July 2025 Discussion-OBS - seasonable summer variability

[Brian5671]

1 minute ago, bluewave said:

Nuisance drizzle but no relief from the recent dry pattern and having to water the garden to keep it going.

Very dry here-lawns going brown quickly.   Monday looks inland for showers as well.

[SACRUS]

 

Records:

Highs:

EWR: 100 (1966)
NYC: 101 (1966)
LGA: 99 (1966)
JFK: 94 (1992)
New Brnsck: 98 (1894)



Lows:

EWR: 57 (1940)
NYC: 54 (1888)
LGA: 58 (1990)
JFK: 58 (1990)
New Brnsck: 52 (1923)


Historical:

 

1895 - A tornado struck Cherry Hill in New Jersey causing fifty thousand dollars damage. It also descended into the Harlem and Woodhaven areas of New York City killing one person, and finally ended as a waterspout in Jamaica Bay. (David Ludlum)

1922: The mercury hit 134 °F at Greenland Ranch in Death Valley, CA on July 10, 1913 the hottest reading of record for the World. The old world record has been revoked. Sandstorm conditions accompanied the heat. The high the previous day was 129° following a morning low of 93 degrees. The previous world record of 136 °F at El Azizia, Libya has been revoked The World Meteorological Organization (WMO)committee concluded that "the most compelling scenario for the July 13,1922 event was that a new and inexperienced observer, not trained in the use of an unsuitable replacement instrument that could be easily misread, improperly recorded the observation and was consequently in error by about seven degrees Celsius."  Death Valley is now the Earth's Highest Temperature Record

1936: Mio, Michigan : The highest temperature ever recorded in Michigan: 112 °F. Dells, Wisconsin : The highest temperature ever recorded in Wisconsin : 114 °F. (Ref. Lowest and Highest Temperatures for the 50 States) (Ref. Additional Temperatures Listed On This Link)

1951: Rivers across eastern Kansas crest well above flood stage, causing the most significant destruction from flooding in the Midwestern United States at that time. Five-hundred-thousand people were left homeless, and 24 people died in the disaster. Click HERE for more information from the History Channel. 

1964: Clouds, rain and a cool northeast wind holds the high temperatures in the upper 50s to mid 60s across West Michigan. The high of 59° at Grand Rapids, MI was only the second time in over a hundred years of record that the temperature did not reach 60° on a July day. Early morning lows dropped in ot the lower and middle 30’s across parts of the northern Plains. (Ref. Wilson Wx. History)
 

1975 - Dover, DE, was deluged with 8.50 inches of rain to establish a 24 hour record for the state. (The Weather Channel)

1977 - Lightning struck a key electrical transmission line in Westchester County of southeastern New York State plunging New York City into darkness. (David Ludlum)

1980 - Afternoon highs of 108 degrees at Memphis, TN, 108 degrees at Macon, GA, and 105 degrees at Atlanta, GA, established all-time records for those three cities. The high of 110 degrees at Newington, GA, was just two degrees shy of the state record. (The Weather Channel)

1982: Lightning struck a woman in Chesterfield County, VA . She was sitting on a metal swing set in her back yard, and though she could hear thunder, she did not go indoors. She heard a loud noise and felt pain. Lightning struck the swing set and traveled through her body to the ground. Her shoes were blown off her feet and she received burns on her back and legs.  (Ref. Lightning - Virginia Weather History)

1987 - Unseasonably cool weather prevailed across the Midwest. Ten cities reported record low temperatures for the date, including Casper, WY, with a reading of 39 degrees. By way of contrast, record heat was reported in the eastern U.S., with highs of 93 degrees at Burlington, VT, and 101 degrees around Miami, FL. (The National Weather Summary)

1988 - There were just three reports of severe weather across the country, and just one record high temperature reported. Thunderstorms brought much needed rains to the Tennessee Valley area, producing nine inches at Senatobia, MS. (The National Weather Summary)

1989 - A thunderstorm at Albany, GA, produced 1.40 inches of rain in forty minutes, along with wind gusts to 82 mph. Afternoon highs of 98 degrees at Corpus Christi, TX, 110 degrees at Tucson, AZ, and 114 degrees at Phoenix, AZ, equalled records for the date. Greenwood, MS, reported 55.65 inches of precipitation for the year, twice the amount normally received by mid July. (Storm Data) (The National Weather Summary)

 

1993: Heavy rains of 3 to 5 inches in an hour caused flooding of streets and roads at Dodge City, KS. Standing water of one and a half to two feet was reported in southwestern Dodge City. In south central Kansas, heavy rains in Kiowa County caused widespread flooding and as much as 8 inches of rain was reported in portions of the county. The Rattlesnake Creek was out of its banks throughout the county and was reported to be as wide as five miles near the Edwards county line. Railroad tracks were washed out south of Kiowa County Lake. The water subsided around 5 AM the next day.  Major flooding on the Mississippi River produced a record river crest at Quincy, IL of 32.3 feet; eclipsing the old record of 28.9 feet set in April 1973. At mid-month, only 5 of 28 bridges that cross the river into Illinois were open. (Ref. Wilson Wx. History)

1995: Many daily record high temperatures and three all time record highs were recorded as the deadly July 1995 heat wave continued unabated from the Midwest to the Atlantic coast. All time highs set included: Genoa, WI: 109°, Milwaukee, WI: 108°, La Crosse, WI: tied at 108°, Chicago, IL: 106°, Necedah, WI: 104°, Trempealeau, WI: 103°, Decorah, IA: 102° and Guttenberg, IA: 102°. Heat indices soared to well over 120° in many areas and close to 130° at Chicago, IL & Cedar Rapids, IA as dew point temperatures were in the upper 70’s to low 80’s. 553 people died in Chicago alone from the heat. (Ref. Wilson Wx. History)

1996: Annandale Weather Center had 2.11 inches rain in 24 hours from Hurricane Bertha. (Ref. Annandale Weather Records - KRIC)(Ref. More information about Hurricane Bertha)

2002: Winds up to 80 mph swept through Kingman, AZ damaged or destroyed dozens of homes. Four people were also injured from flying debris. In Chloride, winds were estimated at 100 mph which caused significant damage. (Ref. Wilson Wx. History)

2004: A violent tornado quickly developed across Woodford County, Illinois during the mid afternoon. This tornado was at F4 intensity as it demolished a manufacturing plant four miles west of Roanoke. Although 140 people were inside at the time, all escaped injury by reaching storm shelters a few minutes before the tornado's arrival. Steel beams and metal siding from the plant were found approximately three quarters of a mile east in a farm field.  (Ref. Wilson Wx. History)

2008: A streak of 24 consecutive days (ending August 5th) of 90° or higher began on this date at Denver, CO. This shattered their previous record of 18 days established in 1901 and 1974. (Ref. Wilson Wx. History)
 

[SACRUS]

 

Pokes of sun with low level clouds east to west and higher clouds west to east movement

 

[SACRUS]

 

Heaviest rains targeting just W and SW of the area the next 7 days and FL with potential tropical development in the Gulf / Pan Handle

 

[SACRUS]

 

So far only 20% but a very wet / active FL the next 7 days

 

[Sundog]

9 minutes ago, bluewave said:

Nuisance drizzle but no relief from the recent dry pattern and having to water the garden to keep it going.

Yea this just enough to make outdoor activities miserable but not provide any rain deficit relief. 

[Brian5671]

Just now, Sundog said:

Yea this just enough to make outdoor activities miserable but not provide any rain deficit relief. 

looks like it burns off by mid-day

[bluewave]

11 minutes ago, Brian5671 said:

Very dry here-lawns going brown quickly.   Monday looks inland for showers as well.

Looks like the best convection should stay just inland from the coast for at least the near term.

 

[Sundog]

9 minutes ago, Brian5671 said:

looks like it burns off by mid-day

By mid day my kids don't want to go the beach lol

We like to go early, like 10AM

[Brian5671]

1 minute ago, Sundog said:

By mid day my kids don't want to go the beach lol

We like to go early, like 10AM

I remember those days....we'd go have breakfast down there and be back by mid-day

[TheClimateChanger]

 

[winterwarlock]

24 minutes ago, Brian5671 said:

looks like it burns off by mid-day

Damage is already done for us day trippers

[bluewave]

30 minutes ago, Sundog said:

Yea this just enough to make outdoor activities miserable but not provide any rain deficit relief. 

Already seeing some breaks of sun down in Long Beach.

 

 

[jm1220]

2 hours ago, LongBeachSurfFreak said:

Sheet drizzle and fog at the beach this morning. So much for the great beach weekend…

Our options this summer are backdoor gunk or Miami. 

[FPizz]

21 hours ago, Sundog said:

Interesting. You want people to live at a lower standard than we currently have here apparently because that's one solution to climate change? But we also want as many people to come to the US and therefore adopt that standard of living which would result in an increase of emissions?

Can't have it both ways. 

Is there a way for people to live at the standard of the average American and fix climate change? Because I'll tell you right now every single Chinese person (and everyone else around the world) wants to live at that standard and you can't do anything about it. 

Telling them they're noble because they live like peasants isn't going to convince them to forego their aspirations to live at the average standard of an American. 

 

[Sundog]

29 minutes ago, bluewave said:

Already seeing some breaks of sun down in Long Beach.

 

 

Sadly I'm in Jersey where the drizzle and mist only stopped like 15 minutes ago and still looks gloomy and wet

[Sundog]

And just as I typed that it started raining again :/

[Jersey Andrew]

Does anyone have a graphic on rising humidity levels over past 40 years? These summers in Mid-Atlantic and Northeast have become Florida-like and much more unbearable than the 1980s when I was growing up.

[Sundog]

5 minutes ago, Jersey Andrew said:

Does anyone have a graphic on rising humidity levels over past 40 years? These summers in Mid-Atlantic and Northeast have become Florida-like and much more unbearable than the 1980s when I was growing up.

Florida weather without the Florida beaches. 

What a lose lose that is lol

[Sundog]

To be fair all these ocean facing beaches kind of suck unless you're a surfer or something. 

In summer growing up I would spent the whole of July and August in Greece with family. Calm crystal clear water, low humidity, and maybe you'd see rain two or three times the whole two months. 

The weather and beaches here are not that good sadly.   

[Stormlover74]

Heading out west today. Will be nice to escape this weather and enjoy 60s and 70s all week!

[bluewave]

27 minutes ago, Sundog said:

To be fair all these ocean facing beaches kind of suck unless you're a surfer or something. 

In summer growing up I would spent the whole of July and August in Greece with family. Calm crystal clear water, low humidity, and maybe you'd see rain two or three times the whole two months. 

The weather and beaches here are not that good sadly.   

I grew up in Long Beach and mostly went to the beach for bodyboarding and bodysurfing. So I didn’t mind the occasional low clouds and foggy starts to the days.

Some of the best wave conditions were on cloudy days with only intermittent breaks of sun. Plus those were some of the best days for the locals since it kept the big beach crowds away. Parking was always a big issue there. Many days there start out cloudy only to finish up sunny once the marine layer burns off.

The Mediterranean is a whole different game with the drier conditions in places like Greece this time of year. One of my friends growing up was from Greece. His father owned several Greek restaurants in Long Beach over the years. They were a great family and wound up moving back to Greece. 

[Wannabehippie]

1 hour ago, SACRUS said:

 

So far only 20% but a very wet / active FL the next 7 days

 

I mean it is summer, it pretty much always is wet/active in Florida in July.

[winterwx21]

27 minutes ago, Stormlover74 said:

Heading out west today. Will be nice to escape this weather and enjoy 60s and 70s all week!

Nice, have a great vacation! 

[winterwx21]

Despite all the humidity with rain chances almost every day, it has become very dry here. I'm having to water the vegetable garden very often now. Tomorrow was advertised as a more active day, but I see HRRR and NAM 3km keep most of the activity to the north and west. I hope we see a downpour, but I'm not very optimistic. 

[anthonymm]

14 hours ago, Sundog said:

That's the worst part. High dews and high lows.

I'd take mid 90s every day if it meant dews stay in the 50s or below and lows bottomed out in the mid 60s. 

Pretty much all the lows have been affected region wide, in every season. Compared to say 80s climate normals our overnight lows are 5-6 degrees warmer now, regardless of the season. Crazy shit especially for only a 40 year difference.

[anthonymm]

11 hours ago, FPizz said:

Happens in plenty places outside the park, who cares except for the homeless that sleep there?

Well if you are one of the 8+ million people that live in new york city proper, or the surrounding urban areas like Jersey City and Hoboken, you never get a nice refreshing night anymore. That seems like kinda a big deal.

[anthonymm]

9 hours ago, JerseyWx said:

Our summers have always been hazy, hot and humid.  That's just typical Jersey and New York climate.  Yes I know that it has gotten worse, with dewpoints averaging higher than they used to, but it's not like we were ever arid like the high desert out west.

We used to get overnight lows in the 60s, even in midsummer. That literally NEVER happens now and thats frankly insane.

[Stormlover74]

17 minutes ago, winterwx21 said:

Nice, have a great vacation! 

Thanks. Looking forward to crossing Wyoming, Montana and the Dakotas off my list 

[bluewave]

21 minutes ago, anthonymm said:

We used to get overnight lows in the 60s, even in midsummer. That literally NEVER happens now and thats frankly insane.

When I was growing up it was normal for NYC to have at least one July low in the 50s and POU in the 40s. Now both locations usually stay above 60° and 50° in July. Very challenging with record high dewpoints keeping the lows from dropping as much as they used to.