Winter cancelled/uncancelled banter 25/26

[CPcantmeasuresnow]

6 hours ago, Roger Smith said:

I don't know who may win the Super Bowl but in the Snow Bowl the current score is

BOS 39.5 __ SEA 0.0

(inches of snow to date this winter)

Neither is far from their seasonal norms atm.  Boston averages about 47 inches a year, Seattle averages about 7. I'm glad the game didn't turnout like the snowfall averages. 

[forkyfork]

hot weather is absolutely more tolerable than cold. how can people live where most of the winter is like the past two weeks

[BxEngine]

Youve never had an outdoor job i presume

[forkyfork]

i can actually move my fingers when it's hot outside

[rclab]

2 hours ago, forkyfork said:

hot weather is absolutely more tolerable than cold. how can people live where most of the winter is like the past two weeks

 

50 minutes ago, BxEngine said:

Youve never had an outdoor job i presume

 

3 minutes ago, forkyfork said:

i can actually move my fingers when it's hot outside

I most certainly hope so …….. As always ….

 

[BxEngine]

13 hours ago, forkyfork said:

i can actually move my fingers when it's hot outside

Inside on a computer in air conditioning? Lol

[qg_omega]

Wow

[jm1220]

20 hours ago, forkyfork said:

hot weather is absolutely more tolerable than cold. how can people live where most of the winter is like the past two weeks

Try living through a Texas summer like I did (twice) and get back to me. Absolutely horrendous. 

[forkyfork]

5 hours ago, BxEngine said:

Inside on a computer in air conditioning? Lol

start restricting calories now and your body will be more heat tolerant by summer

[forkyfork]

Excess weight can have a significant adverse impact on these natural cooling mechanisms. A study published in the specialist journal Nature in 2018 indicated that there is a positive correlation between obesity and body temperature in men and postmenopausal women. Researchers found that not only do subcutaneous fat reserves act as a layer of insulation, hindering heat exchange and therefore the cooling process, but that overweight people produce more heat. On the one hand, the higher body mass increases the basal metabolic rate and, on the other, the metabolically active adipose tissue results in the secretion of numerous hormones and semiochemicals that affect heat regulation. 

Further studies revealed that physical activity undertaken by obese people at high temperatures result in a higher rise in body temperature and heart rate than people of an average weight – and are therefore placed under greater strain. 

https://www.seca.com/en_us/company/stories/details/article/caution-with-obesity-in-the-summer-heat.html

[BxEngine]

Work outside. Tell me which is worse. Ill take the cold every time. But sure, go with the insults instead. 

[rclab]

On 2/9/2026 at 2:21 PM, forkyfork said:

i can actually move my fingers when it's hot outside

 

4 hours ago, forkyfork said:

start restricting calories now and your body will be more heat tolerant by summer

 

4 hours ago, forkyfork said:

Excess weight can have a significant adverse impact on these natural cooling mechanisms. A study published in the specialist journal Nature in 2018 indicated that there is a positive correlation between obesity and body temperature in men and postmenopausal women. Researchers found that not only do subcutaneous fat reserves act as a layer of insulation, hindering heat exchange and therefore the cooling process, but that overweight people produce more heat. On the one hand, the higher body mass increases the basal metabolic rate and, on the other, the metabolically active adipose tissue results in the secretion of numerous hormones and semiochemicals that affect heat regulation. 

Further studies revealed that physical activity undertaken by obese people at high temperatures result in a higher rise in body temperature and heart rate than people of an average weight – and are therefore placed under greater strain. 

https://www.seca.com/en_us/company/stories/details/article/caution-with-obesity-in-the-summer-heat.html

 

1 hour ago, BxEngine said:

Work outside. Tell me which is worse. Ill take the cold every time. But sure, go with the insults instead. 

Just a thought forky…. Sometimes even an unintended lapse in civility can have unforeseen results. As always ….

 

[IrishRob17]

1 hour ago, BxEngine said:

Work outside. Tell me which is worse. Ill take the cold every time. But sure, go with the insults instead. 

Physical labor is hard! And you want people to do it outside?! How dare you Sir!

[PhiEaglesfan712]

On 2/4/2026 at 5:39 PM, CPcantmeasuresnow said:

I still find it so disappointing the way 2010/2011 seemed like it was on its way to break all the snowfall records and just died. 
Still a great winter overall for most but the last six weeks a big disappointment for many.  

2010 and 2011 are the ultimate regress to the mean seasons. Both years had so much snow in little time, but ended rather abruptly. Late spring/early summer absolutely torched during those years, and many all-time hot records were broken during those two years (2012 as well, but that winter never really happened that year, outside of a freak late October snowstorm).

[forkyfork]

1 hour ago, BxEngine said:

Work outside. Tell me which is worse. Ill take the cold every time. But sure, go with the insults instead. 

i'm supposed to feel less comfortable during hot weather because outdoor workers exist? lol

[Santa Claus]

i watched DPW replace a water main all day saturday that looked like something you do as part of a guilty plea

[hudsonvalley21]

7 minutes ago, IrishRob17 said:

Physical labor is hard! And you want people to do it outside?! How dare you Sir!

 

[North and West]

Excess weight can have a significant adverse impact on these natural cooling mechanisms. A study published in the specialist journal Nature in 2018 indicated that there is a positive correlation between obesity and body temperature in men and postmenopausal women. Researchers found that not only do subcutaneous fat reserves act as a layer of insulation, hindering heat exchange and therefore the cooling process, but that overweight people produce more heat. On the one hand, the higher body mass increases the basal metabolic rate and, on the other, the metabolically active adipose tissue results in the secretion of numerous hormones and semiochemicals that affect heat regulation. 
Further studies revealed that physical activity undertaken by obese people at high temperatures result in a higher rise in body temperature and heart rate than people of an average weight – and are therefore placed under greater strain. 
https://www.seca.com/en_us/company/stories/details/article/caution-with-obesity-in-the-summer-heat.html

I know you’re a hater but very smart, but what are you trying to accomplish by insulting people?


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[coastalplainsnowman]

Would anyone have insight into what is going on with the hourly readings at KFRG (Farmingdale) and KISP (MacArthur/Islip Airport)?

1. Noticed a few days ago that there will often be four or five consecutive hours with the temperature unchanged, for example the past four hours at KFRG have been 30.9.

2. That's another thing - sometimes the temps are whole numbers, sometimes they're to the tenth of a degree.  And there are far too many whole numbers to be chalked up to the temp being at the whole number and the decimal being dropped.  It's like sometimes it's measured to the tenth, and sometimes it's not.

3. When did temps start being reported at all in tenth increments?  I could well have missed it, but I don't recall ever seeing that.

4. I started noticing that the KFRG temp was quite different from my local temp fairly nearby, when it used to track quite closely. Today  when I went to the KISP page I see that the temperatures are identical to KFRG, as if the KFRG numbers are literally KISP's.

What gives?

 

Edit:  Here are the links to the KFRG and KISP 3 day history pages, respectively:

KFRG:  https://forecast.weather.gov/data/obhistory/KFRG.html

KISP: https://forecast.weather.gov/data/obhistory/KISP.html

[mriceyman]

NYC will finish this winter with below average snowfall. We won't see another flake until next winter. February 2026 was one of the biggest rug pulls ever

$100 says we get another inch .. game on?


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[coastalplainsnowman]

1 hour ago, mriceyman said:

$100 says we get another inch .. game on?


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You should clarify you mean at least another inch or someone's going to look to collect if we get 3".

[donsutherland1]

Some further commentary in the wake of the ECMWF-AIFS's now consistently outperforming the ECMWF and Google DeepMind's rapid improvement in hurricane track forecasting on how I expect AI to transform the meteorological space over the next decade or two. My thoughts follow with the caveat that I do not possess a crystal ball. This is based largely on how AI has evolved very recently and the assumption that further improvements and integration with other technologies will occur.

Prompt libraries executed by agentic AI would interpret/translate modeled outcomes at a local and even hyper-local street-by-street level, generate basic and customized maps/visualizations by tapping into Python and other programming libraries, disseminate a wide range of personalized information through Apps, etc. This will radically change existing value propositions. It would shift substantial value to the public and consumers/users of weather information. It would also upend business models based on charging for maps and graphics that are often based on freely available raw data simply due to the public's lack of access to the ability to generate such graphics on their own (programming knowledge to software).

The evolution of AI would also dramatically change the nature of the meteorology profession from routine forecasting to communication of risk/uncertainty, mesoscale/microscale specialist, emergency response consulting, research, etc. I suspect that fairly routine things like 7-day forecasts, marine forecasts, hourly forecasts will be largely automated in a decade or two. Humans will focus more on communicating risk, identifying rare outcomes that could lie outside the AIs' training, advising proactive responses (evacuations, school closures/delays, etc.), and providing judgment in complex situations. AI would largely devalue the hype-based business models that have proliferated on social media to the detriment of professional credibility and public well-being, as the AI-driven outcomes available at little or no cost would be vastly superior to the hypecasters' products, services, and click-bait. Moreover, the AIs will allow users to verify the accuracy of the AI-driven forecasts enhancing credibility for the AI products/services.

AI will also integrate large amounts of additional information to provide impacts assessments. AI will translate weather data into information concerning supply chain disruptions, energy demand, insurance exposure, traffic patterns, effects on crops, etc. These AI-driven impact models will likely be offered by major AI companies (Google, etc.) at much lower cost than under today's business models. That will also shift value to the AI companies who will be providing the service and the users of such information who will benefit from discounted pricing. Second order effects could also be unlocked for consumers of products/services (grocery prices, energy prices, etc.).

In the end, this won't be the first time that technological change led to broad transformation. Almost certainly, it won't be the last time, either.