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20 minutes ago, ineedsnow said:

How much and who do I have to pay for my Accuweather 90 day forecast to verify.... ? warmest temp 84 though August 11th and most days are in the 70s..  And yes I know this wont verify but it would be my dream summer :weenie::thumbsup:

I could do without that 84. I suppose  with the low dew points they won't be too bad.

 

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There's an underlying/not well realized forcing that is somehow by physical cause being suppressed in the operational runs.   

The -PNA, with an out-of-season EPO, along with a flat/and/or E limb NAO, are all demonstrative in the numerical values from all three major ensemble systems,  EPS/GEFs/GEPs... Basically a -2 SD PNA, with nominal fluctions +/-  wrt the other indices.  Without any intervening forcing, that should layout out eastern N/A ridging.   This numerical teleconnector spread/outlook has been in the cast for over a week's worth of daily mass-field computations.

Yet these operational member versions just refuse to ever map a pattern in their respective mid and extended range charts that fully occupies what the spread description above says they should be...  - this I am convinced is to enable Ineedsnow to torment Kevin, all the while ... he doesn't realize that in having all that numerical basis for heat, being suppressed by the operational versions ... is both highly unstable and probably just a matter of time before there's a ridge blossom.   

Or not...  it is true that sometimes these telecons will divorce from the operational runs and vice versa.  When that happens, given time they will tend to converge.   The question is, do they converge into this year without a summer game interminably until we finally get hot for one week in early September?   Or, do we suddenly explode hot.  

 

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2 minutes ago, Typhoon Tip said:

There's an underlying/not well realized forcing that is somehow by physical cause being suppressed in the operational runs.   

The -PNA, with an out-of-season EPO, along with a flat/and/or E limb NAO, are all demonstrative in the numerical values from all three major ensemble systems,  EPS/GEFs/GEPs... Basically a -2 SD PNA, with nominal fluctions +/- in the other fields.  Without any intervening forcing, that should layout out eastern N/A ridging.   This numerical teleconnector spread/outlook has been in the cast for over a week's worth of daily mass-field computations.

Yet these operational member versions just refuse to ever map a pattern in their respective mid and extended range charts that fully occupies what the spread description above says they should be...  - this I am convinced is to enable Ineedsnow to torment Kevin, all the while ... he doesn't realize that it's having all that numerical basis for heat, being suppressed by the operational versions ... is both highly unstable and probably just a matter of time before there's a ridge blossom.   

Or not...  it is true that sometimes these telecons will divorce from the operational runs and vice versa.  When that happens, given time they will tend to converge.   The question is, do they converge into this year without a summer game interminably until we finally get hot for one week in early September?   Or, do we suddenly explode hot.  

 

we year without a Summer

Wednesday
A slight chance of showers after 2pm. Mostly cloudy, with a high near 69. Calm wind becoming southeast 5 to 8 mph in the afternoon. Chance of precipitation is 20%.
Wednesday Night
A chance of showers, mainly after 7pm. Mostly cloudy, with a low around 55. Southeast wind around 5 mph becoming calm in the evening. Chance of precipitation is 50%.
Thursday
A chance of showers. Mostly cloudy, with a high near 68. Calm wind becoming east around 5 mph in the afternoon. Chance of precipitation is 40%.
Thursday Night
A chance of showers before 10pm. Mostly cloudy, with a low around 58. Calm wind. Chance of precipitation is 30%.
Friday
A chance of showers after 2pm. Mostly cloudy, with a high near 76. Calm wind becoming south 5 to 7 mph in the afternoon. Chance of precipitation is 30%.
Friday Night
Showers likely, mainly between 10pm and midnight. Mostly cloudy, with a low around 54. South wind around 5 mph becoming calm in the evening. Chance of precipitation is 60%.
Saturday
A chance of showers. Partly sunny, with a high near 73. South wind 3 to 8 mph. Chance of precipitation is 50%.
Saturday Night
Showers likely. Mostly cloudy, with a low around 51. South wind around 7 mph becoming west after midnight. Chance of precipitation is 70%.
Sunday
Showers likely. Partly sunny, with a high near 67. West wind 6 to 9 mph. Chance of precipitation is 60%.
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1 hour ago, kdxken said:

I could do without that 84. I suppose  with the low dew points they won't be too bad.

 

1-Summer-temps.webp

Suspiciously looks like "climo" for either a neutral ENSO summer or a negative Neutral ENSO. Just take the average of an entire composite set and call it a forecast...some skill that is 

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10 minutes ago, weatherwiz said:

wtf...its early May. Water temperatures aren't going to be into the 60's yet. Also, actually to this point, sea-surface temperatures off the coast are actually running above average. 

Peter Pann has some weird tweets.

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7 minutes ago, weatherwiz said:

Not too mention he's comparing the SSTs of the Gulf Stream to SSTs surrounding it :lol: 

Those temps look wild too. It's not in the low 80s SE of HSE and not 43 east of NJ. I don't know what the heck is going on.

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33 minutes ago, weatherwiz said:

wtf...its early May. Water temperatures aren't going to be into the 60's yet. Also, actually to this point, sea-surface temperatures off the coast are actually running above average. 

FWIW he did say early in the season

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2 minutes ago, kdxken said:

The anomalies are greater than recent past no?

That I am not sure about...I know that is the case with the equatorial PAC and ATL but not sure if that is the case off the EC. I would think they are probably to some degree but probably negligible really. 

I just thought it was a pointless tweet because if SSTAs were 65 versus 45 right now off the EC or early in tropical season, that would have no bearing on increasing/decreasing potential for tropical systems to survive farther north. Hell, if they were 71 versus 45 there still would be no difference. SSTs below 80 are going to have a negative feedback on tropical systems. 

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3 hours ago, ineedsnow said:

How much and who do I have to pay for my Accuweather 90 day forecast to verify.... ? warmest temp 84 though August 11th and most days are in the 70s..  And yes I know this wont verify but it would be my dream summer :weenie::thumbsup:

We will get our share of dews this summer, with some heat but worst will be Ohio Valley and west. 

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15 minutes ago, TauntonBlizzard2013 said:

This ruins the nice weather IMO

It does...its great on a super hot day but otherwise wind is annoying. It can make yard work more challenging depending on what you're doing and if you're just sitting outside relaxing trying to read something (although I guess everyone just uses a phone for that now) its super annoying. 

My girlfriend and I will like to sit outside and play cards but we haven't been able to do that because of the wind. 

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