June 2025 discussion-obs: Summerlike

[MJO812]

[Roger Smith]

Just looking at the latest depictions from NOAA space weather, the geomagnetic storm flared up big time between 09z and 15z, then petered out for several hours, and has since begun to recharge (a second wave of material from the active Sun). As of now, all of New England and NYS would be seeing northern lights if it were dark outside. Hopefully this trend will continue. You can access real-time depictions of the aurora at swpc.noaa.gov. The auroral ring "forecast" is actually a 24-hour time lapse and its "forecast" component is only a few minutes into the future, what you see there is the previous 23 hours and the projected next hour of coverage. I've found from experience that if you're in the "green" outer zone you need to be in a very dark un-light-polluted spot to see much, if you're in yellow you'll easily see a lot of details in low-light-pollution rural spots and if you're in the red then you'll see an awe-inspiring display (all assuming you aren't clouded over of course). 

Hoping it stays active to 06z so I get a chance here, never went out to look last night because it was cloudy at 0200h. 

We had a very strong cold front go through late Saturday, highs were near 90F on Saturday and barely 60F today. Unusual for this time of year around here. 

[ForestHillWx]

51/45… trying to stay awake to see the lights if possible. 

[LongBeachSurfFreak]

2 minutes ago, ForestHillWx said:

51/45… trying to stay awake to see the lights if possible. 

Pretty meh right now. Maybe a second wave 10-12.

[psv88]

67 today. Heat kicked on this morning. Enough of that 

[Roger Smith]

Got lucky with a late flare up and as of 0200 local, very good display (49N 117W).

[SnoSki14]

Dipped to 44F this morning. One more night in the 40s tonight and then hello summer. 

[wdrag]

0.08 last night 8P-midnight in Wantage NJ. No clear cut aurora at 3A today on camera. 

[bluewave]

22 hours ago, LibertyBell said:

Chris, it might be more important that 1983 had a developing La Nina, look at those record setting 7 days of 90+ in September 1983 including a mindbending 99 degrees on 9/11/1983 our latest 99 on record.  I also believe that September had our latest 95+ temperature, a 96 on September 22 (the first day of fall)?

 

Not seeing a 1983 type pattern as we head into June. That summer featured a strong ridge over the Great Lakes with a trough near New England. So a strong westerly flow summer.

The summer pattern coming up this week is the same one we have been experiencing the last decade. Elongated ridge to the north and east of New England and plenty of onshore flow. So NJ gets their first 90° of the season which is delayed while JFK and the South Shore gets a very strong Ambrose Jet. 
 

 

 

[LongBeachSurfFreak]

15 minutes ago, bluewave said:

Not seeing a 1983 type pattern as we head into June. That summer featured a strong ridge over the Great Lakes with a trough near New England. So a strong westerly flow summer.

The summer pattern coming up this week is the same one we have been experiencing the last decade. Elongated ridge to the north and east of New England and plenty of onshore flow. So NJ gets their first 90° of the season which is delayed while JFK and the South Shore gets a very strong Ambrose Jet. 
 

 

 

Abrose jet should really crank this week. Water temps are relatively low in the mid to upper 50s. Creating a stronger then usual temperature and pressure gradient from water to land. The ultimate seabreeze. People thinking this is the first beach weather week are going to be treated to a sand storm and a fridged afternoon wind. 

[steve392]

Another gorgeous chilly morning.  Great sleeping weather with windows open and fans on.  49 in paramus, nj when i got to work this morning.

[jm1220]

42 minutes ago, LongBeachSurfFreak said:

Abrose jet should really crank this week. Water temps are relatively low in the mid to upper 50s. Creating a stronger then usual temperature and pressure gradient from water to land. The ultimate seabreeze. People thinking this is the first beach weather week are going to be treated to a sand storm and a fridged afternoon wind. 

2 weekends in a row ruined for good beach weather now. Can’t get it much over 70 on the shore before either clouds/rain or the 40mph Ambrose Jet. There are days where that wind approaches 50mph. 

[Sundog]

8 hours ago, psv88 said:

67 today. Heat kicked on this morning. Enough of that 

What you need to do is adjust the thermostat to a number lower than 75 haha 

[LongBeachSurfFreak]

Just now, jm1220 said:

2 weekends in a row ruined for good beach weather now. Can’t get it much over 70 on the shore before either clouds/rain or the 40mph Ambrose Jet. There are days where that wind approaches 50mph. 

Yeah 40 mph gusts are common on the beach front with the Ambrose jet. The strongest events I have witnessed in 26 years of ocean life gaurding is probably close to 60mph. I have a hand held anemometer so I’ll take some readings this week. 

[FPizz]

2 hours ago, SnoSki14 said:

Dipped to 44F this morning. One more night in the 40s tonight and then hello summer. 

Yes, 44 here as well

[SACRUS]

 

60 / 46 off a low of 43.   Out of the cool/wet pattern and by tomorrow quickly to summer,  Low 70s/mid 70s today - low 80s / mid 80s Tuesday and upper 80s to low 90s Wed - Fri / cooler coast..  850 MB temps >17c Thu and again on Sunday could make a sneaky overperforming highs day pending on clouds/storms in between.  Frontal boundary linger by Friday nigh - Sun AM so could see some pop up storms in the period and debris clouds Saturday (another weekend cloudy day potential).  Sunday looks like the better day.  Overall, warmer 6/9 and beyond.

 

[SACRUS]

 

Records:

Highs:

EWR:  93 (2000)
NYC: 96 (1895)
LGA: 94 (1989)
JFK: 91 (1961)

 

 

Lows:

EWR: 48  (1946)
NYC: 48 (1946)
LGA: 48 (1946)
JFK: 51 (2015)

 

Historical:

 

1889 - A great flood on the Potomac River in Washington D.C. took out a span of Long Bridge, and flooded streets near the river. The flood stage reached was not again equalled until 1936. (David Ludlum)

 

1889: The same storm that caused the historic dam failure in Johnstown, PA, also affected Washington, D.C. The streets and reservations in the center of the city and all the wharves and streets along the riverfront were under water. Pennsylvania Avenue was flooded from 2nd to 10th Streets. The Potomac River crested at the Aqueduct Bridge at 19.5 feet on June 2. Additionally, damage occurred on Rock Creek, with the Woodley Lane Bridge washed away. Considerable damage occurred to machinery plants and material at the Navy Yard.

1917 - The temperature at Tribune, KS dipped to 30 degrees to establish a state record for the month of June. (The Weather Channel)

1949 - A tornado northeast of Alfalfa OK circled an area one mile in radius. (The Weather Channel)

1985 - Lightning struck a house, broke a bedroom window, and jumped to a metal frame bed. A man was killed but his wife was unharmed by the lightning. (The Weather Channel)

1987 - Thunderstorms spawned seven tornadoes in West Texas and six tornadoes in Illinois. Thunderstorms in Illinois produced wind gusts to 70 mph at McComb and Mattoon. Thunderstorms in southern Texas produced 5.5 inches of rain south of Seguin, and up to eight inches of rain in Washington County. (Storm Data) (The National Weather Summary)

1988 - Severe thunderstorms in Texas and Oklahoma produced hail more than three inches in diameter near Stilwater OK, and softball size hail in Jones County of north central Texas. Baseball size hail and 70 mph winds caused an estimated 100 million dollars damage around Abilene TX. (National Weather Summary) (Storm Data)

1989 - Thunderstorms produced severe weather across much of the south central U.S. through most of the day and night. Thunderstorms spawned a dozen tornadoes, and there were 123 reports of large hail and damaging winds. Thunderstorm winds gusted to 78 mph at Russell KS, and baseball size hail was reported at Denver CO, Cuthbert TX, and in Reeves County TX. Afternoon thunderstorms in southern New England produced wind gusts to 120 mph at Fitchburg, MA, causing five million dollars damage. (The National Weather Summary) (Storm Data)

 

1998: Frostburg, Maryland on June 2, 1998, at 9:45 PM - This was part of a killer outbreak of tornadoes that moved southeast from Pennsylvania. The storm entered Garrett County, Maryland striking the town of Finzel. It then moved up and over Big Savage Mountain in Allegany County and ripped through the northern portion of Frostburg. It reached its peak strength as it crossed the ridge. Winds were estimated between 210 and 250 mph (F4 on the Fujita Tornado Damage Scale). This was the first tornado to "officially" be rated an "F4" in the State of Maryland. The National Weather Service adopted the Fujita Damage Scale in 1973. The total damage path of the Frostburg tornado was over 25 miles long (8 miles in Allegany County) and up to a half-mile wide. Along most of its path, it was producing winds over 125 mph (F2 or stronger). The damage path was continuous as it moved up and down over 2000-foot mountain ridges. The fact that no one was killed in Maryland was attributed to 5 to 10 minutes warning that was well communicated to people in Frostburg over television, radio, scanners, telephones, and sirens. People took quick action to move to their basements. A mother and child rode out the storm as it destroyed their house hiding under a table in the basement. They were shaken but unharmed. A jacket from a Frostburg home was found 25 miles away. A diploma was found near Winchester, Virginia, 60 miles away and a bill was found near Sterling Virginia (about 100 miles away). 

 

2008: Several supercell thunderstorms rolled southeast from northwest South Dakota into central South Dakota, bringing large hail, damaging winds, and flash flooding during the late afternoon and evening hours. The large hail, up to baseball size, and high winds killed a large number of birds, pheasants, and rabbits. The large hail also knocked out many windows and damaged the siding of buildings and homes in both Stanley and Hughes counties. Very heavy rain of over 3 inches caused flash flooding in many parts of Pierre into the early morning hours. A Federal Disaster Declaration was issued for Hughes and Stanley Counties, mainly for the flooding. (Ref. Wilson Wx. History)

[JustinRP37]

Maybe I am blind, but I am not seeing a true heat signal yet. We have a few well above average days this week, but then it is right back to normal/below normal. Highs in the mid 70s this time of year are normal. Today will be another well below normal day. Thursday should be +10 to +12 then right back down to the mid 70s. Anyone who is proclaiming high heat can you point me as to where you are seeing this? Maybe in the southern part of our forum?

[WE GOT HIM]

All my vegetables are going to bolt with this heat

[SACRUS]

 

Up to 68  clear skies - some smoke moving through CPA

 

[SACRUS]

1 hour ago, JustinRP37 said:

Maybe I am blind, but I am not seeing a true heat signal yet. We have a few well above average days this week, but then it is right back to normal/below normal. Highs in the mid 70s this time of year are normal. Today will be another well below normal day. Thursday should be +10 to +12 then right back down to the mid 70s. Anyone who is proclaiming high heat can you point me as to where you are seeing this? Maybe in the southern part of our forum?

Today Normal's  EWR: 77 / 59 ; NYC: 76 / 60.   Lows EWR 50 / NYC 53 with highs in the 74 - 77 range today puts daily departures in the -3 to -6 range.  Looks like 80s through Sunday then the Ridge in the west and EC on the fringes of the ridge trough setting up into the GL/MW.   It would be brief day or so of any heat getting into the area during the  6/9 - 6/15 period only but does appear to be overall above normal.  

 

[LibertyBell]

4 hours ago, bluewave said:

Not seeing a 1983 type pattern as we head into June. That summer featured a strong ridge over the Great Lakes with a trough near New England. So a strong westerly flow summer.

The summer pattern coming up this week is the same one we have been experiencing the last decade. Elongated ridge to the north and east of New England and plenty of onshore flow. So NJ gets their first 90° of the season which is delayed while JFK and the South Shore gets a very strong Ambrose Jet. 
 

 

 

This is why I can't wait for SST to heat up to 70+

[LibertyBell]

4 hours ago, LongBeachSurfFreak said:

Abrose jet should really crank this week. Water temps are relatively low in the mid to upper 50s. Creating a stronger then usual temperature and pressure gradient from water to land. The ultimate seabreeze. People thinking this is the first beach weather week are going to be treated to a sand storm and a fridged afternoon wind. 

artificially heating up the oceans beginning in May is necessary.

 

[LibertyBell]

3 hours ago, jm1220 said:

2 weekends in a row ruined for good beach weather now. Can’t get it much over 70 on the shore before either clouds/rain or the 40mph Ambrose Jet. There are days where that wind approaches 50mph. 

If Dubai can air condition the sand on their beaches than we can artificially heat up our near coastal waters beginning in May.  It would be a boon to the beach business.

[LibertyBell]

13 minutes ago, SACRUS said:

 

Up to 68  clear skies - some smoke moving through CPA

 

The interesting thing is, I see clear blue skies to my north and east and west and a yellowish haze to my south.

[LibertyBell]

1 hour ago, JustinRP37 said:

Maybe I am blind, but I am not seeing a true heat signal yet. We have a few well above average days this week, but then it is right back to normal/below normal. Highs in the mid 70s this time of year are normal. Today will be another well below normal day. Thursday should be +10 to +12 then right back down to the mid 70s. Anyone who is proclaiming high heat can you point me as to where you are seeing this? Maybe in the southern part of our forum?

Not very hot, but more like warm to very warm.  Maybe 90 on Thursday the other days will be low to mid 80s.

 

[LibertyBell]

14 hours ago, LongBeachSurfFreak said:

Pretty meh right now. Maybe a second wave 10-12.

did you see the northern lights from Lynbrook?

[SACRUS]

6 minutes ago, LibertyBell said:

The interesting thing is, I see clear blue skies to my north and east and west and a yellowish haze to my south.

Are you in PA?

[LibertyBell]

16 hours ago, Sundog said:

Greece is mostly a dry heat, I can deal with it since they usually also have a nice breeze and temps drop decently at night. Plus there's 8 million gorgeous beaches to go to relax. 

90 to 95 degrees during the day is no big deal when the dewpoints stay low, there's a good breeze and temps drop nicely at sundown. 

It reminded me of when I was in Barcelona, the same kind of heat.  Or what we had in 2010 lol.

 

[LibertyBell]

Just now, SACRUS said:

Are you in PA?

No, here on Long Island right now.