ShawnEastTN Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 Yep and that’s going over areas that will get over .50 of ice… Sometimes you have to look at a model and just say that doesn’t look right. EURO hasn’t looked right to me. .Someone else mentioned today about the January 2024 storm how the GFS was more accurate and it really was considering how much of a mess the GFS has become. WVLT rode the Euro with their forecast and busted big time. I have a feeling this storm is going to be very similar to the January 2024 storm, except swap the snow with ice.Sent from my Pixel 10 Pro XL using Tapatalk 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bearman Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 Yes, the European (EURO/ECMWF) weather model successfully incorporated data from American Hurricane Hunter dropsondes for the major winter storm affecting the U.S. West Coast around January 20–22, 2026. Key Details on Data Integration: Active Assimilation: The 00z ECMWF run on January 20, 2026, was specifically noted as the first to incorporate the dropsonde data, which caused the model to "flinch" and adjust its forecast northward. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Boone Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 5 minutes ago, Matthew70 said: PLEASE SHARE: We are expecting snow, sleet, freezing rain, & rain. As of now, here’s what our team is thinking as far as snow & ice accum. The biggest takeaway is that travel will not only be dangerous but nearly impossible at times. Power outages are expected. Watch @WKRN! Didn't they used to be on that old Comedy variety show HeeHaw ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bearman Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 Sorry to be the bearer of bad news. I did hope you guys were on to something. I am still not giving up I have seen too many things change in the last few runs to ever throw in the towel. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TellicoWx Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 7 minutes ago, bearman said: Yes, the European (EURO/ECMWF) weather model successfully incorporated data from American Hurricane Hunter dropsondes for the major winter storm affecting the U.S. West Coast around January 20–22, 2026. Key Details on Data Integration: Active Assimilation: The 00z ECMWF run on January 20, 2026, was specifically noted as the first to incorporate the dropsonde data, which caused the model to "flinch" and adjust its forecast northward. Maybe they forget to switch it from standard to metric? (Just joking) 2 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tucker1027 Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 Yes, the European (EURO/ECMWF) weather model successfully incorporated data from American Hurricane Hunter dropsondes for the major winter storm affecting the U.S. West Coast around January 20–22, 2026. Key Details on Data Integration: Active Assimilation: The 00z ECMWF run on January 20, 2026, was specifically noted as the first to incorporate the dropsonde data, which caused the model to "flinch" and adjust its forecast northward.I thought the first flight was yesterday? . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TellicoWx Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 Probably doesn't mean alot here on east side of the state, but for western folks. 0z hrrr coming in further south in Arkansas with the winter weather. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrwolf1972 Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 6 minutes ago, TellicoWx said: Probably doesn't mean alot here on east side of the state, but for western folks. 0z hrrr coming in further south in Arkansas with the winter weather. Seems slower too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tucker1027 Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 HRRR is south ... 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bearman Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 18 minutes ago, Tucker1027 said: I thought the first flight was yesterday? . It was AI data, so I should have said that with all the disclaimers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greyhound Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 I thought the first flight was yesterday? .You are correct. The other flights prior to yesterday were “repositioning” flights. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottie16 Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 HRRR is south ... Dew points in single temps at the end of the run which is damn good!. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrwolf1972 Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 Why is it in 40s before the precipitation even gets to the valley 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GBOVolz Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 Why is it in 40s before the precipitation even gets to the valley Because it’s us. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrwolf1972 Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 Hrrr has no precipitation in valley until after 4pm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fountainguy97 Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 Hrrr is not leading. It's following the rest. It's not useful until inside 24hrs it made a big jump here at 00z but it looks like it just lines up with what the 12z set was. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrwolf1972 Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 Nam has hp 1055 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TellicoWx Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 Just now, fountainguy97 said: Hrrr is not leading. It's following the rest. It's not useful until inside 24hrs ^^^ Hrrr is only just starting to get in range for western borders. Outside 18 hrs is about it's limit to me. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Boone Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 10 minutes ago, GBOVolz said: Because it’s us . The great Valley warm slot. We'd get more Snow in some Area's if the Cumberlands and Smokies weren't there, lol . Downslope and warm nose Habitat. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tucker1027 Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 NAM is slower and maybe a tick south (?) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nash_LSU Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 17 minutes ago, GBOVolz said: Because it’s us . I don't know. The more things seem to be shaping up, the more I'm envious y'all will be getting rain. I'm sitting here with a 70% chance of getting >0.25" of ice on top of a layer of sleet that's on top of a layer of snow. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WintryMixmaster Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 Obviously a different setup, but if I remember correctly, the January 2025 storm forecast was pretty much set in stone and the phase ended up being a bit sloppy/late, giving the southern valley/N GA/N AL a surprise snow (and leading to a small bust for the northern valley). So I guess it isn't impossible that with so many pieces of energy coming together, this could surprise us despite the models seemingly converging on the amped solution. I feel like my ideal scenario would be the first wave coming in weaker and a few counties south giving us a nice front end snow/sleet, and the second wave coming in as temperatures go above freezing and giving us plain rain with no ZR in between. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew70 Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 For the last few hours I’ve seen several forecasters saying it’s slowing down. So what does that mean for the downstream effects. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GBOVolz Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 I don't know. The more things seem to be shaping up, the more I'm envious y'all will be getting rain. I'm sitting here with a 70% chance of getting >0.25" of ice on top of a layer of sleet that's on top of a layer of snow. If there is a bright spot it very well could be that. But I also remember all those years where I was furious over 33 and rain.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weatheriscool Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 5 minutes ago, Nash_LSU said: I don't know. The more things seem to be shaping up, the more I'm envious y'all will be getting rain. I'm sitting here with a 70% chance of getting >0.25" of ice on top of a layer of sleet that's on top of a layer of snow. Right there with you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GBOVolz Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 For the last few hours I’ve seen several forecasters saying it’s slowing down. So what does that mean for the downstream effects. It doesn’t get there as fastI kid…. I kid. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShawnEastTN Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 Obviously a different setup, but if I remember correctly, the January 2025 storm forecast was pretty much set in stone and the phase ended up being a bit sloppy/late, giving the southern valley/N GA/N AL a surprise snow (and leading to a small bust for the northern valley). So I guess it isn't impossible that with so many pieces of energy coming together, this could surprise us despite the models seemingly converging on the amped solution. I feel like my ideal scenario would be the first wave coming in weaker and a few counties south giving us a nice front end snow/sleet, and the second wave coming in as temperatures go above freezing and giving us plain rain with no ZR in between. ABSOLUTELY! I don't think anyone should be thinking anything about this storm is set in stone, the tiniest things off by just a little can make a huge difference. Whether that surface temps off by a couple degrees or strength of the storm off by a few MB, or storm tracks 50 or 100 miles off modeled track. All of those things are super minor and might not be modeled well but have huge impacts. This storm for us will really be a nowcast scenario, this storm I am certain will have surprises both good and bad I believe for different areas.Sent from my Pixel 10 Pro XL using Tapatalk 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carvers Gap Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 42 minutes ago, Tucker1027 said: NAM is slower and maybe a tick south (?) Out to 27...2-3 degrees colder over E TN than its run at 18z. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reb Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 Just now, Carvers Gap said: Out to 27...2-3 degrees colder over E TN. How is it compared to the 18z GFS? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaxjagman Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 You;d rather see it speed up tho not slow down,this is gonna be a brutal run Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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