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White Christmas Miracle? December 23-24th


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3 minutes ago, Sey-Mour Snow said:

GFS and EURO are worlds apart.. Euro now colder than GFS, GFS torches us on Wednesday 40-45.. Pretty frustrating differences. .GFS mostly misses with the main band, then swings the trough through later Tuesday into Wednesday but it's pretty warm by then.. 

I feel like that’s been one of the themes of the season so far. Hard to get consensus at short range. 

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Just now, Damage In Tolland said:

This looks like it has for days . 1-5” SE to NW.. most in hills especially Berks . Nothing has really changed 

No need to overthink honestly. Only variable left is if any inverted trough comes more into play and where that ends up impacting.

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3 minutes ago, MJO812 said:

Nam is further south but nice 

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It will be so nice to have some snow OTG if it works out.  I have relatives coming up from Florida.  They are in their 60s- it will be the first time they experienced Christmas outside of Florida.  Hoping this works out.  

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10 hours ago, WinterWolf said:

WTF are you talking about Bob?  This is a f’n weather forum.  I want to talk about weather. If T Blizz wants to keep being a negative fool…I have no time for that. If it sucks, fine.  But if there are some positives, before verification, then it needs to be pointed out.  
 

I don’t come here for mental health…if you do, and he does, I’m sorry.  

You don’t want to talk about the weather. You want to talk about snow and positive outcomes. That’s not the weather we’re experiencing, or have experienced the last half decade. I have no time for the all snow all the time crew, who ignore mountains of evidence of a bad snow regime pinning hopes to a needle in the haystack solution.

Period.

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Aside from outliers, this has basically been a 1-3/2-4 type event for much of interior SNE for a couple days now. There’s still some uncertainty on whether a little norlun/IVT can develop but my money would be downeast or mid-coast Maine for that. But it’s possible it could sneak down to north shore area too. 

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19 minutes ago, TauntonBlizzard2013 said:

You don’t want to talk about the weather. You want to talk about snow and positive outcomes. That’s not the weather we’re experiencing, or have experienced the last half decade. I have no time for the all snow all the time crew, who ignore mountains of evidence of a bad snow regime pinning hopes to a needle in the haystack solution.

Period.

In his defense, he’s also been pretty relentless in talking about how the awful 80s may be comparable to now. He may lean on uncertainty being an avenue to optimism and I can see how that would wear some people out, but preordaining every complex or suboptimal setup as evolving into the worst case scenario or announcing that your hand is firmly on the plug and you’re ready to pull after every model cycle ain’t it either. 

It’s a bad snow regime. I think 95% of the subforum understands that. But that does not mean that every chance this season must also be a disaster in waiting, even if some actually are in our backyards.

You’ve been around long enough to know that our climo skews toward smaller messy events far more than it does 6-12” or even 4-8” ones, especially in your region. If you want people to be as frustrated and despondent as you are, flash the canines and say it. Wolfe does it unapologetically. :lol: 

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Back to wx. It’s definitely tenuous for coastal areas, but you can see how a slightly more robust system is very good for much of the subforum being in striking distance of a widespread 2-4” event. I’d still lean 1-3” generally given the track and possibility we can’t amplify this to its ceiling, but still solid minor snow in advance of the holiday. 

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There should be some decent frontogenesis that crosses the region. Still have a quite a bit to iron out with the details but there should be a sizable swath of 1-3 inches. Def some concerns with boundary layer temps in some spots, but that won't be much of a concern if we get a decent precip. shield and a far enough south track.

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