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Torrential snow continues and has been pouring down at Palisades all night. It is pretty. But it is all for Naught. It is all melting on contact. Might as well be heavy rainfall. Western ski resorts are done after this winter, probably even before the winter is finished. La Nina is pushing record amounts of Pacific Puke across the mountain ranges along with very warm airflow, resulting in temps just mild enough for 'Mid Atlantic Classic Snow Futility' that ensures DC-like results, every time with every storm there this entire winter. Results: Slush on ground. Terrible to ski on. Tremendous lost revenue. Ski resorts must shut down; if anything it's because of insurance concerns. Just enough snow to tease everyone, but not enough to ski on safely, due to spicyness/dangerous obstacles like boulders, logs, smaller rocks, etc etc. Brown/Gray outright yucky depressional epically GRINCH Christmas for the western ski resorts as disgruntled customers begin shouting for refunds, even rioting.
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Mid to long range discussion- 2025
Leesville Wx Hawk replied to wncsnow's topic in Southeastern States
I see it GaWx. A whole lot would have to come together in that scenario but at least it’s something to watch. . -
If it snows to our south again before we get snow (based on last nights model run), I give up
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December 2025 regional war/obs/disco thread
moneypitmike replied to Torch Tiger's topic in New England
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Wdym? All I was saying that I’m waiting until the weeklies are more consistent for at least a few days instead of flip flopping. Only then I’ll think there’s some credibility to their forecasts.
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White Christmas Miracle? December 23-24th
Sey-Mour Snow replied to Baroclinic Zone's topic in New England
Yup RRFS has now joined the NAM rankings .. although seems like every model is flip flopping around with this one .. I think you just paint a 1-3” across all the northeast and see what happens lol -
Is this year 3 of drought? Before this dry period it was wet for a few years but that didn't help snow totals lol
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White Christmas Miracle? December 23-24th
Great Snow 1717 replied to Baroclinic Zone's topic in New England
Can you please REMOVE me from THAT Xmas card list?? LOL..thanks in advance!! -
This has to be the most extreme -WPO +EPO dipole that we have seen in December. Lead to the unusually strong ridge out West with the -PNA for such a strong -WPO. Record Pacific Jet and historic flooding in the Pacific Northwest. Strong December -WPO 500 mb composite more -EPO snd weaker Western U.S. ridge
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We can’t seem do get out of this liquid drought. Stj has been dead for months
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Yeah that continues to be the period to keep an eye on. Various op runs have had a snow/mix event for the MA/NE the last few days. Weakish signal on the Ens runs.
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Pittsburgh/Western PA WINTER ‘25/‘26
Gordo74 replied to Burghblizz's topic in Upstate New York/Pennsylvania
Doesn't look like anything worth looking at the next 10 days, unfortunately. Can't complain about this December though. -
White Christmas Miracle? December 23-24th
Baroclinic Zone replied to Baroclinic Zone's topic in New England
Wafting too much TB there. We ogle at the 06z RRFS. Still see no change in my thoughts 24hrs ago. -
Still a window
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Hunga Tonga volcano assessment report is out. Large effect on stratosphere but relatively small effect at surface: Professor Maycock said, "The Report shows that although water vapor is a greenhouse gas, Hunga had a net cooling effect overall and did not cause the record level of global warming observed in 2023 and 2024. This is a very important finding as understanding what caused the recent surge in global warming is a priority for the climate science community." https://phys.org/news/2025-12-international-reveals-atmospheric-impact-hunga.html https://juser.fz-juelich.de/record/1049154/files/Hunga_APARC_Report_full.pdf?version=1
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White Christmas Miracle? December 23-24th
The 4 Seasons replied to Baroclinic Zone's topic in New England
Yeah that 00Z run was completely cracked out and unrealistic. We had a similar type nuisance event almost to the day 4 years ago, Dec 24th, 2021. Similar NW-SE track and qpf trajectory, though interior MA should certainly see more snow than that one. I think we're all just tired of these and foaming at the mouth for a region wide warning event to satiate our snowless appetites. - Today
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White Christmas Miracle? December 23-24th
Kitz Craver replied to Baroclinic Zone's topic in New England
Mehrry Christmas… -
Winter 2025-26 Medium/Long Range Discussion
A-L-E-K replied to michsnowfreak's topic in Lakes/Ohio Valley
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White Christmas Miracle? December 23-24th
CoastalWx replied to Baroclinic Zone's topic in New England
Well good luck to all. Gonna be done here for awhile. Merry Christmas and hopefully Santa brings a girthy weenie down the chimney to you all. -
December 2025 regional war/obs/disco thread
mahk_webstah replied to Torch Tiger's topic in New England
My weather underground is showing 6.6” snow between Friday and Sunday. So some model is showing something -
White Christmas Miracle? December 23-24th
CoastalWx replied to Baroclinic Zone's topic in New England
That model backed off at 6z. Toss 00z. -
White Christmas Miracle? December 23-24th
CoastalWx replied to Baroclinic Zone's topic in New England
Meh -
Yeah, Christmas 2020 was very rough for the ski resorts with the fastest loss of a near 40”+snowpack around BGM on record for late December. Climatological Data for BINGHAMTON (GREATER AP), NY - December 2020 2020-12-17 22 15 18.5 -9.2 46 0 1.69 26.4 39 2020-12-18 22 8 15.0 -12.4 50 0 0.00 0.0 31 2020-12-19 24 3 13.5 -13.6 51 0 0.00 0.0 29 2020-12-20 31 21 26.0 -0.9 39 0 0.14 1.8 26 2020-12-21 36 29 32.5 5.9 32 0 0.02 T 25 2020-12-22 34 27 30.5 4.1 34 0 0.01 0.1 22 2020-12-23 36 22 29.0 2.8 36 0 0.00 0.0 20 2020-12-24 50 34 42.0 16.1 23 0 1.55 0.0 19 2020-12-25 53 20 36.5 10.8 28 0 0.80 0.8 1 Data for Binghamton Area, NY (ThreadEx) Click column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. 1969-12-25 18 -8 0.16 2.4 14 1969-12-26 25 16 0.93 13.6 18 1969-12-27 21 16 0.14 4.9 32 1969-12-28 24 20 0.01 1.0 33 1969-12-29 26 16 0.00 0.0 29 1969-12-30 29 24 T T 24 1969-12-31 27 9 0.31 2.5 20 1970-01-01 19 5 0.00 0.0 19 1970-01-02 17 1 T T 18 1970-01-03 26 13 0.09 1.7 18 1970-01-04 20 9 0.01 0.3 18 1970-01-05 27 8 0.01 0.3 17 1970-01-06 24 17 T 0.1 18 1970-01-07 20 12 T T 18 1970-01-08 12 -1 T 0.3 18 1970-01-09 5 -7 T T 18 1970-01-10 17 5 0.06 2.1 19 1970-01-11 23 13 0.01 0.2 20 1970-01-12 22 14 0.15 2.3 21 1970-01-13 24 15 0.05 2.0 23 1970-01-14 15 7 0.02 0.6 24 1970-01-15 12 2 T T 24 1970-01-16 35 7 0.00 0.0 23
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Central PA Winter 25/26 Discussion and Obs
Voyager replied to MAG5035's topic in Upstate New York/Pennsylvania
Finally looked back at Fridays stats for Tamaqua (my backyard). Max wind, as I mentioned earlier, was well below most places due to houses and nearby mountains sheltering my neighborhood. High temp: 57 Low temp: 24 Wind gust: 16.2 mph Rainfall: 1.26"
