July 2025 Obs/Disco ... possible historic month for heat

[Damage In Tolland]

7 minutes ago, dendrite said:

Highs today. PSM and PBG win with 96°

I may have to pull the PBG MADIS charts out later.

Ineedsnow had 90’s around him for hundreds of miles and he likely did hit it .. yet today was meh for heat  

[Typhoon Tip]

5 minutes ago, kdxken said:

I mentioned nothing about the actual temperatures. Posted no meso temperatures. What I did mention was the national weather service heat index warning. Which was for 96°.  See below after the word what:

 

 

 

Dude, I did not say you mentioned anything about the temperatures. Why are you playing this fucked up verbal game - you’re trying to evade the fact that you were wrong by making this some other argument

This is what you said exactly and it was silly 

”Kind of a wimpy heat advisory though. 96 hi? That's your average summer day in Florida. ” which I responded to, clearly, by context.

I don’t really care, but I can’t stand when people try to gaslight - it’s a separate thing, not related to any kind of temperature debate, which there was none 

 

 

[Torch Tiger]

this is normal summer, not sure what the big deal is.  lol  the weird arguments about heat index and etc.  haha

concerning noaa box/gyx etc., the advisories were more than justified.  lol

[FXWX]

7 hours ago, Damage In Tolland said:

From the prolific lightning storm on July 1. This was a top one for me.Sound up ! 
 

@FXWX

@weatherwiz

 https://ring.com/share/8241075f-eb3a-4d8e-aeda-53de2581ec00

 

I've had a couple of those in the last 4 years living on Johnnycake!  Exhilarating, but scares the crap out of you!

[Typhoon Tip]

Meh only one stroke 

LOL

[HIPPYVALLEY]

26 minutes ago, HoarfrostHubb said:

Did Greenfield have fireworks on the 4th and 5th?  
No towns around me were doing them either night but I heard distant ones from the west.  
I doubt I would be able to hear them from Greenfield. 

Big display in Greenfield last night by Atlas Fireworks. 

 

[kdxken]

12 minutes ago, Typhoon Tip said:

Dude, I did not say you mentioned anything about the temperatures. Why are you playing this fucked up verbal game - you’re trying to evade the fact that you were wrong by making this some other argument

This is what you said exactly and it was silly 

”Kind of a wimpy heat advisory though. 96 hi? That's your average summer day in Florida. ” which I responded to, clearly, by context.

I don’t really care, but I can’t stand when people try to gaslight - it’s a separate thing, not related to any kind of temperature debate, which there was none 

 

 

 Tell me what I was gaslighting?

[powderfreak]

28 minutes ago, dendrite said:

Highs today. PSM and PBG win with 96°

I may have to pull the PBG MADIS charts out later.

Worth checking on PBG.

The 100F degree day fit on the westerly winds off the Adirondacks and associated obs.  However, I’ve paid attention to weather up here for over two decades now and haven’t seen that happen before.  In the moment it synoptically made sense, but why hadn’t it happened in any air mass before?

Now a 96F while BTV is 92F?  The BTV ob is in line with the MVL and MPV obs (MPV higher, so usually the coolest max of the 3).

But the PGB obs buck a multi-decade trend.  PBG is historically a degree or so cooler than BTV.

[DavisStraight]

Treehouse put on a good show Friday, they charged $20 per car but you could see them for miles so didn't need to pay to see. We saw them in Oxford.

[Typhoon Tip]

5 minutes ago, powderfreak said:

Worth checking on PBG.

The 100F degree day fit on the westerly winds off the Adirondacks and associated obs.  However, I’ve paid attention to weather up here for over two decades now and haven’t seen that happen before.  In the moment it synoptically made sense, but why hadn’t it happened in any air mass before?

Now a 96F while BTV is 92F?  The BTV ob is in line with the MVL and MPV obs (MPV higher, so usually the coolest max of the 3).

But the PGB obs buck a multi-decade trend.  PBG is historically a degree or so cooler than BTV.

Could be instrumentation though?
It seems like these national weather service temp instruments are prone to slipping their calibration or something. 

[powderfreak]

2 minutes ago, Typhoon Tip said:

Could be instrumentation though?
It seems like these national weather service temp instruments are prone to slipping their calibration or something. 

For sure, wandering instrument is most likely and that’s why I said it was worth checking out.  Sorry if that wasn’t clear.

PBG, the dews did drop into the mid/upper 50s while the temp spiked on west wind.

Instead of 88/70 it was 96/57?

Thermodynamically it works but that station isn’t known for doing that, despite being in the shadow of the Adirondacks.  Maybe something changed around the site allowing better mixing?

Or the sensor is just off, haha.

[ineedsnow]

1 hour ago, Damage In Tolland said:

You do know Junorch was right? Do you think that month was hot?

actually wasnt that bad

[Typhoon Tip]

21 minutes ago, kdxken said:

 Tell me what I was gaslighting?

You need to say this sentence to me otherwise we’re not having this conversation further:

‘I should not have used an isolated area of northern Connecticut to characterize a total situation that was in fact hotter.’

The fact that you tried to do that comes off as gaslighting… Maybe it was maybe it wasn’t. I hate it when people fiddle with facts. It’s like gerrymandering reality

Maybe you’re just one of these people that thinks their backyard represents everywhere. I don’t know, but I didn’t think you were that dumb either

Because you use something tactically to manipulate or attempt to manipulate somebody to thinking of a reality that wasn’t so 

[Typhoon Tip]

4 minutes ago, powderfreak said:

For sure, wandering instrument is most likely and that’s why I said it was worth checking out.  Sorry if that wasn’t clear.

PBG, the dews did drop into the mid/upper 50s while the temp spiked on west wind.

Instead of 88/70 it was 96/57?

Thermodynamically it works but that station isn’t known for doing that, despite being in the shadow of the Adirondacks.  Maybe something changed around the site allowing better mixing?

Or the sensor is just off, haha.

Agreed… But you know we’re also getting these strange heat things everywhere. I’ll just leave it at that.

[ineedsnow]

@Damage In Tolland June was only 1.3 above average for highs.. not a torch here

[ineedsnow]

41 minutes ago, Damage In Tolland said:

Ineedsnow had 90’s around him for hundreds of miles and he likely did hit it .. yet today was meh for heat  

87   we meh

[ineedsnow]

41 minutes ago, Torch Tiger said:

this is normal summer, not sure what the big deal is.  lol  the weird arguments about heat index and etc.  haha

concerning noaa box/gyx etc., the advisories were more than justified.  lol

This world has become soft

[powderfreak]

6 minutes ago, ineedsnow said:

This world has become soft

This is not a "become" issue.  It has always been this way with weather headlines.  We are reading too much into this as an Advisory .

A wind advisory is breezy.  A heat advisory is warm.  A wind chill advisory is cold.

None of it is necessarily out of the normal range/distribution of the seasonable weather, but those headlines (for decades) have been used to notify people it's going to be a bit outside the comfortable range.  You notice it when you go outside, but it's easily managed.

[CoastalWx]

11 minutes ago, ineedsnow said:

@Damage In Tolland June was only 1.3 above average for highs.. not a torch here

Back half was a furnace 

[HoarfrostHubb]

1 minute ago, CoastalWx said:

Back half was a furnace 

Indeed.  That 4 day stretch was nails. 
 

but the first half was pretty cool

[kdxken]

7 minutes ago, ineedsnow said:

This world has become soft

Just our area. Indianapolis, Savannah, Atlanta all had heat indexes similar to ours with no heat advisory. 

[HoarfrostHubb]

A +19.2 day in summer is pretty damn hot. 
I doubt we see that again this summer. 

[kdxken]

21 minutes ago, Typhoon Tip said:

You need to say this sentence to me otherwise we’re not having this conversation further:

‘I should not have used an isolated area of northern Connecticut to characterize a total situation that was in fact hotter.’

The fact that you tried to do that comes off as gaslighting… Maybe it was maybe it wasn’t. I hate it when people fiddle with facts. It’s like gerrymandering reality

Maybe you’re just one of these people that thinks their backyard represents everywhere. I don’t know, but I didn’t think you were that dumb either

Because you use something tactically to manipulate or attempt to manipulate somebody to thinking of a reality that wasn’t so 

Only problem Tip , I never mentioned Northern Connecticut before our discussion and your reply. In fact, I mentioned southborough and Southern New Hampshire which were hotter than most.  Maybe you confused me with someone else. We good...

 

 

[kdxken]

My apologies tip I see where you've got the Northern Connecticut. It was from the advisory but that was for all of Massachusetts and Connecticut. It just so happened that that's where the screen print was cut off. Certainly wasn't devious on my part. I could have included all the other counties.

[Typhoon Tip]

4 minutes ago, kdxken said:

Only problem Tip , I never mentioned Northern Connecticut before our discussion and your reply. In fact, I mentioned southborough and Southern New Hampshire which were hotter than most.  Maybe you confused me with someone else. We good...

 

 

Yes, you did
You posted that excerpt placing that Connecticut shit in the center of the image

of course you did

 

Jesus you won’t quit with this goddamn gaslighting crap

shut the fuck up

[kdxken]

Just now, Typhoon Tip said:

Yes, you did
You posted that excerpt placing that Connecticut shit in the center of the image

of course you did

 

Jesus you won’t quit with this goddamn gaslighting crap

shut the fuck up

See post above

[ineedsnow]

13 minutes ago, CoastalWx said:

Back half was a furnace 

Front half was a fridge 

[Typhoon Tip]

2 minutes ago, kdxken said:

See post above

Oh. Lol

okay

[kdxken]

Just now, Typhoon Tip said:

Oh. Lol

okay

I'm actually laughing out loud. That's how wars get started

[HoarfrostHubb]

What a treat to have a 3 day holiday weekend without rain.