dmc76 Posted November 1, 2011 Share Posted November 1, 2011 You will find out in a heartbeat, winter is much more reliable in the midwest than on the east coast. Way more winter, way less historic storms lol. I would rather have a Boston winter over a Detroit Winter in a Heartbeat! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpartyOn Posted November 1, 2011 Share Posted November 1, 2011 I would rather have a Boston winter over a Detroit Winter in a Heartbeat! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-L-E-K Posted November 1, 2011 Share Posted November 1, 2011 I would rather have a Boston winter over a Detroit Winter in a Heartbeat! agree. Anyways, got down to around 41 last night, still not frost/freeze. Courtyard flowers hanging tough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago Storm Posted November 1, 2011 Share Posted November 1, 2011 New NAM coming in finally figured out the mid-week system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpartyOn Posted November 1, 2011 Share Posted November 1, 2011 agree. Anyways, got down to around 41 last night, still not frost/freeze. Courtyard flowers hanging tough. Trolling hard again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wisconsinwx Posted November 1, 2011 Share Posted November 1, 2011 Trolling hard again. I agree as well. I'm pretty sure Boston averages a tad more snow than Detroit, and gets the Nor'easters that snow lovers in the Midwest would be happy to get half of. Now if you're comparing Detroit, Milwaukee, or Chicago to New York, I would probably take the former three, because New York's snow averages are in the 20s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Organizing Low Posted November 1, 2011 Share Posted November 1, 2011 new york is not a great place in the winter. some big storms here and there, but the vibe is poor for several months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpartyOn Posted November 1, 2011 Share Posted November 1, 2011 I agree as well. I'm pretty sure Boston averages a tad more snow than Detroit, and gets the Nor'easters that snow lovers in the Midwest would be happy to get half of. Now if you're comparing Detroit, Milwaukee, or Chicago to New York, I would probably take the former three, because New York's snow averages are in the 20s. Last I checked Boston receives less snow on average than Detroit and most of the other GL cities. In Boston you could spend a solid month waiting on norlum trough or a decent coastal bomb. Yes u get larger scale synaptic systems but in the great lakes you get more bang for your buck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hm8 Posted November 1, 2011 Share Posted November 1, 2011 Last I checked Boston receives less snow on average than Detroit and most of the other GL cities. In Boston you could spend a solid month waiting on norlum trough or a decent coastal bomb. Yes u get larger scale synaptic systems but in the great lakes you get more bang for your buck. Boston does average a couple more inches of snow then the Detroit area (according to http://www.nws.noaa.gov/climate/index.php?wfo=box and http://www.nws.noaa.gov/climate/xmacis.php?wfo=dtx), and also averages more 10"+ snowstorms per year (0.2 for Detroit and 0.5 for Boston). However, Boston also averages winters that are substantially warmer and with less snow cover days then Detroit. Pick you poison. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeastFromTheEast Posted November 1, 2011 Share Posted November 1, 2011 I agree as well. I'm pretty sure Boston averages a tad more snow than Detroit, and gets the Nor'easters that snow lovers in the Midwest would be happy to get half of. Now if you're comparing Detroit, Milwaukee, or Chicago to New York, I would probably take the former three, because New York's snow averages are in the 20s. Ditto, Boston is great, NYC nasso much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-L-E-K Posted November 1, 2011 Share Posted November 1, 2011 Trolling hard again. 100% serious I'd take Boston winters over non-lake belt midwest winters anyday. the rest of the seasons, naso much. not to mention you go a few miles west into the suburbs where most people live anyways and the difference is even greater, case in point 67 inches in Worcester. Almost none of our MW/Lakes posters actually live in Chicago or Detroit anyways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpartyOn Posted November 1, 2011 Share Posted November 1, 2011 Actually I was wrong..by an inch or less . 42 inches for annual Boston snow. Right on par with Detroit and most other GL cities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpartyOn Posted November 1, 2011 Share Posted November 1, 2011 Boston does average a couple more inches of snow then the Detroit area (according to http://www.nws.noaa.gov/climate/index.php?wfo=box and http://www.nws.noaa.gov/climate/xmacis.php?wfo=dtx), and also averages more 10"+ snowstorms per year (0.2 for Detroit and 0.5 for Boston). However, Boston also averages winters that are substantially warmer and with less snow cover days then Detroit. Pick you poison. Bingo. It depends on if you want 3 big events or a long drawn out threshold of hell frozen over GL type winter. Personally give me a Chicago or Detroit winter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wisconsinwx Posted November 1, 2011 Share Posted November 1, 2011 Bingo. It depends on if you want 3 big events or a long drawn out threshold of hell frozen over GL type winter. Personally give me a Chicago or Detroit winter. Maybe I'm in the minority, but the only reason I really want cold is for the opportunity for snowstorms. Cold and dry (even with snow on the ground) is nearly useless imo (unless it's record breaking cold, which is interesting for the record's sake). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpartyOn Posted November 1, 2011 Share Posted November 1, 2011 I can't turn my back on the fact that new egland gets incredible coastal bombs once in while. But I'll take my weekly or bi weekly colorodo or hookers any day. Frequency for some quality an amounts for others. Gosh we sound like addicts who need a 12 step program. Some serious weather junkies. Factor in our clippers too. Sure some hit MA and dump but they entertain us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted November 1, 2011 Share Posted November 1, 2011 New NAM coming in finally figured out the mid-week system. Looks like it's pushed the snow farther west. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowlover2 Posted November 1, 2011 Share Posted November 1, 2011 Appears a pattern change to colder might be approaching. GFS has been hinting at colder air for several runs with the 12z run today opening the flood gates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago Storm Posted November 1, 2011 Share Posted November 1, 2011 Looks like it's pushed the snow farther west. Indeed... It's overall setup is now similar to the other models. Now the only issue is the area of snow it shows is more widespread and significant than the others show, which might be due to it's cold bias. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michsnowfreak Posted November 1, 2011 Share Posted November 1, 2011 Bingo. It depends on if you want 3 big events or a long drawn out threshold of hell frozen over GL type winter. Personally give me a Chicago or Detroit winter. Agree 100%. Now, interior New England its a different story, but then again snowfall and especially snowcover also increases dramatically just NW of Detroit. But if we are strictly talking metro areas of Boston vs Detroit, its a nobrainer to go for Detroit for me. Not a QUESTION that Detroit is a better winter climate. It's much more reliable. No question Boston has been getting slammed with some epic snowstorms lately, but think of all the winters where the area gets screwed, not to mention even in those great winters they have long periods of nothing often-times. Here, if we go a week without measurable snow here in the winter, many on here complain like crazy, even with snow on the ground. This happens ALL the time in Boston, many times 2-3-4 weeks at a time. Though the snowfall averages are near identical (per NOWdata the 1981-2010 says 44.0" at DTW and 45.1" at BOS), two totally different winter climates. 1981-2010 per NOWdata Avg snowfall: DTW: 44.0", BOS 45.1" Days with 1"+ snowcover DTW: 46.7 days, BOS: 24.1 days Days with 3"+ snowcover: DTW: 28.3 days, BOS: 14.7 days Days with 5"+ snowcover: DTW: 15.3 days, BOS: 9.0 days Days with 10"+ snowcover: DTW: 2.9 days, BOS: 3.1 days Days with measurable snowfall: DTW: 36.8 days, BOS: 22.4 days Days with 1"+ snowfall: DTW: 13.4 days, BOS: 11.1 days Days with 3"+ snowfall: DTW: 4.3 days, BOS: 4.9 days Days with 5"+ snowfall: DTW: 1.7 days, BOS: 2.8 days Days with 10"+ snowfall: DTW: 0.2 days, BOS: 0.5 days Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michsnowfreak Posted November 1, 2011 Share Posted November 1, 2011 Appears a pattern change to colder might be approaching. GFS has been hinting at colder air for several runs with the 12z run today opening the flood gates. I see that. though the OP is much colder than all ensembles at the end of the period. Im hoping for the usual where the OP GFS catches onto a change too soon lol, as I will be out of town Nov 13-20. Then bring on winter on Nov 21st! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michsnowfreak Posted November 1, 2011 Share Posted November 1, 2011 I can't turn my back on the fact that new egland gets incredible coastal bombs once in while. But I'll take my weekly or bi weekly colorodo or hookers any day. Frequency for some quality an amounts for others. Gosh we sound like addicts who need a 12 step program. Some serious weather junkies. Factor in our clippers too. Sure some hit MA and dump but they entertain us. Yup, as I said in my post above, I see complaining on here ALL the time when we go 5-7 days without a snowfall. I also always hear things about how the snow is looking old and needs a refresher. LOL what would these people do on the east coast when even in a good winter, you go weeks, sometimes a month straight without any snow at all, and in a bad winter...suicide here we come! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-L-E-K Posted November 1, 2011 Share Posted November 1, 2011 Yup, as I said in my post above, I see complaining on here ALL the time when we go 5-7 days without a snowfall. I also always hear things about how the snow is looking old and needs a refresher. LOL what would these people do on the east coast when even in a good winter, you go weeks, sometimes a month straight without any snow at all, and in a bad winter...suicide here we come! meh, i regularly go weeks or months without real snow in the winter. NE winters are better, more snow, more big snows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BowMeHunter Posted November 1, 2011 Share Posted November 1, 2011 Seems about 90% of americanwx doesn't get out much in the cold and snow anyways to enjoy winter and if I was one of those its a slam dunk Boston>Detroit for me. Just not enough big events for some reason around detroit and south to pass up the hard on tracking a nor'easter brings.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-L-E-K Posted November 1, 2011 Share Posted November 1, 2011 Seems about 90% of americanwx doesn't get out much in the cold and snow anyways to enjoy winter and if I was one of those its a slam dunk Boston>Detroit for me. Just not enough big events for some reason around detroit and south to pass up the hard on tracking a nor'easter brings.. spot on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpartyOn Posted November 1, 2011 Share Posted November 1, 2011 meh, i regularly go weeks or months without real snow in the winter. NE winters are better, more snow, more big snows. ? Months without snow? I assume your speaking about summer and fall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpartyOn Posted November 1, 2011 Share Posted November 1, 2011 The difference is 1 inch between Boston and Detroit. If your obsessed with size than you can compensate with Boston. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-L-E-K Posted November 1, 2011 Share Posted November 1, 2011 ? Months without snow? I assume your speaking about summer and fall. nah, i've easily gone a month+ without meaningful snow in chicago, especially during the '90s into the early part of 2000s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roardog Posted November 1, 2011 Share Posted November 1, 2011 meh, i regularly go weeks or months without real snow in the winter. NE winters are better, more snow, more big snows. We get a lot more days of snow even if it's very light just because we live east of Lake Michigan. It must kind of suck over there when you get those bitter but sunny days. While you're getting that, we are probably at least getting scattered snow showers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted November 1, 2011 Share Posted November 1, 2011 If we're only talking about winter, I think I'd have to go Boston over Detroit too. I'd take the less frequent snows in exchange for better bomb potential. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thundersnow12 Posted November 1, 2011 Share Posted November 1, 2011 If we're only talking about winter, I think I'd have to go Boston over Detroit too. I'd take the less frequent snows in exchange for better bomb potential. I would too for sure. But love living where I do now for winter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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