December 2025 General Discussion

[RogueWaves]

Not a fan of ice but it has some photogenic qualities. Might strengthen the meager snow cover a bit too. This morning was legit.

[roardog]

30 minutes ago, RogueWaves said:

Not a fan of ice but it has some photogenic qualities. Might strengthen the meager snow cover a bit too. This morning was legit.

Looks about the same around here. It’s hazardous to walk anywhere.lol. Good thing there isn’t any wind tonight

[TheClimateChanger]

 

[Spartman]

When was there ever a previous December that any sunshine occurred for more than a week straight?  Since the 14th right after the snowstorm the day before, every single day had some sun, even when there were few days with any measurable precipitation or above-normal temps (especially yesterday's "Torchmas") during that stretch. Incredibly unreal, isn't it? 


Today, however, it all changed. Today was the first overcast day since the snowstorm back on the 13th and looks like we may very well be done with any sunshine heading into the new year. If this is the beginning of an upcoming longest overcast stretch of the season we're heading for, TWC/Wunderground is trying to be pushy about it.


Other than the rainstorm Sunday, pretty much ZZZZZZZZZ.
  

[TheClimateChanger]

10 hours ago, Spartman said:

When was there ever a previous December that any sunshine occurred for more than a week straight?  Since the 14th right after the snowstorm the day before, every single day had some sun, even when there were few days with any measurable precipitation or above-normal temps (especially yesterday's "Torchmas") during that stretch. Incredibly unreal, isn't it? 


Today, however, it all changed. Today was the first overcast day since the snowstorm back on the 13th and looks like we may very well be done with any sunshine heading into the new year. If this is the beginning of an upcoming longest overcast stretch of the season we're heading for, TWC/Wunderground is trying to be pushy about it.


Other than the rainstorm Sunday, pretty much ZZZZZZZZZ.
  

Wow, 66 tomorrow? Would be a new record for Dayton.  Have to imagine at least a few breaks of sun occur tomorrow to get that warm.

 

[Brian D]

Looks like a good hit Sun night. Not so sure if it'll be that great my way. Might hit min guidance. S of me will do really well with Lake enhancement/LES, tho. Then another strong shot of bitter air for the week. 

[Brian D]

16 hours ago, TheClimateChanger said:

 

Guess they will have to look at sat images/radar data to see if there was any convection going on at the time. There can be a fine line between hail or sleet sometimes. The whiteness of the graupel could easily be partially melted snow that refreezes. Most sleet I've seen is mostly clear, tho, so more data would be needed to make that call. It can be an easy mistake this time year. 

[mnchaserguy]

Looks like this could be one of the bigger storms we’ve had here in MSP the last couple winters. Pretty much all of the main models show 6” or more, including the GFS and Euro which seem to be performing the best this winter.


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[OrdIowPitMsp]

53 minutes ago, mnchaserguy said:

Looks like this could be one of the bigger storms we’ve had here in MSP the last couple winters. Pretty much all of the main models show 6” or more, including the GFS and Euro which seem to be performing the best this winter.


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Yeah this one has really trended in our favor the last 24hrs. Bombs away 

[cyclone77]

Looks like 1/4-1/2" of cold thunderless rain here followed by some flurries/snow showers Monday.  Would have been nice to get into the warm sector and get some storm action.  Sort of getting a lame split here.

[Chinook]

32 minutes ago, OrdIowPitMsp said:

Yeah this one has really trended in our favor the last 24hrs. Bombs away 

when the ensemble says 18", I'll say 36"

[Harry Perry]

Ahh yes, the usual Michigan winter I’ve come quite accustom to… Where it’s dry and sub-zero for days followed by a sudden warmup to 33° with 2” of rain and 60 mph winds one day, then right back to sub-zero and dry for weeks.
 

[mnchaserguy]

18z hrrr is really bullish for our entire area.


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[michsnowfreak]

Im so frickin jealous of the UP. They are going to get crushed with this blizzard. At least the snow base will be building up for when I go in mid February.

Been a while since our region has seen such a wound up storm...perhaps a good sign for the lower Lakes at some point in January or February?

[OrdIowPitMsp]

WSW for 5-8” with a blizzard warning one county west. Not much lead time on headlines, not sure how many people even know it’s going to snow tomorrow. 

[mnchaserguy]

WSW for 5-8” with a blizzard warning one county west. Not much lead time on headlines, not sure how many people even know it’s going to snow tomorrow. 

My wife had no idea until I mentioned it to her a couple hours ago.


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[Frog Town]

1 hour ago, OrdIowPitMsp said:

WSW for 5-8” with a blizzard warning one county west. Not much lead time on headlines, not sure how many people even know it’s going to snow tomorrow. 

If there's a place that's prepared for this last minute, it's your neck of the woods.  Congrats! 

[Powerball]

What's wild is this storm still has the potential to overachieve beyond what's already forecasted for MSP.

[mnchaserguy]

What's wild is this storm still has the potential to overachieve beyond what's already forecasted for MSP.

It’s crazy how quickly this thing evolved. Just a couple days ago I was talking about going ice fishing tomorrow. That won’t be happening now.


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[RogueWaves]

3 hours ago, michsnowfreak said:

Im so frickin jealous of the UP. They are going to get crushed with this blizzard. At least the snow base will be building up for when I go in mid February.

Been a while since our region has seen such a wound up storm...perhaps a good sign for the lower Lakes at some point in January or February?

Technically NO, only 3 yrs since the pre-Christmas bomb. You know, the one that was forecast to bomb much earlier and actually be a legit bliz for The Mitt. Instead it finally got going good up in Canada and serious wind-driven +SN was confined to the usual LES Belts of both peninsulas. LP is way over-due for a wound-up powerhouse storm, to say nothing of a CAT-5 (20+) storm that delivers such to more than a couple county region like Jan '99.

You can add another 1,095 days for SEMI/DTX since this map in '22

 

[OrdIowPitMsp]

1 hour ago, Frog Town said:

If there's a place that's prepared for this last minute, it's your neck of the woods.  Congrats! 

Thanks, it’s other drivers who always worry me. MNDOT and the local agencies will do a fine job as always. 

[michsnowfreak]

19 minutes ago, RogueWaves said:

Technically NO, only 3 yrs since the pre-Christmas bomb. You know, the one that was forecast to bomb much earlier and actually be a legit bliz for The Mitt. Instead it finally got going good up in Canada and serious wind-driven +SN was confined to the usual LES Belts of both peninsulas. LP is way over-due for a wound-up powerhouse storm, to say nothing of a CAT-5 (20+) storm that delivers such to more than a couple county region like Jan '99.

You can add another 1,095 days for SEMI/DTX since this map in '22

 

They've issues some WSW that other offices would call blizzard warnings. Just like GRR with their advisory for a lake squall or 4-7" synoptic snow. I put little faith in the nws offices decision on what to issue

[mnchaserguy]

0z NAM ramping up even more


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[Powerball]

41 minutes ago, mnchaserguy said:

0z NAM ramping up even more


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[mnchaserguy]

 

Wow. Pretty crazy how much consistency there is among so many models.


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[Powerball]

6 minutes ago, mnchaserguy said:

Wow. Pretty crazy how much consistency there is among so many models.


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And the fact that they're all beefing up the totals in the 11th hour.

It's all going to come down to timing of the phase. A few hours delay (or sooner) could mean the difference between a run-of-the-mill snowstorm or a major blizzard for MSP.

Ceiling's fairly high though with the dynamics in place

[Powerball]

https://www.americanwx.com/bb/topic/62477-december-28th-29th-blizzard/

[KeenerWx]

Rather excited about 60’s and shot at thunder tomorrow. Love winter weather, but I’m not a purist with the season by any means. 

[Stevo6899]

Another December in the books without a legit snowfall around these parts. Zzzzz decembers becoming the norm. 

[Harry Perry]

1 hour ago, KeenerWx said:

Rather excited about 60’s and shot at thunder tomorrow. Love winter weather, but I’m not a purist with the season by any means. 

Hope the warm front ends up in Alpena