March Madness

[tunafish]

20 minutes ago, weatherwiz said:

HTF did Portland jump from 25 at the 7:00 obs to 40 at the 9:00 obs

Looks like other nearby ASOS (Sanford, Brunswick) did too.

Fake cold->full sun?

[VivaManchVegas]

5 hours ago, Brewbeer said:

I installed a natural gas fireplace insert about 10 years ago.  At the time, I was looking to install a wood burning insert (or pellet insert).  Looking at the cost of the various fuel sources at that time on a BTU output into the building basis, what I learned was that pellets AND purchased cordwood are just as expensive as natural gas as a fuel source for a fireplace insert.  The only fuel source less costly is free (or nearly free) cordwood that comes from you property or that you can scrounge.  

As someone who has a wood insert, pellet stove, heat pump and oil boiler FHW, I can say with authority, if you buy wood and wood pellets and burn them, you do it for comfort only (that point heat source that is nice to stand beside and drive the cold out of your body).  We burn 1 ton of pellets and 2 chord of wood per year.  For the amount of effort and the expense, burning wood to stay warm is not a money saving adventure even at this elevated price. 

[mreaves]

42 minutes ago, VivaManchVegas said:

As someone who has a wood insert, pellet stove, heat pump and oil boiler FHW, I can say with authority, if you buy wood and wood pellets and burn them, you do it for comfort only (that point heat source that is nice to stand beside and drive the cold out of your body).  We burn 1 ton of pellets and 2 chord of wood per year.  For the amount of effort and the expense, burning wood to stay warm is not a money saving adventure even at this elevated price. 

My dad was a HVAC tech for 30+years and he always said everything was tied to the price of oil. When heating oil goes up, wood goes up, natural gas goes up, propane goes up. It’s all based on oil. 

[VivaManchVegas]

I remember when oil went over 5 dollars a gallon recently.  I found this tidbit on the google machine.

• Historical Real Price (Inflation-Adjusted): While nominal prices spiked in 2022 to over $5 per gallon, the real cost (in 2026 dollars) was closer to $4.09.

[Damage In Tolland]

Where’s Wiz?thunder Saturday night 

[WinterWolf]

11 minutes ago, Damage In Tolland said:

Where’s Wiz?thunder Saturday night 

He might be looking for the March thread…and probably thought this was the Home Heating Commodity’s thread. 

[Brewbeer]

1 hour ago, VivaManchVegas said:

I remember when oil went over 5 dollars a gallon recently.

my last house (20 years ago) had an oil-fired boiler when purchased, I ditched that for gas before the first heating season 

[TauntonBlizzard2013]

7 hours ago, RUNNAWAYICEBERG said:

Thanks donald…

Gas up 55 cents in less than a week here. Folks better hope the cold weather shuts off in the next 10 days because they are going to need to borrow from their 401k for future heating bills.

I am honestly so tired of winning so much.

[WinterWolf]

11 minutes ago, TauntonBlizzard2013 said:

Gas up 55 cents in less than a week here. Folks better hope the cold weather shuts off in the next 10 days because they are going to need to borrow from their 401k for future heating bills.

I am honestly so tired of winning so much.

Take this f’n BS, and put it in the proper thread…WTF??   

[MJO812]

1 hour ago, TauntonBlizzard2013 said:

Gas up 55 cents in less than a week here. Folks better hope the cold weather shuts off in the next 10 days because they are going to need to borrow from their 401k for future heating bills.

I am honestly so tired of winning so much.

Bad post

[MJO812]

Let's go !

[The 4 Seasons]

2 hours ago, TauntonBlizzard2013 said:

Gas up 55 cents in less than a week here. Folks better hope the cold weather shuts off in the next 10 days because they are going to need to borrow from their 401k for future heating bills.

I am honestly so tired of whining so much.

Tell me about it

[The 4 Seasons]

42 minutes ago, MJO812 said:

Let's go !

That's our chance, mid month time period. After that it starts getting really dicey climo wise around our area

[MJO812]

16 minutes ago, The 4 Seasons said:

That's our chance, mid month time period. After that it starts getting really dicey climo wise around our area

Agree

Time is ticking 

[BrianW]

17 hours ago, Brewbeer said:

I installed a natural gas fireplace insert about 10 years ago.  At the time, I was looking to install a wood burning insert (or pellet insert).  Looking at the cost of the various fuel sources at that time on a BTU output into the building basis, what I learned was that pellets AND purchased cordwood are just as expensive as natural gas as a fuel source for a fireplace insert.  The only fuel source less costly is free (or nearly free) cordwood that comes from you property or that you can scrounge.  

You forgot about solar and heat pumps. I converted my entire house to electric/solar in CT in 2017. I bought my panels in cash and it took 5 years to reach my return on investment. My electricity bill from Eversource has been the $9.62 minimum connection charge since I installed them. 

Here is a snapshot from a sunny day earlier in the week. You can see my 2 mini splits and entire house being directly powered from my solar panels from 930-330. I have 1 to 1 net metering so all that excess I send out in the day I can use at night. 

Powering heat pumps directly from solar is basically free heat that is also the cleanest form of heat probably on earth since there is no combustion. Your also getting an coefficient of performance with an effective efficiency of like 300-400% compared to burning wood/fossil fuels since your just moving heat. 

You can also power heat pumps from other alternative clean energy sources like wind. 

 

[CoastalWx]

Wish we could fast forward to May. 

[ORH_wxman]

5 hours ago, The 4 Seasons said:

That's our chance, mid month time period. After that it starts getting really dicey climo wise around our area

Yep. Decent western ridge progged and some good cold to tap into. Hopefully the synoptic pieces line up as we get closer but the longwave pattern will want to give us a couple chances I’d think. 
 

11-15 is actually reasonably snowy. Esp northern half of New England but I think everyone is fair game. 

[The 4 Seasons]

4 minutes ago, CoastalWx said:

Wish we could fast forward to November.

I'm sayin' 

[CoastalWx]

13 minutes ago, The 4 Seasons said:

I'm sayin' 

We need that emoji banned 

[Damage In Tolland]

Backdoor?

[The 4 Seasons]

1 minute ago, CoastalWx said:

We need that emoji banned 

never. ineedsnow would lose his shit. plus it's adorable.

this one  on the other hand...

[CoastalWx]

3 minutes ago, Damage In Tolland said:

Backdoor?

Let him in?

[ORH_wxman]

4 minutes ago, Damage In Tolland said:

Backdoor?

Might happen for Wednesday. But we should torch for a few days before that.  

[CoastalWx]

21 minutes ago, ORH_wxman said:

Yep. Decent western ridge progged and some good cold to tap into. Hopefully the synoptic pieces line up as we get closer but the longwave pattern will want to give us a couple chances I’d think. 
 

11-15 is actually reasonably snowy. Esp northern half of New England but I think everyone is fair game. 

Is that what the charts show? Hope so. We hit the breaks big time and March is a long month if we can’t get anything interesting. 

[CoastalWx]

6 minutes ago, The 4 Seasons said:

never. ineedsnow would lose his shit. plus it's adorable.

this one  on the other hand...

We need that for the occasional meltdown from Cory and his traveling measuring adventures. 

[ORH_wxman]

4 minutes ago, CoastalWx said:

Is that what the charts show? Hope so. We hit the breaks big time and March is a long month if we can’t get anything interesting. 

Everything is too far west initially…almost looks like some of the garbage western trough patterns we had in recent winters…but I think once we get to the 16th or so we’ll have a few chances as the mean trough moves pretty close to us over the apps. 

[The 4 Seasons]

3 minutes ago, CoastalWx said:

Is that what the charts show? Hope so. We hit the breaks big time and March is a long month if we can’t get anything interesting. 

Weathergeek has some nice charts he can make for you.

But yea the Euro/EPS/AI has a nice look with wstrn ridge around the 16-19th time period. GEFS is more zonal and hasn't been that great looking overall compared to the EPS/AIEPS. Thats right about the time period that storm pops on the 00Z EC OP. Good solid HP to our north with a lot of cold air to work with as well.

GEPS is definitely more euro like

 

 

 

[Damage In Tolland]

14 minutes ago, ORH_wxman said:

Might happen for Wednesday. But we should torch for a few days before that.  

We had a great great run. I don’t recall the exact day in January where we had the first snowfall after the brief mild up but a solid 50+ days straight of deep snowpack. All good things as they say, must come to an end 

[CoastalWx]

8 minutes ago, The 4 Seasons said:

Weathergeek has some nice charts he can make for you.

But yea the Euro/EPS/AI has a nice look with wstrn ridge around the 16-19th time period. GEFS is more zonal and hasn't been that great looking overall compared to the EPS/AIEPS. Thats right about the time period that storm pops on the 00Z EC OP. Good solid HP to our north with a lot of cold air to work with as well.

GEPS is definitely more euro like

 

 

 

Yeah we’ll see I guess. Hopefully it’s Erin Go Shovel come St Patty’s day.

[The 4 Seasons]

4 minutes ago, CoastalWx said:

Yeah we’ll see I guess. Hopefully it’s Erin Go Shovel come St Patty’s day.

i missed that reference