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16 hours ago, anthonyweather said:

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Not sure how this map gets made but it seems pretty wrong based on the public information sheet mt holly released. Lower bucks/mercer/burlingon/monmouth counties all had reports of 6”+ as well. Hell it has 4.6 over TTN and they officially reported 6.8” what gives? 

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26 minutes ago, The Iceman said:

Not sure how this map gets made but it seems pretty wrong based on the public information sheet mt holly released. Lower bucks/mercer/burlingon/monmouth counties all had reports of 6”+ as well. Hell it has 4.6 over TTN and they officially reported 6.8” what gives? 

All of Jersey is way off.  The dates are also wrong.  It says 2 day snow total for Friday and Saturday.  Umm?

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Posted this on the NYC subforum and a NWS met said they took the Metuchen 8.7" measurement out, but I see it's still in the NWS-Philly's map, so figured I'd post it here.

Speaking of inflated measurements, someone else in Metuchen reported 8.7" vs. my report of 6.7". There's simply no way that's right, as it's an outlier vs. all other county reports (especially when, generally, more snow fell in southern Middlesex than northern) and it's a huge outlier vs. the nearby Edison reports (6.6" and 5.6") and my report of 6.7". Even when I measured on grass, the most I saw was about 7.4" so I can't imagine how someone got 8.7" - and Metuchen is only 1 square mile, so it's not like there is some gradient across town.  

...Middlesex County...
Metuchen 8.7 in 0945 AM 12/14 Public
Plainsboro Township 8.0 in 1100 AM 12/14 Public
Cranbury 7.3 in 1045 AM 12/14 Trained Spotter
East Brunswick Twp 7.0 in 1045 AM 12/14 COCORAHS
Edison 6.6 in 1045 AM 12/14 Newspaper
North Brunswick Twp 1.5 W 6.6 in 0426 PM 12/14 COCORAHS
Parlin 6.4 in 0100 PM 12/14 Trained Spotter
East Brunswick 6.2 in 1100 AM 12/14 Trained Spotter
Sayreville 6.0 in 1135 AM 12/14 Public
South River 5.8 in 1119 AM 12/14 Trained Spotter
Edison 5.6 in 1145 AM 12/14 Trained Spotter

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27 minutes ago, RU848789 said:

Posted this on the NYC subforum and a NWS met said they took the Metuchen 8.7" measurement out, but I see it's still in the NWS-Philly's map, so figured I'd post it here.

Speaking of inflated measurements, someone else in Metuchen reported 8.7" vs. my report of 6.7". There's simply no way that's right, as it's an outlier vs. all other county reports (especially when, generally, more snow fell in southern Middlesex than northern) and it's a huge outlier vs. the nearby Edison reports (6.6" and 5.6") and my report of 6.7". Even when I measured on grass, the most I saw was about 7.4" so I can't imagine how someone got 8.7" - and Metuchen is only 1 square mile, so it's not like there is some gradient across town.  

...Middlesex County...
Metuchen 8.7 in 0945 AM 12/14 Public
Plainsboro Township 8.0 in 1100 AM 12/14 Public
Cranbury 7.3 in 1045 AM 12/14 Trained Spotter
East Brunswick Twp 7.0 in 1045 AM 12/14 COCORAHS
Edison 6.6 in 1045 AM 12/14 Newspaper
North Brunswick Twp 1.5 W 6.6 in 0426 PM 12/14 COCORAHS
Parlin 6.4 in 0100 PM 12/14 Trained Spotter
East Brunswick 6.2 in 1100 AM 12/14 Trained Spotter
Sayreville 6.0 in 1135 AM 12/14 Public
South River 5.8 in 1119 AM 12/14 Trained Spotter
Edison 5.6 in 1145 AM 12/14 Trained Spotter

Yeah that report and probably a few others should have been removed from the final PNS. Just remember though, reports in PNSs and LSRs are all considered preliminary (not official).

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18 hours ago, MGorse said:

Yeah that report and probably a few others should have been removed from the final PNS. Just remember though, reports in PNSs and LSRs are all considered preliminary (not official).

Understood, was just hoping such outliers wouldn't be in the snowfall maps you guys generate.  Speaking of the PNS's I get while there are "partial" reports before the end of a storm when the storm is still going on, but I always wondered why the partial reports are usually still in the final PNA 12-24 hours after the event is over.  For example, with Sunday's storm, there are partial reports from 6 or 7 am, when the storm wasn't over for the vast majority of people in our area until 9-10 am.  Why not take these out?  

By the way, these are minor nitpicks.  As I've posted earlier, thought you guys did a great job with this storm and much better than many other media sources, especially in going with 3-5" amounts along 95 and even up through 78 (and saying the most would likely be between 95 and the coast) when many kept with their 1-3" predictions for those areas.  

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