November 2025 OBS Discussion

[IrishRob17]

41 minutes ago, Sundog said:

How much difference can there be between ground level and 2 meters?

I remember when we had our burst of snow last week in the morning, my thermometer showed 33 degrees but I had a small puddle of water on a garden supplies container frozen. 

Lots of variables factor into this, like surface type, time of year, time of day but it can be more of a difference than people realize.

2 hours ago, bluewave said:

We have 10 days to see if places like NYC can have their first freeze of the season. Stations like HPN and ISP still haven’t had their first hard freeze at 28. Even more rural locations like FWN still haven’t dropped below 20°. So all of our stations are still in the top 5 warmest fall lows due to how warm North America has been this fall.

To that point, my lowest temp of the season occurred this morning and its only 25. Most years I'd have some lows in the teens by now. 

[eduggs]

3 minutes ago, IrishRob17 said:

To that point, my lowest temp of the season occurred this morning and its only 25. Most years I'd have some lows in the teens by now. 

For non-radiating locations right on the Hudson from northern Westchester to southern Dutchess, this fall has felt just about normal for the past 20 years. It's been consistently cool and not cold with a lot of wind. That should skew the radiating spots warm but less so the river towns.

[IrishRob17]

1 minute ago, eduggs said:

For non-radiating locations right on the Hudson from northern Westchester to southern Dutchess, this fall has felt just about normal for the past 20 years. It's been consistently cool and not cold with a lot of wind. That should skew the radiating spots warm but less so the river towns.

Agreed, the wind is certainly a factor as well as the timing of clouds moving in/out. There is no way to pin my stats on any one reason, they just are what they are.  

[psv88]

Never dipped below 30 last night. Looks warmish for the next week so we wait until December for the next freeze

[bluewave]

26 minutes ago, IrishRob17 said:

Lots of variables factor into this, like surface type, time of year, time of day but it can be more of a difference than people realize.

To that point, my lowest temp of the season occurred this morning and its only 25. Most years I'd have some lows in the teens by now. 

2018 and 2019 was really the last time we had any widespread significant November cold for much of the region. 


Lowest November temperatures across the region

Monthly Data for November 2025 for Upton NY NWS CWA 
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NY	MONTGOMERY ORANGE COUNTY AP	WBAN	24
CT	MERIDEN MARKHAM MUNICIPAL AP	WBAN	24
NY	PORT JERVIS	COOP	25
NJ	CHARLOTTEBURG RESERVOIR	COOP	25
CT	OXFORD WATERBURY	WBAN	25
NY	CARMEL 4N	COOP	25
NY	UPTON COOP - NWSFO NEW YORK	COOP	25
NY	SHRUB OAK	COOP	26
CT	DANBURY MUNICIPAL AP	WBAN	26
NY	BAITING HOLLOW	COOP	26
CT	GUILFORD	COOP	26
CT	GROTON NEW LONDON AP	WBAN	26
CT	DANBURY	COOP	27
CT	NEW HAVEN TWEED AP	WBAN	27
NY	SHIRLEY BROOKHAVEN AIRPORT	WBAN	27
CT	NORWICH PUBLIC UTILITY PLANT	COOP	27
NY	ST. JAMES	COOP	28
NY	WESTCHESTER CO AP	WBAN	29
NJ	CALDWELL ESSEX COUNTY AP	WBAN	30
NY	SYOSSET	COOP	30
NJ	HARRISON	COOP	31
NY	FARMINGDALE REPUBLIC AP	WBAN	31
CT	IGOR I SIKORSKY MEMORIAL AIRPORT	WBAN	31
NY	ISLIP-LI MACARTHUR AP	WBAN	31
NJ	TETERBORO AIRPORT	WBAN	32
NJ	TETERBORO AIRPORT	COOP	32
NY	CENTERPORT	COOP	32
NY	RIVERHEAD RESEARCH FARM	COOP	32
NJ	NEWARK LIBERTY INTL AP	WBAN	33
NY	NY CITY CENTRAL PARK	WBAN	33
NY	JFK INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT	WBAN	33
NY	LAGUARDIA AIRPORT	WBAN	34
NY	ORIENT POINT STATE PARK	COOP	34

 

Monthly Data for November 2018 for Upton NY NWS CWA
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NY	SHIRLEY BROOKHAVEN AIRPORT	WBAN	1
NY	PORT JERVIS	COOP	4
CT	DANBURY MUNICIPAL AP	WBAN	6
CT	OXFORD WATERBURY	WBAN	6
NY	WESTHAMPTON GABRESKI AP	WBAN	6
NJ	CHARLOTTEBURG RESERVOIR	COOP	7
NY	SHRUB OAK	COOP	7
NY	MONTGOMERY ORANGE COUNTY AP	WBAN	7
NY	CARMEL 4N	COOP	7
CT	DANBURY	COOP	9
CT	MOUNT CARMEL	COOP	9
CT	MERIDEN MARKHAM MUNICIPAL AP	WBAN	10
NJ	CALDWELL ESSEX COUNTY AP	WBAN	11
NY	WEST POINT	COOP	11
NY	WESTCHESTER CO AP	WBAN	11
CT	STAMFORD 5 N	COOP	12
CT	GROTON NEW LONDON AP	WBAN	12
NJ	NEWARK LIBERTY INTL AP	WBAN	13
NJ	CANOE BROOK	COOP	13
NJ	HARRISON	COOP	13
CT	IGOR I SIKORSKY MEMORIAL AIRPORT	WBAN	13
CT	NEW HAVEN TWEED AP	WBAN	13
NY	UPTON COOP - NWSFO NEW YORK	COOP	13
CT	GROTON	COOP	13
CT	NORWICH PUBLIC UTILITY PLANT	COOP	13
NJ	TETERBORO AIRPORT	WBAN	14
NY	FARMINGDALE REPUBLIC AP	WBAN	14
NY	MATTITUCK	COOP	14
NY	NY CITY CENTRAL PARK	WBAN	15
NY	JFK INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT	WBAN	15
NY	CENTERPORT	COOP	15
NY	ISLIP-LI MACARTHUR AP	WBAN	15
NY	BRIDGEHAMPTON	COOP	15
NY	ORIENT POINT STATE PARK	COOP	15
NY	BAITING HOLLOW	COOP	16
NY	LAGUARDIA AIRPORT	WBAN	17
NY	MOLLOY CERCOM	COOP	17
NY	RIVERHEAD RESEARCH FARM	COOP	17
NY	MOUNT SINAI	COOP	17
NY	MONTAUK AIRPORT	WBAN	19

 

Monthly Data for November 2025 for Mount Holly NJ NWS CWA
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PA	POCONO MOUNTAINS MUNICIPAL AIRPORT	WBAN	23
NJ	OCEAN COUNTY AIRPORT	WBAN	23
NJ	MILLVILLE MUNICIPAL AIRPORT	WBAN	24
PA	EAST STROUDSBURG	COOP	24
NJ	BELVIDERE BRIDGE	COOP	24
NJ	HIGHLAND LAKES 1SW	COOP	24
NJ	WERTSVILLE 4 NE	COOP	25
NJ	SUSSEX AIRPORT	WBAN	25
PA	MARTINS CREEK	COOP	25
PA	BLUE MARSH LAKE	COOP	26
NJ	SOMERSET AIRPORT	WBAN	26
PA	AVONDALE 2 N	WBAN	27
PA	SELLERSVILLE	COOP	27
PA	ALLENTOWN LEHIGH VALLEY INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT	WBAN	27
PA	BELTZVILLE DAM	COOP	27
PA	LEHIGHTON 1SSW	COOP	27
NJ	ESTELL MANOR	COOP	27
NJ	PHILADELPHIA/MT. HOLLY WFO	COOP	27
NJ	HIGHTSTOWN 2 W	COOP	27
NJ	EWING 3 WNW	COOP	27
NJ	FLEMINGTON 5 NNW	COOP	27
NJ	SCHOOLEY'S MOUNTAIN 1 SW	COOP	27
DE	GEORGETOWN-DELAWARE COASTAL AIRPORT	WBAN	28
DE	NEWARK AG FARM	COOP	28
PA	HERITAGE FIELD AIRPORT	WBAN	28
NJ	MOORESTOWN 4 E	COOP	28
NJ	SOUTH JERSEY REGIONAL AIRPORT	WBAN	28
PA	NESHAMINY FALLS	COOP	28
NJ	TRENTON-MERCER AIRPORT	WBAN	28
NJ	BOONTON 1 SE	COOP	28
PA	PHOENIXVILLE 1 E	COOP	29
NJ	ATLANTIC CITY INTL AP	WBAN	29
NJ	PHILLIPSBURG-EASTON BRIDGE	COOP	29
NJ	FREEHOLD-MARLBORO	COOP	29
NJ	NEW BRUNSWICK 3 SE	COOP	29
NJ	BELMAR FARMINGDALE ALLAIRE AP	WBAN	29
PA	READING REGIONAL AIRPORT	WBAN	30
DE	WILMINGTON AIRPORT	WBAN	30
NJ	SEABROOK FARMS	COOP	30
NJ	LONG BRANCH-OAKHURST	COOP	30
NJ	MANASQUAN 1 NW	COOP	30
NJ	PENNSAUKEN 1N	COOP	31
NJ	EB FORSYTHE NEW JERSEY	RAWS	31
DE	DOVER	COOP	32
MD	STEVENSVILLE 2SW	COOP	32
DE	LEWES	COOP	32
PA	PHILADELPHIA INTL AP	WBAN	32

 

Monthly Data for November 2018 for Mount Holly NJ NWS CWA
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PA	POCONO MOUNTAINS MUNICIPAL AIRPORT	WBAN	-2
NJ	SUSSEX 1 NW	COOP	5
NJ	SUSSEX AIRPORT	WBAN	6
PA	SPRINGTOWN 1 NNE	COOP	7
PA	EAST STROUDSBURG	COOP	7
NJ	BELVIDERE BRIDGE	COOP	7
PA	BELTZVILLE DAM	COOP	8
PA	LEHIGHTON 1SSW	COOP	8
NJ	AEROFLEX-ANDOVER AIRPORT	WBAN	8
NJ	HIGHTSTOWN 2 W	COOP	9
NJ	WERTSVILLE 4 NE	COOP	9
NJ	SOMERSET AIRPORT	WBAN	9
NJ	NEW BRUNSWICK 3 SE	COOP	9
PA	BLUE MARSH LAKE	COOP	10
PA	GRATERFORD 1 E	COOP	10
PA	SELLERSVILLE	COOP	10
PA	BUCKSVILLE	COOP	10
NJ	FLEMINGTON 5 NNW	COOP	10
NJ	FREEHOLD-MARLBORO	COOP	10
NJ	BOONTON 1 SE	COOP	10
PA	ALLENTOWN LEHIGH VALLEY INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT	WBAN	11
PA	HERITAGE FIELD AIRPORT	WBAN	11
PA	NESHAMINY FALLS	COOP	11
NJ	PHILLIPSBURG-EASTON BRIDGE	COOP	11
PA	DOYLESTOWN AIRPORT	WBAN	11
PA	HAMBURG	COOP	12
NJ	INDIAN MILLS 2 W	COOP	12
NJ	SOUTH JERSEY REGIONAL AIRPORT	WBAN	13
NJ	TRENTON-MERCER AIRPORT	WBAN	13
DE	WILMINGTON PORTER RES	COOP	14
PA	AVONDALE 2 N	WBAN	14
PA	READING REGIONAL AIRPORT	WBAN	14
PA	NORRISTOWN	COOP	14
PA	PHOENIXVILLE 1 E	COOP	14
NJ	HAMMONTON 1 NE	COOP	14
NJ	PHILADELPHIA/MT. HOLLY WFO	COOP	14
NJ	LONG BRANCH-OAKHURST	COOP	14
NJ	ATLANTIC CITY INTL AP	WBAN	15
NJ	SEABROOK FARMS	COOP	15
NJ	ESTELL MANOR	COOP	15
NJ	PENNSAUKEN 1N	COOP	15
DE	WILMINGTON AIRPORT	WBAN	16
NJ	MILLVILLE MUNICIPAL AIRPORT	WBAN	16
PA	PHILADELPHIA INTL AP	WBAN	16
NJ	CAPE MAY 2 NW	COOP	16
PA	NORTHEAST PHILADELPHIA AIRPORT	WBAN	16
NJ	EB FORSYTHE NEW JERSEY	RAWS	16
DE	DOVER	COOP	19
NJ	MARGATE	COOP	19
PA	PHILADELPHIA FRANKLIN INSTITUTE	COOP	20

[IrishRob17]

4 minutes ago, bluewave said:

2018 was really the last time we had any widespread significant November cold for much of the region. 
 

Monthly Data for November 2025 for Upton NY NWS CWA
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NY	MONTGOMERY ORANGE COUNTY AP	WBAN	24
CT	MERIDEN MARKHAM MUNICIPAL AP	WBAN	24
NY	PORT JERVIS	COOP	25
NJ	CHARLOTTEBURG RESERVOIR	COOP	25
CT	OXFORD WATERBURY	WBAN	25
NY	CARMEL 4N	COOP	25
NY	UPTON COOP - NWSFO NEW YORK	COOP	25
NY	SHRUB OAK	COOP	26
CT	DANBURY MUNICIPAL AP	WBAN	26
NY	BAITING HOLLOW	COOP	26
CT	GUILFORD	COOP	26
CT	GROTON NEW LONDON AP	WBAN	26
CT	DANBURY	COOP	27
CT	NEW HAVEN TWEED AP	WBAN	27
NY	SHIRLEY BROOKHAVEN AIRPORT	WBAN	27
CT	NORWICH PUBLIC UTILITY PLANT	COOP	27
NY	ST. JAMES	COOP	28
NY	WESTCHESTER CO AP	WBAN	29
NJ	CALDWELL ESSEX COUNTY AP	WBAN	30
NY	SYOSSET	COOP	30
NJ	HARRISON	COOP	31
NY	FARMINGDALE REPUBLIC AP	WBAN	31
CT	IGOR I SIKORSKY MEMORIAL AIRPORT	WBAN	31
NY	ISLIP-LI MACARTHUR AP	WBAN	31
NJ	TETERBORO AIRPORT	WBAN	32
NJ	TETERBORO AIRPORT	COOP	32
NY	CENTERPORT	COOP	32
NY	RIVERHEAD RESEARCH FARM	COOP	32
NJ	NEWARK LIBERTY INTL AP	WBAN	33
NY	NY CITY CENTRAL PARK	WBAN	33
NY	JFK INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT	WBAN	33
NY	LAGUARDIA AIRPORT	WBAN	34
NY	ORIENT POINT STATE PARK	COOP	34

 

Monthly Data for November 2018 for Upton NY NWS CWA
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NY	SHIRLEY BROOKHAVEN AIRPORT	WBAN	1
NY	PORT JERVIS	COOP	4
CT	DANBURY MUNICIPAL AP	WBAN	6
CT	OXFORD WATERBURY	WBAN	6
NY	WESTHAMPTON GABRESKI AP	WBAN	6
NJ	CHARLOTTEBURG RESERVOIR	COOP	7
NY	SHRUB OAK	COOP	7
NY	MONTGOMERY ORANGE COUNTY AP	WBAN	7
NY	CARMEL 4N	COOP	7
CT	DANBURY	COOP	9
CT	MOUNT CARMEL	COOP	9
CT	MERIDEN MARKHAM MUNICIPAL AP	WBAN	10
NJ	CALDWELL ESSEX COUNTY AP	WBAN	11
NY	WEST POINT	COOP	11
NY	WESTCHESTER CO AP	WBAN	11
CT	STAMFORD 5 N	COOP	12
CT	GROTON NEW LONDON AP	WBAN	12
NJ	NEWARK LIBERTY INTL AP	WBAN	13
NJ	CANOE BROOK	COOP	13
NJ	HARRISON	COOP	13
CT	IGOR I SIKORSKY MEMORIAL AIRPORT	WBAN	13
CT	NEW HAVEN TWEED AP	WBAN	13
NY	UPTON COOP - NWSFO NEW YORK	COOP	13
CT	GROTON	COOP	13
CT	NORWICH PUBLIC UTILITY PLANT	COOP	13
NJ	TETERBORO AIRPORT	WBAN	14
NY	FARMINGDALE REPUBLIC AP	WBAN	14
NY	MATTITUCK	COOP	14
NY	NY CITY CENTRAL PARK	WBAN	15
NY	JFK INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT	WBAN	15
NY	CENTERPORT	COOP	15
NY	ISLIP-LI MACARTHUR AP	WBAN	15
NY	BRIDGEHAMPTON	COOP	15
NY	ORIENT POINT STATE PARK	COOP	15
NY	BAITING HOLLOW	COOP	16
NY	LAGUARDIA AIRPORT	WBAN	17
NY	MOLLOY CERCOM	COOP	17
NY	RIVERHEAD RESEARCH FARM	COOP	17
NY	MOUNT SINAI	COOP	17
NY	MONTAUK AIRPORT	WBAN	19

 

Monthly Data for November 2025 for Mount Holly NJ NWS CWA
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PA	POCONO MOUNTAINS MUNICIPAL AIRPORT	WBAN	23
NJ	OCEAN COUNTY AIRPORT	WBAN	23
NJ	MILLVILLE MUNICIPAL AIRPORT	WBAN	24
PA	EAST STROUDSBURG	COOP	24
NJ	BELVIDERE BRIDGE	COOP	24
NJ	HIGHLAND LAKES 1SW	COOP	24
NJ	WERTSVILLE 4 NE	COOP	25
NJ	SUSSEX AIRPORT	WBAN	25
PA	MARTINS CREEK	COOP	25
PA	BLUE MARSH LAKE	COOP	26
NJ	SOMERSET AIRPORT	WBAN	26
PA	AVONDALE 2 N	WBAN	27
PA	SELLERSVILLE	COOP	27
PA	ALLENTOWN LEHIGH VALLEY INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT	WBAN	27
PA	BELTZVILLE DAM	COOP	27
PA	LEHIGHTON 1SSW	COOP	27
NJ	ESTELL MANOR	COOP	27
NJ	PHILADELPHIA/MT. HOLLY WFO	COOP	27
NJ	HIGHTSTOWN 2 W	COOP	27
NJ	EWING 3 WNW	COOP	27
NJ	FLEMINGTON 5 NNW	COOP	27
NJ	SCHOOLEY'S MOUNTAIN 1 SW	COOP	27
DE	GEORGETOWN-DELAWARE COASTAL AIRPORT	WBAN	28
DE	NEWARK AG FARM	COOP	28
PA	HERITAGE FIELD AIRPORT	WBAN	28
NJ	MOORESTOWN 4 E	COOP	28
NJ	SOUTH JERSEY REGIONAL AIRPORT	WBAN	28
PA	NESHAMINY FALLS	COOP	28
NJ	TRENTON-MERCER AIRPORT	WBAN	28
NJ	BOONTON 1 SE	COOP	28
PA	PHOENIXVILLE 1 E	COOP	29
NJ	ATLANTIC CITY INTL AP	WBAN	29
NJ	PHILLIPSBURG-EASTON BRIDGE	COOP	29
NJ	FREEHOLD-MARLBORO	COOP	29
NJ	NEW BRUNSWICK 3 SE	COOP	29
NJ	BELMAR FARMINGDALE ALLAIRE AP	WBAN	29
PA	READING REGIONAL AIRPORT	WBAN	30
DE	WILMINGTON AIRPORT	WBAN	30
NJ	SEABROOK FARMS	COOP	30
NJ	LONG BRANCH-OAKHURST	COOP	30
NJ	MANASQUAN 1 NW	COOP	30
NJ	PENNSAUKEN 1N	COOP	31
NJ	EB FORSYTHE NEW JERSEY	RAWS	31
DE	DOVER	COOP	32
MD	STEVENSVILLE 2SW	COOP	32
DE	LEWES	COOP	32
PA	PHILADELPHIA INTL AP	WBAN	32

 

Monthly Data for November 2018 for Mount Holly NJ NWS CWA
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PA	POCONO MOUNTAINS MUNICIPAL AIRPORT	WBAN	-2
NJ	SUSSEX 1 NW	COOP	5
NJ	SUSSEX AIRPORT	WBAN	6
PA	SPRINGTOWN 1 NNE	COOP	7
PA	EAST STROUDSBURG	COOP	7
NJ	BELVIDERE BRIDGE	COOP	7
PA	BELTZVILLE DAM	COOP	8
PA	LEHIGHTON 1SSW	COOP	8
NJ	AEROFLEX-ANDOVER AIRPORT	WBAN	8
NJ	HIGHTSTOWN 2 W	COOP	9
NJ	WERTSVILLE 4 NE	COOP	9
NJ	SOMERSET AIRPORT	WBAN	9
NJ	NEW BRUNSWICK 3 SE	COOP	9
PA	BLUE MARSH LAKE	COOP	10
PA	GRATERFORD 1 E	COOP	10
PA	SELLERSVILLE	COOP	10
PA	BUCKSVILLE	COOP	10
NJ	FLEMINGTON 5 NNW	COOP	10
NJ	FREEHOLD-MARLBORO	COOP	10
NJ	BOONTON 1 SE	COOP	10
PA	ALLENTOWN LEHIGH VALLEY INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT	WBAN	11
PA	HERITAGE FIELD AIRPORT	WBAN	11
PA	NESHAMINY FALLS	COOP	11
NJ	PHILLIPSBURG-EASTON BRIDGE	COOP	11
PA	DOYLESTOWN AIRPORT	WBAN	11
PA	HAMBURG	COOP	12
NJ	INDIAN MILLS 2 W	COOP	12
NJ	SOUTH JERSEY REGIONAL AIRPORT	WBAN	13
NJ	TRENTON-MERCER AIRPORT	WBAN	13
DE	WILMINGTON PORTER RES	COOP	14
PA	AVONDALE 2 N	WBAN	14
PA	READING REGIONAL AIRPORT	WBAN	14
PA	NORRISTOWN	COOP	14
PA	PHOENIXVILLE 1 E	COOP	14
NJ	HAMMONTON 1 NE	COOP	14
NJ	PHILADELPHIA/MT. HOLLY WFO	COOP	14
NJ	LONG BRANCH-OAKHURST	COOP	14
NJ	ATLANTIC CITY INTL AP	WBAN	15
NJ	SEABROOK FARMS	COOP	15
NJ	ESTELL MANOR	COOP	15
NJ	PENNSAUKEN 1N	COOP	15
DE	WILMINGTON AIRPORT	WBAN	16
NJ	MILLVILLE MUNICIPAL AIRPORT	WBAN	16
PA	PHILADELPHIA INTL AP	WBAN	16
NJ	CAPE MAY 2 NW	COOP	16
PA	NORTHEAST PHILADELPHIA AIRPORT	WBAN	16
NJ	EB FORSYTHE NEW JERSEY	RAWS	16
DE	DOVER	COOP	19
NJ	MARGATE	COOP	19
PA	PHILADELPHIA FRANKLIN INSTITUTE	COOP	20

In 2018 I didn't get my first teens low until Thanksgiving morning on 11/22. The low that morning was 11 followed by a low of 6 the following morning, that was chilly. Last November I didn't have any lows in the teens but I did get down to 23 on 11/13 and 21 11/14.

[Sundog]

18 minutes ago, eduggs said:

For non-radiating locations right on the Hudson from northern Westchester to southern Dutchess, this fall has felt just about normal for the past 20 years. It's been consistently cool and not cold with a lot of wind. That should skew the radiating spots warm but less so the river towns.

I have thoroughly enjoyed this fall, ever since the first week of October we have had a great classic fall stretch with no nasty torches to kill the autumnal mood.

The wind could have been lighter though, I have received an anomalously high number of texts from my wife saying, "why is it so fccking windy again" over the last several weeks lol

[IrishRob17]

3 minutes ago, Sundog said:

I have thoroughly enjoyed this fall, ever since the first week of October we have had a great classic fall stretch with no nasty torches to kill the autumnal mood.

The wind could have been lighter though, I have received an anomalously high number of texts from my wife saying, "why is it so fccking windy again" over the last several weeks lol

I agree with this, I've enjoyed this fall as well but my wife texts are "That wind tho"

[bluewave]

29 minutes ago, IrishRob17 said:

In 2018 I didn't get my first teens low until Thanksgiving morning on 11/22. The low that morning was 11 followed by a low of 6 the following morning, that was chilly. Last November I didn't have any lows in the teens but I did get down to 23 on 11/13 and 21 11/14.

We also got some record cold earlier in November 2019. Though the lows weren’t to the level of late in November 2018.

The big story in November 2019 for my area back on the GSB was how late the plants were booming with the 70° warmth earlier in the month. That October had the record mid 90s warmth. 

Our azalea was still in full bloom that November before the three nights in the low to mid 20s. The plant never came back the following spring due to the freeze damage.

[Krs4Lfe]

Looks like the day before Thanksgiving will be quite warm in NYC, around 60 degrees. Thanksgiving should be a little cooler, and then it seems like we go into a prolonged stretch of colder than normal temps from Black Friday through at least first 10 days of december (so around 2 weeks of below normal temps for at least the foreseeable future). Hopefully next Wednesday is last warm day for a while. 

[Krs4Lfe]

But yes, the coldest we've had in northeast Queens thus far is 33 degrees last week, around 6-7 am one of those days, I believe it was Veterans Day. Used to regularly have the first freeze by mid november, but most of the 2020s, it's been pushed back to December. First frost used to be late October, now it's been pushed back a few weeks as well. 

[FPizz]

1 hour ago, MJO812 said:

Like last year 

Plenty of cold but the pacific didnt cooperate. 

Yes, and even last year, 4"+ storm before Xmas for some nearby the city and same on Jan 19th.

[bluewave]

1 hour ago, TheClimateChanger said:

Do you think the atmosphere is still capable of producing 4" of snow in a single day at locations like New York and Pittsburgh (see below)? I noticed Pittsburgh has obliterated its longest stretch without 4" of snow, and this includes data from the downtown station that was a few hundred feet lower in elevation with a seasonal snowfall average of about ~12 inches less than the airport. So this is completely unprecedented since at least the 1870s. I have to wonder if the 40N parallel is simply too for south to see such heavy snow with the current atmospheric conditions? Maybe NYC will fare a little better being on the coast?

 

I think NYC will eventually see another 4” day. Not sure when though.

But the more impressive streak for NYC had been no March 10” daily snows since 1993.

It’s possible that the climate has warmed too much for that record to be reached again. 
 

1993-03-13

40

28

34.0

-7.8

31

0

2.37

10.2

 

[STORMANLI]

28°

Moderate Frost

[jm1220]

23 minutes ago, STORMANLI said:

28°

Moderate Frost

Frost was everywhere this morning here. 

[donsutherland1]

2 hours ago, TheClimateChanger said:

Do you think the atmosphere is still capable of producing 4" of snow in a single day at locations like New York and Pittsburgh (see below)? I noticed Pittsburgh has obliterated its longest stretch without 4" of snow, and this includes data from the downtown station that was a few hundred feet lower in elevation with a seasonal snowfall average of about ~12 inches less than the airport. So this is completely unprecedented since at least the 1870s. I have to wonder if the 40N parallel is simply too for south to see such heavy snow with the current atmospheric conditions? Maybe NYC will fare a little better being on the coast?

 

Yes. Since 2020, Pittsburgh has had 7 such days while New York City has had 6. Temperatures have not warmed so sharply and abruptly that such storms are precluded. I suspect that this winter will see at least one such day in both cities.

[Dark Star]

39 minutes ago, jm1220 said:

Frost was everywhere this morning here. 

Same here in Garwood NJ, Central Union County