Wxbear25 Posted Thursday at 04:04 PM Share Posted Thursday at 04:04 PM 1 minute ago, WeatherGeek2025 said: it's going to ride up eventually and tuck. Look out westchester and putnam that'll be the bullseye in my opinion! Euro will come in eventually by the time the storm starts because it's the worst model I think a whiff is far more likely than that occurring Unlike other changes that could happen, that would require a pretty significant change in the way things are situated 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nycsnow Posted Thursday at 04:05 PM Share Posted Thursday at 04:05 PM Hope the euro trends to this just so all the euro huggers are speechless 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeatherGeek2025 Posted Thursday at 04:05 PM Share Posted Thursday at 04:05 PM If GFS is right which it will ; snow starts Sunday around 1PM, ends Monday around 6PM that's a blizzy! 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nycsnow Posted Thursday at 04:07 PM Share Posted Thursday at 04:07 PM AIGFS west 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeatherGeek2025 Posted Thursday at 04:08 PM Share Posted Thursday at 04:08 PM CMC next looks like crap but still early in the run! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mob1 Posted Thursday at 04:08 PM Share Posted Thursday at 04:08 PM Canadian looks pretty crappy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeatherGeek2025 Posted Thursday at 04:09 PM Share Posted Thursday at 04:09 PM Just now, mob1 said: Canadian looks pretty crappy the run isn't even done Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastonSN+ Posted Thursday at 04:09 PM Share Posted Thursday at 04:09 PM Lost the CMC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasternLI Posted Thursday at 04:10 PM Share Posted Thursday at 04:10 PM 1 minute ago, nycsnow said: AIGFS west 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wxbear25 Posted Thursday at 04:10 PM Share Posted Thursday at 04:10 PM Just now, WeatherGeek2025 said: CMC next looks like crap but still early in the run! No, it’s definitely not good as is. At the very least it’s far from the GFS, closer to the EURO 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jconsor Posted Thursday at 04:10 PM Share Posted Thursday at 04:10 PM 8 minutes ago, jconsor said: This article speaks more about skill of AI models in medium range (beyond day 5), but I believe same applies in the 3-4 day range - AIFS ensemble has superior skill to EPS and other physics-based ensembles. AI-GEFS has superior skill to GEFS but isn't as skillful as AIFS ensemble. https://x.com/Brady_Wx/status/2021333729088585882 Given that GEFS and GEPS are closer than the EPS to AIFS ensemble (as well as AI-GEFS) in terms of more amplified trough initially over Ohio Valley/Great Lakes with more downstream ridging, and deeper upper low closer to the mid-Atlantic coast, I would weight them more than EPS in this setup. All models shifted in that direction (when compared to yesterday's 0z run) after ingesting a new batch of upper air data from recon. It appears to me that the EPS under-amplification bias may be at play here and it is most likely playing catch-up here, like the AI summary that Sacrus posted intimated happens sometimes in NE US winter storms. All that said, I think the best potential for a significant event e.g. 6"+ is from the Delmarva to southern and coastal NJ, and especially from eastern LI to southeast New England. As others have mentioned, given the upper level setup and strong indications of bombogenesis, as well as enhanced baroclinicity with anomalous cold SST near the mid-Atlantic coast butting up against above normal SST along the Gulf Stream, this storm needs to be carefully monitored. A small change in synoptics opens up the potential for a much more impactful storm, especially from coastal NJ to LI, but possibly a little further NW as well e.g. NYC, southern CT. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nibor Posted Thursday at 04:10 PM Share Posted Thursday at 04:10 PM At 500 mb CMC looks similar to the 6z Euro. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kat5hurricane Posted Thursday at 04:10 PM Share Posted Thursday at 04:10 PM 24 minutes ago, kat5hurricane said: Never said that the Euro was infallible and in fact I emphasized that point in my posts but the odds are when the highest scoring model doesn't buy a solution for many cycles odds are in its favor and it's just my own instinct from being a weather junkie for decades that the Euro is more often a leader than the GFS. I'd bet anything that we see the GFS start to cave starting now and if not then likely by 0z. Ok so 0z it is lol @Wxbear25 The GFS has been consistent with this solution, I'll give it that much, but unless we see other models converge on anything close to this it's hard to take seriously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeatherGeek2025 Posted Thursday at 04:11 PM Share Posted Thursday at 04:11 PM cmc is garbage for us oh well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastonSN+ Posted Thursday at 04:12 PM Share Posted Thursday at 04:12 PM Just now, WeatherGeek2025 said: cmc is garbage for us oh well If that inverted trough gets over us thats a moderate snowfall. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted Thursday at 04:13 PM Share Posted Thursday at 04:13 PM 5 minutes ago, mob1 said: Canadian looks pretty crappy Yep trended east Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastonSN+ Posted Thursday at 04:15 PM Share Posted Thursday at 04:15 PM Keep trending east and get that trough over us!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nycsnow Posted Thursday at 04:15 PM Share Posted Thursday at 04:15 PM Ready for spring. Done with this overhyped dry and cold winter once this misses 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SACRUS Posted Thursday at 04:16 PM Share Posted Thursday at 04:16 PM 2/10 12z Summary Total QPF: ICON: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SACRUS Posted Thursday at 04:16 PM Share Posted Thursday at 04:16 PM GFS AI AIGFS Total QPF: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SACRUS Posted Thursday at 04:16 PM Share Posted Thursday at 04:16 PM GFS 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SACRUS Posted Thursday at 04:17 PM Share Posted Thursday at 04:17 PM GGEM: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wxbear25 Posted Thursday at 04:17 PM Share Posted Thursday at 04:17 PM 4 minutes ago, kat5hurricane said: Ok so 0z it is lol @Wxbear25 The GFS has been consistent with this solution, I'll give it that much, but unless we see other models converge on anything close to this it's hard to take seriously Again, I think the GFS’s solution is not the most likely scenario by a longshot im not even against people saying they don’t believe it will happen, because despite the fact I WANT it to happen, i think it’s more likely to whiff than be a GFS-type super-bomb for our area When I say pessimism, I’m not referring to reasoned takes saying “it’s probably not going to happen”, it’s takes stating the definitive “it’s over” it’s the opposite of WG, and both extremes are obnoxious lol 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastonSN+ Posted Thursday at 04:18 PM Share Posted Thursday at 04:18 PM 1 minute ago, SACRUS said: GGEM: We want this EAST if the low won't tuck. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarcmmKU Posted Thursday at 04:19 PM Share Posted Thursday at 04:19 PM 55 minutes ago, MJO812 said: Wow steve D will be right again It's not that hard. Ridge axis is wrong and there's not enough separation between this and the friday system. OTS. Not a hard setup. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poker2015 Posted Thursday at 04:20 PM Share Posted Thursday at 04:20 PM 15 minutes ago, WeatherGeek2025 said: If GFS is right which it will ; snow starts Sunday around 1PM, ends Monday around 6PM that's a blizzy! 30 hours to get a foot of snow? Not impressive at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarcmmKU Posted Thursday at 04:20 PM Share Posted Thursday at 04:20 PM 47 minutes ago, Brian5671 said: Said it a million times but people hear what they want to hear. We've rarely if ever had a SECS/MECS w/o Euro being on board at this time range. In fact we've never had a high impact storm with 0 euro hits this close. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jm1220 Posted Thursday at 04:21 PM Share Posted Thursday at 04:21 PM Yep, if this misses-onto spring. I’m done with the teases, minor events gone in a day and black ice piles in the parking lots. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted Thursday at 04:24 PM Share Posted Thursday at 04:24 PM 4 minutes ago, MarcmmKU said: It's not that hard. Ridge axis is wrong and there's not enough separation between this and the friday system. OTS. Not a hard setup. Actually it is. Too many pieces flying. Gefs coming in more amped 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nycwinter Posted Thursday at 04:24 PM Share Posted Thursday at 04:24 PM my ideal time for spring to arrive is sometime in mid may.. 3 5 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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