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7 hours ago, LibertyBell said:

100 degrees is what makes a summer memorable, if it has low dew points even better.  I would love 101 degrees with a dew point of 60, we got a lot of that in 2010.

There's also a nice correlation between hot summers and snowy winters.

We had that in 1955, 1966, 1977, 1993, 1995, 2002, 2010, and 2013.

 

Noone remembers summers. 

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14 hours ago, LibertyBell said:

when you look at summers like 1983 and 2011 though, wasn't it went both before and after summer? 1982-83 was a very strong el nino so naturally it had a very wet winter and I remember spring was very wet too.  It was only the summer months that had lower rainfall.  It makes me think that it gives the soil time to dry out before peak heating season.

2010-11 was of course a very snowy winter and also very wet.  I don't remember what spring was like that year except for all the severe weather outbreaks across the south and midwest.

 

We had one of the wettest springs on record in 1983 with extensive basement flooding in Long Beach. But the entire Eastern US had a very dry summer. So it can only take a few weeks during peak summer heating for drought conditions to develop when it doesn’t rain. Plus you have to take into account the source region of the heat which is moving into the area. 2011 had the worst drought since the dust bowl in Texas which extended up into our area through most of the East. If the whole region surrounding our local area is dry, then the drought feedback will affect our temperatures also since the flow is from those dry areas.
 

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14 hours ago, qg_omega said:

Crazy to see droughts in the deserts, lol

It’s all relative to what the average rainfall is in any given area. Of course more arid and semi-arid regions experience less rainfall. But if you shut off the rainfall in a drier region like Southern California, then severe drought conditions will develop if it only a tiny fraction of what is normal for those local areas falls.

In reality, those areas which burned last winter around LA used to be wild areas with very few inhabitants as recently as a couple hundred years ago. Now add the acceleration of the water cycle with wetter rainy periods spurring dense undergrowth from climate change followed by record drought and you saw what they were up against out there. Plus the changing 500mb and surface patterns lead to record winds. 

So poor land management practices combined climate change is a very dangerous combination. 

 

 

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40 minutes ago, bluewave said:

We had one of the wettest springs on record in 1983 with extensive basement flooding in Long Beach. But the entire Eastern US had a very dry summer. So it can only take a few weeks during peak summer heating for drought conditions to develop when it doesn’t rain. Plus you have to take into account the source region of the heat which is moving into the area. 2011 had the worst drought since the dust bowl in Texas which extended up into our area through most of the East. If the whole region surrounding our local area is dry, then the drought feedback will affect our temperatures also since the flow is from those dry areas.
 

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These are the classic summers I grew up with that I knew and loved.  I have dim memories of 1977 (mostly because of the blackout.... I think there's a pun there somewhere, unintentional I assure you lol) but stronger memories of 1980, 1983, 1988, 1991, 1993, 1995, 1999, 2002.  The summers in the 90s were when I was in college and enjoyed wonderfully sunny summers at the beach, I think those summers all the way up to 2002 were the best summers we've ever had, only usurped by 2010-2013 which also had wonderful weather.  Since 2013 we just haven't had summers like that anymore.  We haven't even had a stretch of 7 or more days of 90 degree heat in a row since 2002 (we had two that year and also two in 1999.)

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43 minutes ago, bluewave said:

We had one of the wettest springs on record in 1983 with extensive basement flooding in Long Beach. But the entire Eastern US had a very dry summer. So it can only take a few weeks during peak summer heating for drought conditions to develop when it doesn’t rain. Plus you have to take into account the source region of the heat which is moving into the area. 2011 had the worst drought since the dust bowl in Texas which extended up into our area through most of the East. If the whole region surrounding our local area is dry, then the drought feedback will affect our temperatures also since the flow is from those dry areas.
 

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September 1983 was a classic hot extended summer wasn't it, Chris? 6 days of 90+ including a 95 degree day in there on the 11th? This was after it hit 100 at JFK in August.  Why does it look like it was below normal for the month of September on Long Island though?

 

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38 minutes ago, LibertyBell said:

September 1983 was a classic hot extended summer wasn't it, Chris? 6 days of 90+ including a 95 degree day in there on the 11th? This was after it hit 100 at JFK in August.  Why does it look like it was below normal for the month of September on Long Island though?

 

one of my favorite summers of all time....13 and what an incredible year and music and days and days of watching mtv and then going outside doing what 13 years old do and coming in at night with air conditioning downstairs to watch endless amounts of music videos

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61 / 59 misty.  Ugly two days 1 - 3 inches depending where you are as the ULL cutoff moves through.  Temp break Wed with some sun.  Trough slides south into the northeast cut off later Thu through Sat AM with the next round of rain. A nice Mother day looks on tap. Beyond there the period 5/10 through mid month looks near normal before potentially more ridging into the week 20.

 


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61 / 59 misty.  Ugly two days 1 - 3 inches depending where you are as the ULL cutoff moves through.  Temp break Wed with some sun.  Trough slides south into the northeast cut off later Thu through Sat AM with the next round of rain. A nice Mother day looks on tap. Beyond there the period 5/10 through mid month looks near normal before potentially more ridging into the week 20.

 


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why are we getting so many cut offs, this belongs in March lol

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6 minutes ago, winterwarlock said:

one of my favorite summers of all time....13 and what an incredible year and music and days and days of watching mtv and then going outside doing what 13 years old do and coming in at night with air conditioning downstairs to watch endless amounts of music videos

I was turning 10 years old and we had just moved into a new house and I was enjoying the central air and our big back yard with large pine trees and acorns lol where I played ball.  Great memories!!

 

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Records:

Highs:

EWR: 94 (1949)
NYC: 90 (1980)
LGA: 90 (1955)
JFK: 84 (1980)

 


Lows:

EWR: 38 (1966)
NYC: 34 (1891)
LGA: 42 (1978)
JFK: 41 (2002)



Historical:

 

1917 - The same storm which a day earlier produced eight inches of snow in the Texas panhandle, produced a foot of snow at Denver CO, their heaviest snow of record for the month of May. (David Ludlum)

1930 - The temperature at College Park, VA, soared from 43 degrees to 93 degrees to begin an exceptional heat wave. (Sandra and TI Richard Sanders - 1987)

 

1933: An estimated F4 tornado cut a 35-mile path from near Brent into Shelby County, Alabama. The town of Helena, AL was especially hard hit, as 14 people died. The tornado roared through Helena at 2:30 am.

1987 - Unseasonably hot weather prevailed in the western U.S. A dozen cities in California reported record high temperatures for the date. Afternoon highs of 93 degrees at San Francisco, 98 degrees at San Jose, 100 degrees at Sacramento, and 101 degrees at Redding, were the warmest of record for so early in the season. The high of 94 degrees at Medford OR was also the warmest of record for so early in the season. (The National Weather Summary)

1987 - Parts of the western U.S. were in the midst of a blistering May heat wave. The reading of 100 degrees in Downtown Sacramento CA was their earliest of record. Sacramento CA established daily record highs on nine of eleven days between the 4th and the 14th. (The Weather Channel)

1988 - A stubborn low pressure system continued to drench the eastern U.S. with rain. Thunderstorms again produced large hail in North Carolina. (The National Weather Summary)

1989 - Thunderstorms swept across Georgia and the Carolinas during the late afternoon and evening hours spawning seventeen tornadoes. A tornado at Toccoa GA injured 15 persons, and a tornado at Chesnee SC killed two persons and injured 35 others. Five tornadoes in North Carolina accounted for five deaths, 88 injuries, and sixty million dollars damage. Thunderstorms also produced baseball size hail at Lake Murray SC, and wind gusts to 78 mph at Brooklyn MD. (The National Weather Summary) (Storm Data)

1990 - A strong Pacific cold front moving rapidly inland caused weather conditions at the east end of the Strait of Juan de Fuca in Washington State to quickly change from sunny and calm to westerly winds of 60 mph and ten-foot waves. Three recreational fishing boats capsized in heavy seas off Port Angeles resulting in five deaths. In California, temperatures soared above 90 degrees across much of the state. The high of 101 degrees in downtown Los Angeles was eight degrees hotter than their previous record for the date. (The National Weather Summary) (Storm Data)

1995: A supercell thunderstorms brought torrential rains and large hail up to four inches in diameter to Fort Worth, Texas. This storm also struck a local outdoor festival known as the Fort Worth Mayfest. At the time the storm was the costliest hailstorm in the history of the US, causing more than $2 billion in damage.

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