LibertyBell Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 Just now, HVSnowLover said: Im barely past the bronx lol. I consider myself NYC although this forum seems to consider lower Westchester a different world. "upstate NY" I would argue that north of Tarrytown is upstate lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HVSnowLover Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 2 minutes ago, LibertyBell said: "upstate NY" I would argue that north of Tarrytown is upstate lol Agree Tarrytown is right along I287 so makes sense. Thats always the cut off in my mind although I guess everyone has microclimates. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HVSnowLover Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 9 minutes ago, CPcantmeasuresnow said: We welcome everyone in Orange County and you stated our case beautifully. I’ve had only 22 inches of snow this winter so far, which is below normal, yet I’ve had a solid snow cover for 33 straight days and counting. That may end by Friday or Saturday but still a decent run. And we still do well on most coastals. Just need inside the benchmark in most cases to jackpot, instead of on or outside it. Yes after a 1-2 years living in Ulster County and being on the other side of coastals, Orange County does seem to be the sweet spot in terms of far enough NW to have barely any marine influence and close enough SE to still get hit by storms that track near the BM. Similar to the dreaded I287 cutoff with rain/snow line, I84 seems to be the dreaded solid snow vs barely anything line in terms of coastals. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gravitylover Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 24 minutes ago, the_other_guy said: Then those people are morons. No offense. That societal statement aside, I always hated that NYC and its residents are so detached from the water around them. Perhaps its greatest asset and so little access While surrounded by water on LI it's hard to access (during the summer when you most want to) without paying to do so. That drives me nuts. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrishRob17 Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 1 hour ago, rclab said: Good evening Irish. I do manage to find my way around the Postage Stamp. I admit it’s been tricky at times. Stay well, as always …. Evening Rich, putting the old Rand McNally to good use I see Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 1 hour ago, gravitylover said: While surrounded by water on LI it's hard to access (during the summer when you most want to) without paying to do so. That drives me nuts. and we have Robert Moses to blame for a lot of the way the highways are structured too. I wish we could build a statue of him somewhere just so we could later tear it down and shatter it to pieces. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BxEngine Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 Not all of manhattan is an island guys. Sorry to burst the geography bubble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HVSnowLover Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 3 minutes ago, BxEngine said: Not all of manhattan is an island guys. Sorry to burst the geography bubble. How so? What part of Manhattan doesn't have water surrounding it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPcantmeasuresnow Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 2 hours ago, LibertyBell said: "upstate NY" I would argue that north of Tarrytown is upstate lol The term upstate in NY seems to be used by everyone in the state to refer to the area north of them. I’m in Orange County and in no way do I consider this upstate. Geographically Albany is the middle latitudes of the state. Binghamton is the southern tier of NY. Of course since 80% Of the residence live below the Tappanzee Bridge everything above seems to somehow become upstate to most people. And yes I said the TAPPAN ZEE bridge. Enough said. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juliancolton Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 All of the continents are just big islands 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrishRob17 Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 25 minutes ago, BxEngine said: Not all of manhattan is an island guys. Sorry to burst the geography bubble. That is correct Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 9 minutes ago, CPcantmeasuresnow said: The term upstate in NY seems to be used by everyone in the state to refer to the area north of them. I’m in Orange County and in no way do I consider this upstate. Geographically Albany is the middle latitudes of the state. Binghamton is the southern tier of NY. Of course since 80% Of the residence live below the Tappanzee Bridge everything above seems to somehow become upstate to most people. And yes I said the TAPPAN ZEE bridge. Enough said. I dont believe in bridges being named by family members after their deceased family members either. I think the name is being changed back. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gravitylover Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 What part of Manhattan isn't an island? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 5 minutes ago, Juliancolton said: All of the continents are just big islands it's true....Australia specifically is an island and a continent (island continent)? But I'd argue against considering the Americas or AfroEurasia that way (I group them together but they are only separated by two artificial canals.) Australia and Antarctica are island continents though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juliancolton Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 Just now, gravitylover said: What part of Manhattan isn't an island? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marble_Hill,_Manhattan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 Just now, gravitylover said: What part of Manhattan isn't an island? and how can that even be possible? if humanity has done something artificial to make part of Manhattan not an island that shouldn't count. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 1 minute ago, Juliancolton said: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marble_Hill,_Manhattan it's artificially separated stupid humanity doing dumb things to interfere with nature. Marble Hill became an island in the Harlem River when it was separated from the island of Manhattan by the construction of the Harlem Ship Canal in 1895. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juliancolton Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 Just now, LibertyBell said: it's artificially separated stupid humanity doing dumb things to interfere with nature. Marble Hill became an island in the Harlem River when it was separated from the island of Manhattan by the construction of the Harlem Ship Canal in 1895. Aren't you the guy who's always carrying on about geoengineering? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 30 minutes ago, HVSnowLover said: How so? What part of Manhattan doesn't have water surrounding it? looks like part is an artificial island because humanity loves to tamper with nature and make their own artificial islands I guess. China does this kind of crap too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 2 minutes ago, Juliancolton said: Aren't you the guy who's always carrying on about geoengineering? lol yea, but it's mostly in jest it's a way to vent frustration at our climate. Sort of like how I change ocean/land distribution in Universe Sandbox lol. One time I dragged the solar system to a different part of the galaxy to see if it would trigger the next ice age. Stuff to do when a storm busts. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrishRob17 Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 1 minute ago, LibertyBell said: it's artificially separated stupid humanity doing dumb things to interfere with nature. Marble Hill became an island in the Harlem River when it was separated from the island of Manhattan by the construction of the Harlem Ship Canal in 1895. A good part of lower Manhattan was also created by “stupid humanity”. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 1 minute ago, IrishRob17 said: A good part of lower Manhattan was also created by “stupid humanity”. I'd like to see what NYC and Long Island looked like when settlers first got here and met the Native Americans. I bet most of the area was wooded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gravitylover Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 The river was moved. It's not the only time or place that has happened. Can you take a boat between the mainland and the island? Yes, therefore it doesn't matter (anymore). Heck, back in the 17th and early 18th centuries you could walk from the Lower East Side to Brooklyn at low tide until it was dredged out. The East River is an estuary not a river so there's another connection that's not a connection anymore. Meh... It's an island. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nibor Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 This is a fun one. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 4 minutes ago, gravitylover said: The river was moved. It's not the only time or place that has happened. Can you take a boat between the mainland and the island? Yes, therefore it doesn't matter (anymore). Heck, back in the 17th and early 18th centuries you could walk from the Lower East Side to Brooklyn at low tide until it was dredged out. The East River is an estuary not a river so there's another connection that's not a connection anymore. Meh... It's an island. So it's an island either way. Look anything not part of a continent (I mean not directly connected to a continent)- is an island. The best way to define it right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juliancolton Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 Wait until you guys hear about the Netherlands. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 3 minutes ago, Nibor said: This is a fun one. There was a fight over who owned Staten Island too lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 1 minute ago, Juliancolton said: Wait until you guys hear about the Netherlands. haha yea, best thing about Holland are their tulips and the way they engineer their crops (food output there is tremendous compared to the size of the country) and their wind power. I bet they do a lot of geoengineering too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthShoreWx Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 2 hours ago, LibertyBell said: "upstate NY" I would argue that north of Tarrytown is upstate lol The Bronx is upstate. If you live in Brooklyn. Not kidding. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthShoreWx Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 2 hours ago, gravitylover said: While surrounded by water on LI it's hard to access (during the summer when you most want to) without paying to do so. That drives me nuts. Yeah, try having to go through the NYC bottleneck to get anywhere off island. I'll be sucking it up and doing it for the millionth time tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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