forkyfork Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 what exactly makes them more prone to that? Is it because most of the storm is lower physically in the atmosphere so therefore gets pushed around less by UL currents? the depth of the storm is greater, thus the winds higher in the atmosphere have more of an effect. isn't this common sense? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forkyfork Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 i appreciate it, but with a higher/stronger storm is it more prone to shear in the upper levels also? absolutely not. a storm with higher cloud tops will not be affected by upper level winds at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forkyfork Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 absolutely not. a storm with higher cloud tops will not be affected by upper level winds at all. after thinking about this post for a bit, this only reinforces my opinion that this will be a devastating 1938 repeat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisM Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 the depth of the storm is greater, thus the winds higher in the atmosphere have more of an effect. isn't this common sense? not everyone is a met, and you have to start somewhere with your learning which oftentimes involves asking questions to be sure that information you've obtained went in correctly. sorry... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phlwx Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 not everyone is a met, and you have to start somewhere with your learning which oftentimes involves asking questions to be sure that information you've obtained went in correctly. sorry... There's nothing wrong with asking questions...the problem is too many people... 1) aren't reading the thread first to see what was written. 2) posting stupid stuff in general to make the thread a proverbial clusterf**k. A good # of folks really need to post less/read more. It would really cut down on the crap...and the 1938 lolz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted September 3, 2011 Share Posted September 3, 2011 I am glad some of the more knowledgable posters have the patience and maturity to answer legitimate questions while remaining polite. The amount of snarky and rude comments by highly educated people is saddening. Asking a serious question in a regional forum should be allowed and encouraged without being insulted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeatherX Posted September 3, 2011 Share Posted September 3, 2011 I am glad some of the more knowledgable posters have the patience and maturity to answer legitimate questions while remaining polite. The amount of snarky and rude comments by highly educated people is saddening. Asking a serious question in a regional forum should be allowed and encouraged without being insulted. A quick skim is all that you need to do over there. The newbie will most certainly be turned off by the general "vibe", as Josh so eloquently has coined it. It's entertaining to see the posturing and posing that goes on. But it's just that, entertainment. If you need actual information and a real forecast, let's not forget the NHC and the real Pro's who do their jobs at the highest of levels, and verify best, year in and year out. Of course, the SNE thread is always a must stop/read/stay with the likes of our local talent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted September 3, 2011 Share Posted September 3, 2011 The NHC is amazing under incredible pressure. And people want to make cuts there... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bostonseminole Posted September 3, 2011 Share Posted September 3, 2011 I give up.. now I know why Ray only posts in the winter.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted September 3, 2011 Share Posted September 3, 2011 Guys, if you want to complain about the moderation, do it in off topic...or if its SNE-centric, at least do it in the banter thread and not this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
free_man Posted September 3, 2011 Share Posted September 3, 2011 for SnowNH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bostonseminole Posted September 3, 2011 Share Posted September 3, 2011 Guys, if you want to complain about the moderation, do it in off topic...or if its SNE-centric, at least do it in the banter thread and not this one. Sorry..thanks for reminder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattb65 Posted September 3, 2011 Share Posted September 3, 2011 for SnowNH That an example of the LOLgaps cutting off the low a bit further west than other models and making it a bit negative plus somehow capturing Katia to draw it toward SNE? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted September 3, 2011 Share Posted September 3, 2011 i appreciate it, but with a higher/stronger storm is it more prone to shear in the upper levels also? Well it would be, but these storms are prone to shear even when they are weak. Believe it or not, the updrafts in tropical systems are not nearly as strong as say, severe tstms in the Plains. They are entirely different beasts in the tropics. The shear can disrupt the updrafts and displace convection in tropical systems so that is why we don't want shear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowNH Posted September 3, 2011 Share Posted September 3, 2011 for SnowNH Holy fook.. the SE bias nogaps! That's 2 models hitting now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tornado Girl Posted September 3, 2011 Share Posted September 3, 2011 blog post up on early analyses of Katia and Lee. http://www.wx4cast.blogspot.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted September 3, 2011 Share Posted September 3, 2011 I give up.. now I know why Ray only posts in the winter.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted September 3, 2011 Share Posted September 3, 2011 Satire aside, I wouldn't rule out some effects from Katia. It's possible heights are relaxed a little more than progged between D5 and 8 over Canda, or maybe gulf system gets partially absorbed but seperates and cuts off a little further north...subtle changes would go a long way and there is some time left to address the details. I would not rule out a good amount of rain throughout e NE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Torchey Posted September 3, 2011 Share Posted September 3, 2011 I would not rule out a good amount of rain throughout e NE. waffle house Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Torchey Posted September 3, 2011 Share Posted September 3, 2011 I understand if mets disagree,but to call out another (well respected) met is ridiculous, if you have a problem, take it to OT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowNH Posted September 3, 2011 Share Posted September 3, 2011 I understand if mets are drunk,but to call out another drunk (well lubed) CT shoreline citizen, if you have a problem, take it to the bar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeatherX Posted September 3, 2011 Share Posted September 3, 2011 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Torchey Posted September 3, 2011 Share Posted September 3, 2011 god bless america Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
free_man Posted September 3, 2011 Share Posted September 3, 2011 Remind me of this post in 3 days...could be interesting getting there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT Rain Posted September 3, 2011 Share Posted September 3, 2011 Nova Scotia destroyer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted September 3, 2011 Share Posted September 3, 2011 Nova Scotia destroyer? Could be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT Rain Posted September 3, 2011 Share Posted September 3, 2011 Could be. That trough/closed low would have to be like 300 miles west to get us in the game. Don't think it's gonna happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NSwx Posted September 3, 2011 Share Posted September 3, 2011 Nova Scotia destroyer? I like what im reading.. Carry on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted September 3, 2011 Share Posted September 3, 2011 That trough/closed low would have to be like 300 miles west to get us in the game. Don't think it's gonna happen. Yeah agreed. I think the westerlies dip too far south into NNE. It could try to phase into that ULL and dump some rain and a little wind over the Cape, but to bring her up here would take some more work. I suppose you can't completely write it off, but that's how it looks to me anyways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT Rain Posted September 3, 2011 Share Posted September 3, 2011 Yeah agreed. I think the westerlies dip too far south into NNE. It could try to phase into that ULL and dump some rain and a little wind over the Cape, but to bring her up here would take some more work. I suppose you can't completely write it off, but that's how it looks to me anyways. Yeah you want to see the low diving out of the northern Plains and ready to amplify and cut-off.... not a low opening up and lifting out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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