A-L-E-K Posted 21 hours ago Share Posted 21 hours ago 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyclone77 Posted 21 hours ago Share Posted 21 hours ago Main action likely to miss east and especially south of here. Should get a nice non severe MCS in the morning though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torchageddon Posted 21 hours ago Share Posted 21 hours ago 42 minutes ago, mjwise said: According to this database (still seemingly updated), it would be record-breaking or nearly so for June once it gets into the lower GL region. Per the map below, record low pressure in June from Chicagoland into the central portion of the lower peninsula of michigan is ~992-993mb https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.gov/research/roth/SLPrecords.html I love those maps, its been a while. I'm surprised in OH valley the rec low slps are that high, and the gradient between central ON and central MI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pen_artist Posted 21 hours ago Share Posted 21 hours ago 12 minutes ago, A-L-E-K said: I want to believee 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyclone77 Posted 20 hours ago Share Posted 20 hours ago Kind of wondering if this setup is going to over-convect. Several models are showing a line of supercells. May be too much storm competition for a widespread tornado setup. Gonna be interesting to see how this plays out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-L-E-K Posted 20 hours ago Share Posted 20 hours ago should see initiation right overhead tomorrow afternoon 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metallica470 Posted 19 hours ago Share Posted 19 hours ago StormNet went wagons south again: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-L-E-K Posted 19 hours ago Share Posted 19 hours ago rip champaign Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nvck Posted 18 hours ago Author Share Posted 18 hours ago Record low slp 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metallica470 Posted 18 hours ago Share Posted 18 hours ago SPC expanded the enhanced north and east: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbnwx85 Posted 18 hours ago Share Posted 18 hours ago Zoomed in view 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbnwx85 Posted 18 hours ago Share Posted 18 hours ago Also a large 45% 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyhb Posted 18 hours ago Share Posted 18 hours ago 42 minutes ago, nvck said: Record low slp Generally when you blend a record strength 500 mb shortwave with a record strength surface low, you're going to expect some pretty anomalous outcomes assuming moisture is available, which it looks to be. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MidwestChaser Posted 16 hours ago Share Posted 16 hours ago New NAM brings the action up to the 88. area. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackstraw Posted 16 hours ago Share Posted 16 hours ago Mid 980's is getting into Cat 2 Hurricane territory lol. This seems to be a classic Great Lakes/Ohio Valley kinematic setup that we would normally see in some of the Feb/early March or Nov. outbreaks we've had in the past as currently modeled. See how the models respond tomorrow before I get too excited. That upper level jet timing and strength as modeled right now certainly has me intrigued anyway. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CheeselandSkies Posted 15 hours ago Share Posted 15 hours ago 21Z RAP box soundings are nuts. 730 m2/s2 inflow layer SRH. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-L-E-K Posted 15 hours ago Share Posted 15 hours ago Lol 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MidwestChaser Posted 14 hours ago Share Posted 14 hours ago 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackstraw Posted 13 hours ago Share Posted 13 hours ago 2 hours ago, CheeselandSkies said: 21Z RAP box soundings are nuts. 730 m2/s2 inflow layer SRH. There's shotgun soundings everywhere in IL/IN between I70 and I80 on some of the CAM's. Might be too good lol 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyhb Posted 11 hours ago Share Posted 11 hours ago Have to imagine a D2 MDT is coming given the magnitude of the setup being shown by the 00z guidance thus far, with some supercells on the CAMs interacting with it. Just incredible wind fields. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pen_artist Posted 10 hours ago Share Posted 10 hours ago Little under 48 hours out looks like a thread the needle event for areas of DuPage and Cook near the city. Will be incredibly fast storm motion 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeenerWx Posted 8 hours ago Share Posted 8 hours ago Nice. D2 Moderate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyhb Posted 7 hours ago Share Posted 7 hours ago Quote An outbreak of severe thunderstorms is expected across portions of Illinois and Indiana on Wednesday. Intense tornadoes, swaths of damaging gusts to 80 mph and hail to 2.5 inch diameter are expected. Main uncertainty being the placement of the warm front and antecedent convection. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King James Posted 3 hours ago Share Posted 3 hours ago WF staying south of the lake always a good bet 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MazooWeather Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago Slight risk introduced for today for Michiana, 5% TOR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbnwx85 Posted 33 minutes ago Share Posted 33 minutes ago 41 minutes ago, MazooWeather said: Slight risk introduced for today for Michiana, 5% TOR An appetizer, if you will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbnwx85 Posted 27 minutes ago Share Posted 27 minutes ago Tomorrow’s tornado probs… for posterity sake. 5% hatched imby, but 15% double hatched is just 30 minutes south. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbnwx85 Posted 24 minutes ago Share Posted 24 minutes ago LOT’s AFD goes crazy Wednesday: An unusually powerful shortwave trough is progged to race east-southeastward into the upper Midwest and western Great Lakes Wednesday into Wednesday evening. Model guidance is in good agreement on the synoptic scale with 500 mb heights progged to be 3-4 standard deviations below normal for mid June. At the sfc, an associated low pressure that could threat all- time monthly record for June is expected to develop across Wisconsin and eventually move into lower Michigan. Unsurprisingly, the kinematic fields with such an anomalously strong system are also nearing the upper echelons of what we see this time of year in the Midwest. All of this to say that synoptically, the ingredients are coming together for a potentially dangerous outbreak of severe thunderstorms and potentially long-tracked, intense tornadoes. On the mesoscale, there are naturally greater uncertainties regarding precisely where (and to a lesser extent, if) the overlap of exceptionally strong deep and low level shear and moderately strong instability will take place. SPC`s latest SWODY2 highlights areas south of I-80 in our CWA with a rare day 2 moderate risk (level 4 of 5) for Wednesday. The potential ceiling for bad this severe weather event could get is quite high, but it is also important to note there are obviously still failure modes that could materialize on the mesoscale and prevent the reasonable worst case scenario from unfolding. The general expectation as it looks now is that a strong low level jet (increasing to 60kt+ at 850 mb by 12z Wed) will result in very strong low level theta-e advection and eventually the development of strong to severe thunderstorms late tonight. Initially development is expected over eastern IA, but as the low level jet translates eastward into IL, it should support this convection developing/moving into northern IL near/after sunrise Wednesday morning. While this convection will be elevated, strong effective shear and a reservoir of 1000-2000 J/kg of MUCAPE should allow for elevated supercells. The greatest severe risk Wednesday morning looks to be over our western and eventually southern CWA. In addition to the threat large hail, strong shearing instability near a sharpening frontal inversion would point to at least some threat for the development of gravity wave associated convection. Should this occur, a damaging wind threat could also develop, despite little or no sfc based instability. In fact, there could even be pockets of locally significant severe wind gusts (>75 mph) near or just west/south of our CWA Wednesday morning. This convection will probably evolve into an MCS as it tracks east across northern IL and into northwest Indiana Wednesday morning. The morning convection will likely augment the warm frontal position and at least initially slow the northward progression of the composite warm front/outflow boundary, delaying destabilization north into our CWA. This seems to be the most obvious potential failure mode: morning convection retarding the northward surge of the warm front and subsequently the stronger instability, keeping the extreme wind shear profiles and strong synoptic forcing somewhat divorced from the more favorable instability. While that is one potential obvious failure mode, at this point, it seems unlikely to fully succeed in completely disrupting the otherwise exceptionally favorable synoptic set-up from resulting in a high end severe threat. Though the precise location of the most likely area(s) to see a high end event, could change some on the mesoscale as the event nears. The reason that this morning convection is unlikely to completely stunt the northward surging warm front is the extremely strong mass response expected as a result of the near record deep low pressure system. With a far less intense low last Thursday, an impressively large footprint of a cold pool left behind from an MCS that lingered well into the afternoon was able to be completely overcome in just a matter of a couple of hours late in the day. Something similar seems plausible again tomorrow afternoon where a dissipating outflow boundary from early convection could separate an extremely volatile air mass from a still sufficiently unstable air mass north of the boundary could support severe thunderstorms with damaging winds and isolated tornadoes. There is variance in guidance with just how far north the effective boundary will get, but somewhere generally in the vicinity of I-80 is where a majority of the models show it reaching its peak latitude in our CWA. To the south of this boundary, the environment looks similar to what`s often seen in the cool season major tornado outbreak in the southeastern United States. Forecast hodographs are literally off the chart, with 0-1 environmental SRH >500 m^2/s^2. This sort of extreme low level shear, coupled with low LCLs and resultant strong 0-3km CAPE, fast storm motion, and favorable downstream environment is the classic type of set-up long tracked strong- violent tornadoes. It`s important stress that while the synoptic set-up is classic for a tornado outbreak, we are dealing with convection that often alters the mesoscale environment in ways that cannot be anticipated 12-24+ hours in advance. As noted above, there are certainly scenarios where an alteration of the mesoscale environment could dramatically reduce or shift the area of the greatest tornado risk. For this reason, it is important to monitor later forecasts closely. Finally, in addition to the supercell tornado threat, a fast moving line of severe thunderstorms/possible derecho may also accompany the front producing widespread, potentially significant, wind damage as well as line embedded tornadoes, some possibly strong. Not to be overlooked, precipitable water values are progged to get to near or just above 2", meaning that convection will likely be extremely efficient rain producers. The stronger convection could easily produce 2"+ of rain in just an hour or so. Given the antecedent very moist ground and generally above average streamflow, there is a threat of flash flooding Wednesday. The greatest threat may be with the first round of convection, since it will likely be a bit slower moving and offer a better chance of some training cells than the second round. When the area most at risk can be better refined, we will need a flood watch for portions of the area for Wednesday as well. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malacka11 Posted 12 minutes ago Share Posted 12 minutes ago Severe is one thing as it is, but I'm actually scared of flooding because the Saturday night or whatever storms that rolled through had my exhaust entirely submerged overnight, like the tips were at least two inches underwater as were the bottoms of my doors. Fortunately I still drive the tornado intercept shit box worth roughly the gas in its tank but my understanding is an outbreak miss south might mean more qpf up here, which may not work out great. Like half of my complex's parking lots were underwater because the storm drains were backing up. I saw the hydrological outlook or whatever and it was not too encouraging 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-L-E-K Posted 9 minutes ago Share Posted 9 minutes ago yeah happy to up here in the non-tornadic wind and flood zone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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