May 2025

[LibertyBell]

3 minutes ago, LongBeachSurfFreak said:

Very similar to why south Florida doesn’t see the type of 100 degree heat you see in Texas. We are years from seeing a Florida climate here but the halmarks are starting.

There are places in Florida near the coast that see 100 degree temps-- see Jacksonville.

[LibertyBell]

33 minutes ago, bluewave said:

It’s going to be a challenge for places like Newark to ever see 20 consecutive 90° days again with how wet the climate has become with increased summer onshore flow.

 

Number of Consecutive Days Max Temperature >= 90 
for NEWARK LIBERTY INTL AP, NJ
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Last value also occurred in one or more previous years.
Period of record: 1931-01-01 to 2025-05-14
1	20	1988-07-29 through 1988-08-17
2	14	2010-07-16 through 2010-07-29
3	12	1995-07-24 through 1995-08-04
-	12	1972-07-14 through 1972-07-25
4	11	2012-06-28 through 2012-07-08
-	11	1973-08-26 through 1973-09-05
-	11	1953-08-24 through 1953-09-03
5	10	2022-08-02 through 2022-08-11
-	10	2006-07-27 through 2006-08-05
-	10	2002-08-10 through 2002-08-19

 

Data for NEWARK LIBERTY INTL AP, NJ
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1988-07-29	95	0.00
1988-07-30	99	0.00
1988-07-31	90	T
1988-08-01	91	0.00
1988-08-02	94	0.00
1988-08-03	93	0.00
1988-08-04	92	0.00
1988-08-05	90	T
1988-08-06	90	0.00
1988-08-07	93	T
1988-08-08	90	0.00
1988-08-09	92	0.00
1988-08-10	93	0.01
1988-08-11	97	0.00
1988-08-12	95	0.00
1988-08-13	98	0.00
1988-08-14	98	0.00
1988-08-15	99	0.00
1988-08-16	92	0.00
1988-08-17	90	0.05

Hopefully with your projected 3C of warming, JFK and EWR will see 100 degree temps a few times every summer even with onshore flow.

Do you think a time will come when we could hit 100 degrees even on a southerly wind?

 

[HailMan06]

32 minutes ago, LibertyBell said:

Hopefully with your projected 3C of warming, JFK and EWR will see 100 degree temps a few times every summer even with onshore flow.

Do you think a time will come when we could hit 100 degrees even on a southerly wind?

 

I don’t know why you would hope for that. 100F heat WITH an onshore flow would likely be a mass casualty heat event with the humidity.

[LibertyBell]

31 minutes ago, HailMan06 said:

I don’t know why you would hope for that. 100F heat WITH an onshore flow would likely be a mass casualty heat event with the humidity.

Not really I imagine every home and apartment will have air conditioning long before then.

I imagine air conditioning will become more important than heating your home by then.

 

[IrishRob17]

13 minutes ago, LibertyBell said:

Not really I imagine every home and apartment will have air conditioning long before then.

I imagine air conditioning will become more important than heating your home by then.

 

 Not everyone has the luxury of working in a climate controlled building. 

[LibertyBell]

3 minutes ago, IrishRob17 said:

 Not everyone has the luxury of working in a climate controlled building. 

I think it'll be mandatory to have various forms of cooling, I'm looking at 30-50 years in the future.  If we do indeed have a Florida like climate at that point.

Maybe we'll do what Dubai has done with installing air conditioning under their streets.

https://luxurylaunches.com/travel/dubai-urban-highway.php

 

Dubai is building a 58-mile-long air-conditioned highway for walking and cycling. The humungous structure will be powered by kinetic flooring that will harness energy from the footsteps of runners and walkers.

[Sundog]

8 minutes ago, LibertyBell said:

I think it'll be mandatory to have various forms of cooling, I'm looking at 30-50 years in the future.  If we do indeed have a Florida like climate at that point.

Maybe we'll do what Dubai has done with installing air conditioning under their streets.

https://luxurylaunches.com/travel/dubai-urban-highway.php

 

Dubai is building a 58-mile-long air-conditioned highway for walking and cycling. The humungous structure will be powered by kinetic flooring that will harness energy from the footsteps of runners and walkers.

We are not going to have a Florida climate here in your lifetime, or even multiple lifteimes, even if emissions continue unabated. 

 

[LibertyBell]

22 minutes ago, Sundog said:

We are not going to have a Florida climate here in your lifetime, or even multiple lifteimes, even if emissions continue unabated. 

 

Well, that's good because I hate high humidity.  Getting rid of this excessive rainfall and returning to a hot and dry normal summer pattern like we had in the 90s is perfect.

[Brian5671]

1 minute ago, LibertyBell said:

Well, that's good because I hate high humidity.  Getting rid of this excessive rainfall and returning to a hot and dry normal summer pattern like we had in the 90s is perfect.

That's not happening either

[JerseyWx]

38 minutes ago, LibertyBell said:

I think it'll be mandatory to have various forms of cooling, I'm looking at 30-50 years in the future.  If we do indeed have a Florida like climate at that point.

Maybe we'll do what Dubai has done with installing air conditioning under their streets.

https://luxurylaunches.com/travel/dubai-urban-highway.php

 

Dubai is building a 58-mile-long air-conditioned highway for walking and cycling. The humungous structure will be powered by kinetic flooring that will harness energy from the footsteps of runners and walkers.

Yes but all the people who work outside in construction, cops, etc.  We definitely don't want mega heat mixed with humidity.  And I can't imagine how many billions that project will cost to even implement.

[Dark Star]

1 hour ago, LibertyBell said:

I think it'll be mandatory to have various forms of cooling, I'm looking at 30-50 years in the future.  If we do indeed have a Florida like climate at that point.

Maybe we'll do what Dubai has done with installing air conditioning under their streets.

https://luxurylaunches.com/travel/dubai-urban-highway.php

 

Dubai is building a 58-mile-long air-conditioned highway for walking and cycling. The humungous structure will be powered by kinetic flooring that will harness energy from the footsteps of runners and walkers.

If they can outlaw gas stoves, they can outlaw energy-wasteful air conditioning?

[LibertyBell]

2 minutes ago, Dark Star said:

If they can outlaw gas stoves, they can outlaw energy-wasteful air conditioning?

it doesn't look wasteful to me, it's being powered by the kinetic energy of humans moving.

[LibertyBell]

38 minutes ago, Brian5671 said:

That's not happening either

This sticky stuff is far worse.

I could see a return to a drier pattern with sulfate particle release into the atmosphere-- that's what the climate models predict would happen anyway, cooler and drier.

But cooler and drier doesn't mean it won't return to higher high temperatures in summer like we had in the 40s, 50s, 60s, and 90s.

[LibertyBell]

So nice to have lower humidity today with mostly sunny skies here, I was outside for lunch and it felt absolutely wonderful.

 

[IrishRob17]

54 minutes ago, LibertyBell said:

So nice to have lower humidity today with mostly sunny skies here, I was outside for lunch and it felt absolutely wonderful.

 

The dew point is higher today here than it was yesterday…

[LongBeachSurfFreak]

8 minutes ago, IrishRob17 said:

The dew point is higher today here than it was yesterday…

Yeah here too. Current dew point at JFK is 64 and yesterday it was 63 at the same time.

[LibertyBell]

9 minutes ago, IrishRob17 said:

The dew point is higher today here than it was yesterday…

It didn't feel like it here, I felt a cool breeze with the sun out around 2:30 - 3 PM when I was outside.

[LibertyBell]

Just now, LongBeachSurfFreak said:

Yeah here too. Current dew point at JFK is 64 and yesterday it was 63 at the same time.

I guess that's moderate, but definitely a much better day than yesterday.

 

Great t shirt weather.

[IrishRob17]

21 minutes ago, LongBeachSurfFreak said:

Yeah here too. Current dew point at JFK is 64 and yesterday it was 63 at the same time.

Yesterday my dew was 60-61, currently it's 67. I did a couple hours of yard work just now and my T-shirt and hat were dripping with sweat, not a pretty sight LOL

[Stormlover74]

Another downpour

[LibertyBell]

35 minutes ago, IrishRob17 said:

Yesterday my dew was 60-61, currently it's 67. I did a couple hours of yard work just now and my T-shirt and hat were dripping with sweat, not a pretty sight LOL

Seeing the sun out is so nice though.

 

[SACRUS]

Up to 71 with the breaks of sun and just north of the storms that blew up in OCean contty

[SACRUS]

[Stormlover74]

2 minutes ago, SACRUS said:

Slight risk expands over us for Saturday 

[LongBeachSurfFreak]

2 minutes ago, Stormlover74 said:

Slight risk expands over us for Saturday 

I could see a derecho coming out of the Ohio Valley. Most likely follow a similar path to June 12. So south Jersey special. 

[LibertyBell]

15 minutes ago, SACRUS said:

Up to 71 with the breaks of sun and just north of the storms that blew up in OCean contty

such a nice day, lots of kids playing outside.

[LongBeachSurfFreak]

7 minutes ago, LongBeachSurfFreak said:

I could see a derecho coming out of the Ohio Valley. Most likely follow a similar path to June 12. So south Jersey special. 

 

[Stormlover74]

33 minutes ago, LongBeachSurfFreak said:

I could see a derecho coming out of the Ohio Valley. Most likely follow a similar path to June 12. So south Jersey special. 

Yeah they do usually tend to go to our south

[donsutherland1]

It will turn warmer tomorrow. The week will end with temperatures in the upper 70s to perhaps 80°. Showers and thundershowers are possible during the tomorrow and especially on Saturday.

The extended guidance has grown noticeably cooler for the second half of May than it had been. Both the CFSv2 and ECMWF weekly guidance are now in good agreement that the second half of the month will be cooler than normal overall.

Consistent with the guidance, it could turn unseasonably cooler next week following the coming weekend. Once it turns cooler, an extended period of below normal temperatures is possible.

The ENSO Region 1+2 anomaly was 0.0°C and the Region 3.4 anomaly was +0.1°C for the week centered around May 7. For the past six weeks, the ENSO Region 1+2 anomaly has averaged +0.55°C and the ENSO Region 3.4 anomaly has averaged -0.07°C. Neutral ENSO conditions will likely continue through at least mid summer.

Early indications are that summer 2025 will be warmer than normal in the New York City and Philadelphia areas. The potential exists for a much warmer than normal summer (more than 1° above normal).

The SOI was +7.60 today.

The preliminary Arctic Oscillation (AO) was -0.066 today.

Based on sensitivity analysis applied to the latest guidance, there is an implied near 55% probability that New York City will have a warmer than normal May (1991-2020 normal). May will likely finish with a mean temperature near 64.0° (0.8° above normal).

 

[LibertyBell]

35 minutes ago, donsutherland1 said:

It will turn warmer tomorrow. The week will end with temperatures in the upper 70s to perhaps 80°. Showers and thundershowers are possible during the tomorrow and especially on Saturday.

The extended guidance has grown noticeably cooler for the second half of May than it had been. Both the CFSv2 and ECMWF weekly guidance are now in good agreement that the second half of the month will be cooler than normal overall.

Consistent with the guidance, it could turn unseasonably cooler next week following the coming weekend. Once it turns cooler, an extended period of below normal temperatures is possible.

The ENSO Region 1+2 anomaly was 0.0°C and the Region 3.4 anomaly was +0.1°C for the week centered around May 7. For the past six weeks, the ENSO Region 1+2 anomaly has averaged +0.55°C and the ENSO Region 3.4 anomaly has averaged -0.07°C. Neutral ENSO conditions will likely continue through at least mid summer.

Early indications are that summer 2025 will be warmer than normal in the New York City and Philadelphia areas. The potential exists for a much warmer than normal summer (more than 1° above normal).

The SOI was +7.60 today.

The preliminary Arctic Oscillation (AO) was -0.066 today.

Based on sensitivity analysis applied to the latest guidance, there is an implied near 55% probability that New York City will have a warmer than normal May (1991-2020 normal). May will likely finish with a mean temperature near 64.0° (0.8° above normal).

 

sunny and cool for most of next week is going to be a fun experience.