you need an avatar so we could just do an avatar bet unless you really feel like losing 20 bucks. This was really looking like a great shot for LAF up to Toronto Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeastFromTheEast Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 That would be to easy of a win for me. Looks like you need an avatar so we could just do an avatar bet unless you really feel like losing 20 bucks. This was really looking like a great shot for LAF up to Toronto Alright avatar it is... Middle-End of Feb will be rocking for LAF... I still think this thing still has a few surprises up its sleeve as well.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wisconsinwx Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 That would be to easy of a win for me. Looks like you need an avatar so we could just do an avatar bet unless you really feel like losing 20 bucks. This was really looking like a great shot for LAF up to Toronto Oh brother another avatar bet. Anyways, this storm would take a miracle to see a significant event this far north and east. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BowMeHunter Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 Alright avatar it is... Middle-End of Feb will be rocking for LAF... I still think this thing still has a few surprises up its sleeve as well.. Deal! Don't lie lol, the NAM gave you a little pants tent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geos Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 The GEM is only model showing snow in Wisconsin of any consequence. I'm thinking that model might be a bit too wet.T Actually the NAM does bring some snow in to. Hard to tell how much as this range though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 00z GGEM gets heavy precip east of the Mississippi. Maybe the NAM isn't totally on crack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 This is one ugly setup. We've had some this winter but they were more clean ugly. This is ugly ugly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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