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Personally, I wasn't shocked that 2024-2025 didn't produce in terms of snowfall...my forecast totals were pretty damned accurate, as they were this past season.

Well, obviously the globe has continued to warm over the past 11-12 years, but you are also neglecting to mention that winter 2024-2025 featured a strongly +WPO. This past season had a strongly -WPO, and what do you know...the snowfall showed up. Obviously not to the extent of the 100" in 30 days like 2015, but I think we all understand that that has a very low return rate, regardless of CC. I know there was a school of thought that this +WPO regime would be permanent as a result of the warmth in the western Pacific, but this past season clearly validated those of us that have maintained that these oscillations will remain cyclical in nature.

Inverted trough starting to show up on some models Friday night into Saturday morning.. looks a bit south and west for now though

I don't think these are mutually exclusive. It was warm for a couple of different reasons. 1982-1983 is the only super El Nino that was a accompanied by somewhat of a -WPO, which may help to explain why it's the only one to have featured decent snowfall throughout the NE.

The atmospheric response in 23-24 was a full super El Niño when viewed through the intensity and location of the 500mb ridge in North America and warmth along the Northern Tier. The troughs across the South and East along with the Aleutian low were much weaker than we typically see with stronger El Niños. It’s a similar effect to what we have seen the last two winters with the ridges becoming more expansive than 13-14 and 14-15 leading to a much smaller trough across the Great Lakes and Northeast So we didn’t get the magnitude of the cold or snow experienced during the 13-14 and 14-15 winters during 24-25 and 25-26. Goes to the shrinking Northern Hemisphere cold pool relative to similar teleconnections during the past. So metrics like ONI, RONI, and PDO need to be filtered through this newer expression of the ridges and troughs to arrive at the sensible weather.

Try consolidating your data you will find the story matches my above analytics.

Did you guys get any accumulation? Im in Florida its 80 here....

33° with a nice sun pillar to start the day in Burnsville. Sent from my Pixel 10 Pro using Tapatalk

I will be on the Tug Hill Plateau Saturday morning, so this may actually happen.

Things that make ya go "hmmm".....

30⁰ here atm

Hope ‘Springs’ eternal! Stay well, as always …….

Probably nyc south

Gun-to-head right now....I don't think we are going to see that warm of a result accompanying El Nino again at such a short return rate, warming background state not withstanding. We just had a super El Nino that heralded in this western-warm pool oriented regime in 2016, and then the one in 2024 which seems to have triggered a "changing of the guard" so to speak in the north Pacific.

Nothing is a very good metric for measuring anything if the index is going to be taken at face value without an understanding of what the number is trying to convey. It harkens back to what we discussed regarding WHY the RONI lagged the ONI that season.....the weaker hemispheric expression was due to the antecedent cool ENSO configuration of of the hemisphere partially masking it, which was also reflected by the -PDO. It was very similar to the 1972-1973 in that sense. This is also why the degree of warmth across the NE that winter was still redolent of a higher end el Nino.

Yea, I am not resigned to a dud-winter next season. Quite the contrary, I think we are going to need an excessively strong and eastern biased warm ENSO to counter the clear paradigm shift we have observed in the north Pacific over these past two years. I think short of that, I am going to be be inclined to favor a 2002-2003 sort of outcome. I could see it gong either way at this point, but I think a lot rides on ENSO this season.

27 this morning.

your future is hot and dry leave now before it's too late

Daily oisst has moved into record territory, continuing to track 2023; but 0.1 - 0.2C warmer. It is likely that SST will continue to set daily records until the developing nino fades sometime in 2027.

Bottomed out right below freezing, 31.9. Looking across central NC looks like most areas (besides RDU) got below freezing with some areas seeing sub-28 degree freezes. Pretty big temp bust by NWS I don’t think anyone was explicitly forecast to get below freezing. That’s now the 4th 32 or lower reading this month IMBY

I remember that outbreak but I was living down in Savannah at the time and don't remember a "feel" to the air or anything. Can you describe it?

latest 3km NAM looks fun enough for chicago tomorrow afternoon

A lot of the warmth in 23-24 Winter was from +WPO. A little harder to connect that to ENSO. Beyond that, are you saying that El Nino has an anomaly relative to global warming, or it's just global warming points - everything is warming everywhere? Does the same work in reverse for La Nina's?