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Napril 2026 Discussion/Obs


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10 hours ago, PhiEaglesfan712 said:

Something weird is going on this year. I have never seen so many wild temperature swings like this. I hope this doesn't continue into the summer. I don't want it to be 100 degrees one afternoon in June or July, then be near 50 degrees at the same time the next day or a few days later.

Nothing is going on…welcome to spring… in SNE anyway…I don’t think we have to worry about 50 degree days in July in the mid Atlantic or SNE.  

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39 minutes ago, dendrite said:

There was widespread 10s in the northern plains. My point though is that everyone got a piece of this. Maybe we linger some slightly BN temps into the weekend with chilly mins, but we’ll still have some napey 60° afternoons.

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Yeah ... in so far as this, I was not intending to argue that. Ha. 

No I'm just changing the subject a bit that we've appeared to slip back into this bias of cooler loading into SE Canada and NE/CONUS, not dissimilar to what plagued the the winter months.  I provided those monthly means ( C/O NASA) around the 10th of every succeeding new month over winter and into early spring.  Every month with the possible exception of March ( though arguable...), demoed we were cooler, either relative to local climatology when not relative to the planet as a whole.  

That annoys me, full disclosure.  For a couple of reasons. One being that I was afraid of a spring that forcibly jams cold shit down our throats and being powerless to stop it haha.  I'm grappling with how much of this is "normal" though to be fair.  The other reason is that CC-sociological stuff...  which is a murky imperfect science of human oblivion that I'll leave alone for now. 

I've shown no pause or shyness in extolling my extra special hatred for April over the years, despite my love for "springing" away from winter - but therein is the problem.  Seldom does this geography experience that kind of transition. I am definitely done with winter ( usually...) by February 15th every year, so let's big brother seasonal change while mother nature's not looking!

Anyway, looking forward at guidance for the next ...actually out to the end of the 360s, if that really characterizes our verification we will likely be back in that cold bias region..

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Ash are gone on my 100 acre woodlot. Might be a couple small trees near the road oddly enough that are still alive I'll have to check. This year should pretty much do it for the beech as well.

Loosing ash and beech so close together is a nightmare. We do not have ash on Long Island but tons of beech.
Catalpa is the latest native leaf out tree I have seen. Latest overall is crape Myrtle, I have had multiple clients complain that they want them replaced because they are dead. But inevitably they leaf out 3 weeks after everything else. LI is about the northern extent of where they are viable.


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14 hours ago, BrianW said:

I have noticed a few large Green Ash that seem to be hanging on and still look healthy in my area. I talked with a Forestry Professor from Yale who said they are finding some that they call lingering ash. Some kind of genetic resiatance. Some good articles out there if you google more on it. 

Lingering Ash (EAB Resistance): In North America, a small percentage of ash trees have survived EAB infestations. These "lingering ash" suggest a genetic basis for resisting the beetle, allowing for efforts to breed a new generation of resistant trees.

 

First I've read of green ash surviving.  Many sources have confirmed some survival of white ash but things look grim for green and brown.  In Maine (also probably elsewhere), efforts are being made to collect brown ash seeds, to fend off extirpation of this species of great importance to indigenous peoples in the Northeast.  (Other than urban plantings, Maine has very few green ash.)

No sign of EAB on our woodlot but it's not far away.  White ash is the 3rd most abundant there, trailing only red maple and balsam fir, and brown ash is a significant component as well.  I plan to have a harvest in the next few years, and would harvest all ash of sawlog/veneer quality 14"+ diameter while retaining all other ash.  (The 2013 harvest included no hardwood sawlogs but took a significant volume of hardwood pulp.  A second harvest would take some red and sugar maple logs along with the ash.)
 

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Came back 20 deg so far...  24 --> 44  

Pretty much 0 discernible wind ...any movement out there is closer to untouched and unknowable.  

With that purity of the clear sky and now late summer sun intensity, that's about as close to a 10/10 nape factor as can be found. 

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22 minutes ago, LongBeachSurfFreak said:


Loosing ash and beech so close together is a nightmare. We do not have ash on Long Island but tons of beech.
Catalpa is the latest native leaf out tree I have seen. Latest overall is crape Myrtle, I have had multiple clients complain that they want them replaced because they are dead. But inevitably they leaf out 3 weeks after everything else. LI is about the northern extent of where they are viable.


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Northern Catalpa are traditionally only native to parts of the MS river valley, but they grow like weeds everywhere. Blue ash isn’t native here either, but it has shown a little more EAB resistance than green and white. Of course it could just be a preference thing and once the green and white are gone they’ll move onto the blue. Can’t help you with the beech though.

Hickories and black walnut are nice shade trees, but hickories take a long time to grow. Butternut is faster, but those are diseased and dying too. The NH state forestry nursery has butternut hybrids that they sell for cheap in bulk. 

We need more people growing pawpaws too. :pimp:

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4 minutes ago, dendrite said:

Northern Catalpa are traditionally only native to parts of the MS river valley, but they grow like weeds everywhere. Blue ash isn’t native here either, but it has shown a little more EAB resistance than green and white. Of course it could just be a preference thing and once the green and white are gone they’ll move onto the blue. Can’t help you with the beech though.

Hickories and black walnut are nice shade trees, but hickories take a long time to grow. Butternut is faster, but those are diseased and dying too. The NH state forestry nursery has butternut hybrids that they sell for cheap in bulk. 

We need more people growing pawpaws too. :pimp:

Pawpaws at our frost pocket would probably fare the same as Reliant peach, which was (almost) a total failure. 
Hit 17° this morning, cool for late April, though we've matched it on 4/29 (twice).

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16 minutes ago, tamarack said:

Pawpaws at our frost pocket would probably fare the same as Reliant peach, which was (almost) a total failure. 
Hit 17° this morning, cool for late April, though we've matched it on 4/29 (twice).

I think they’re hardier than peach (people are growing some in MN). But you’d almost never get ripe fruit there with your short growing season. There are some cultivars out there that ripen early though. 

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