Upstate/Eastern New York

[rochesterdave]

Very similar. We just need a 50-100 mile bump. I like where we sit. But it’s going to be tight! 
Dang if it doesn’t have that Binghamton look

[96blizz]

Just now, wolfie09 said:

With a storm off the coast it's nearly impossible to get backside/wrap around into WNY or N/C NY..Nam is east of Albany BM bust still delivers decent snow to Syracuse..Hmmm..

The forward motion of the Low stops and it is basically occluding. That allows the decaying CCB bands to spiral farther N and W than we’d normally see. Euro, rgem and icon have it and GEM did last night and at 6z. 

[wolfie09]

The global will look good to..They go hand and hand lol

[rochesterdave]

1 minute ago, wolfie09 said:

With a storm off the coast it's nearly impossible to get backside/wrap around into WNY or N/C NY..Nam is east of Albany BM but still delivers decent snow to Syracuse..Hmmm..

You need the decaying primary to serve as a conveyer. Or something. I hear ya Wolfie. They are rare but not impossible. 

[96blizz]

2 minutes ago, Ericjcrash said:

RGEM is delayed but not denied and ends up being a crusher. Jeez. 

There’s more to go from the rotting CCB too. 

[Ericjcrash]

1 minute ago, rochesterdave said:

Very similar. We just need a 50-100 mile bump. I like where we sit. But it’s going to be tight! 
Dang if it doesn’t have that Binghamton look

Loving that look. 

[Ericjcrash]

Just now, 96blizz said:

There’s more to go from the rotting CCB too. 

Yeah would end up being over 1.5" LE here.

[rochesterdave]

ICON is crushing BINGHAMTON 

[wolfie09]

Get that a little more tucked and maybe the lake can help lol 

[Ericjcrash]

@BGM Blizzard maybe we can clean up like December. I'll take half.

[96blizz]

2 minutes ago, wolfie09 said:

Get that a little more tucked and maybe the lake can help lol 

This is a great point. Enhancement between Great Lakes and finger lakes would be awesome for this board. 

[BuffaloWeather]

Happy anniversary whoever was in Syracuse in 1966

[BuffaloWeather]

Never heard of that storm. Was that lake effect or synoptic? Had to be both? 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/capital-weather-gang/wp/2016/01/29/remembering-the-blizzard-of-1966-and-its-eye-popping-eight-feet-of-snow/

Accumulations exceeding 30 inches extended west from Rochester to Buffalo. Both Syracuse and Rome, N.Y., received over 40 inches. Just northwest of Rome, Camden, N.Y., ended up with over 50 inches.

Snowfall totals were even more extreme on the southeast side of Lake Ontario. Bob Sykes, a meteorology professor at the State University of New York at Oswego, reported a whopping 102.4 inches — 8 ½ feet of snow.

[wolfie09]

Thats all I'm asking for lol

[TugHillMatt]

Happy Groundhog's Day whoever is in Syracuse Winter 2021.

 

[wolfie09]

On Monday, January 31, federal government employees in Washington were excused from reporting to work ^[4] and international airports were closed from Boston to Washington, D.C.. 60 inches (150 cm) or 5 ft of snow fell on Oswego, New York, and the additional accumulation raised the snow level to 13 inches (33 cm) in Norfolk, Virginia.^[5] By February 1, additional snow brought the level to 102 inches (260 cm) or 8 ¹⁄₂ ft to Oswego.^[6] (This held the record for the most snowfall in a single storm in Oswego until the Lake Effect snow storm of February 2007).^{[citation needed]}

The storm began as a nor'easter, which affected the New York City metro area and was followed by heavy "wraparound" lake effect snows. Winds were more than 60 miles per hour (97 km/h) during the storm, and at Fair Haven, New York they are believed to have exceeded 100 miles per hour (160 km/h). The snow was badly drifted and roads and schools closed as long as a week. Drifts covered entire 2 story houses.

A total of 103 inches (260 cm) of snow was recorded at Oswego, 50 inches (130 cm) of this falling on the last day of the storm alone.^[7] 50 inches (130 cm) of snow were also recorded at Camden, New York on the same day. The last day of the blizzard the winds subsided and snowburst conditions prevailed, with the snow falling straight down. Fair Haven did not have official snowfall records at the time, but state troopers reported measuring 100 inches (250 cm) of snow on the level, where none had been prior to the storm. Syracuse, New York received a record snowfall of 42.3 inches (107 cm) which remained their heaviest storm on record, until the Blizzard of 1993.^[7]

The storm lasted from January 27 to January 31, 1966, a total of 4½ days. The daily snowfall totals for Oswego are as follows.

• January 27, 1966: 8 inches (20 cm)
• January 28, 1966: 12 inches (30 cm)
• January 29, 1966: 11 inches (28 cm)
• January 30, 1966: 21 inches (53 cm)
• January 31, 1966: 50 inches (130 cm)

On January 22–23 of 1966, the city of Batavia and Genesee County had 2 feet (61 cm) of snow fall on that Saturday night alone. The only thing that prevented that snowstorm from becoming a true blizzard like this infamous one of the very next weekend was the lack of high winds.^[7]

[BuffaloWeather]

Just now, wolfie09 said:

On Monday, January 31, federal government employees in Washington were excused from reporting to work ^[4] and international airports were closed from Boston to Washington, D.C.. 60 inches (150 cm) or 5 ft of snow fell on Oswego, New York, and the additional accumulation raised the snow level to 13 inches (33 cm) in Norfolk, Virginia.^[5] By February 1, additional snow brought the level to 102 inches (260 cm) or 8 ¹⁄₂ ft to Oswego.^[6] (This held the record for the most snowfall in a single storm in Oswego until the Lake Effect snow storm of February 2007).^{[citation needed]}

The storm began as a nor'easter, which affected the New York City metro area and was followed by heavy "wraparound" lake effect snows. Winds were more than 60 miles per hour (97 km/h) during the storm, and at Fair Haven, New York they are believed to have exceeded 100 miles per hour (160 km/h). The snow was badly drifted and roads and schools closed as long as a week. Drifts covered entire 2 story houses.

A total of 103 inches (260 cm) of snow was recorded at Oswego, 50 inches (130 cm) of this falling on the last day of the storm alone.^[7] 50 inches (130 cm) of snow were also recorded at Camden, New York on the same day. The last day of the blizzard the winds subsided and snowburst conditions prevailed, with the snow falling straight down. Fair Haven did not have official snowfall records at the time, but state troopers reported measuring 100 inches (250 cm) of snow on the level, where none had been prior to the storm. Syracuse, New York received a record snowfall of 42.3 inches (107 cm) which remained their heaviest storm on record, until the Blizzard of 1993.^[7]

The storm lasted from January 27 to January 31, 1966, a total of 4½ days. The daily snowfall totals for Oswego are as follows.

• January 27, 1966: 8 inches (20 cm)
• January 28, 1966: 12 inches (30 cm)
• January 29, 1966: 11 inches (28 cm)
• January 30, 1966: 21 inches (53 cm)
• January 31, 1966: 50 inches (130 cm)

On January 22–23 of 1966, the city of Batavia and Genesee County had 2 feet (61 cm) of snow fall on that Saturday night alone. The only thing that prevented that snowstorm from becoming a true blizzard like this infamous one of the very next weekend was the lack of high winds.^[7]

That's a -NAO storm. Had to be a miller B to get Buf/Roc/Syr all involved with heavy snowfall and then primary took over and hit a block and retrograded to get cold air over lakes. Looks like my spot jackpotted off Erie for that one. 

[Thinksnow18]

21 minutes ago, rochesterdave said:

You need the decaying primary to serve as a conveyer. Or something. I hear ya Wolfie. They are rare but not impossible. 

I’m actually surprised it’s not, and I think that’s why the original models had more over WNY, I don’t think that idea is dead...yet

[wolfie09]

 

[Buffalo Bumble]

7 minutes ago, BuffaloWeather said:

That's a -NAO storm. Had to be a miller B to get Buf/Roc/Syr all involved with heavy snowfall and then primary took over and hit a block and retrograded to get cold air over lakes. Looks like my spot jackpotted off Erie for that one. 

Nope, straight up Miller A. Storm formed over Texas, crossed the northern Gulf, then headed towards the Chesapeake. That’s where it got fun for upstate NY. The Low bombed out, went full bore negative tilt, then tracked n/nw to Montreal. The kind of track we all dream about for max synoptic and lake enhancement. 

[Ericjcrash]

GFS isn't pretty. CCB still gets here but meh.

[BuffaloWeather]

Just now, Buffalo Bumble said:

Nope, straight up Miller A. Storm formed over Texas, crossed the northern Gulf, then headed towards the Chesapeake. That’s where it got fun for upstate NY. The Low bombed out, went full bore negative tilt, then tracked n/nw to Montreal. The kind of track we all dream about for max synoptic and lake enhancement. 

Yeah after looking at snowfall total distribution that is very rare track for our area, just perfection. 

[Ericjcrash]

[CNY_WX]

I was 11 years old and living in Little Falls when this storm hit. It was the storm that got me interested in winter weather. No school for a week. My older brother was in the Navy stationed in Groton, CT and he came home on a weekend leave on Friday with no clouds in the sky. He joked with his buddy who rode with him that if there was one flake in the air on Sunday they were going to call that they were snowed in. It turned out that they couldn’t get back to Connecticut until Wednesday. I think what really made this storm memorable were the extremely high winds. Whenever a road was plowed it would almost immediately drift back in. The Thruway was closed and hundreds of people were stuck at the rest stop just outside of Little Falls. The snowmobile was relatively new then and people with them were used to bring essential supplies to people stranded in the countryside. Because of the advances in snow removal I don’t think a similar storm would have the same impact today although it would still be bad in the lake effect areas. 
 

Edit: as an interesting side note the all time record low temperature of -26 in Syracuse was set a couple of days before the storm hit. 

[Buffalo Bumble]

From Northeast Snowstorms, Kocin and Uccellini 

IMG_1319.HEIC

[BuffaloWeather]

2 minutes ago, CNY_WX said:

I was 11 years old and living in Little Falls when this storm hit. It was the storm that got me interested in winter weather. No school for a week. My older brother was in the Navy stationed in Groton, CT and he came home on a weekend leave on Friday with no clouds in the sky. He joked with his buddy who rode with him that if there was one flake in the air on Sunday they were going to call that they were snowed in. It turned out that they couldn’t get back to Connecticut until Wednesday. I think what really made this storm memorable were the extremely high winds. Whenever a road was plowed it would almost immediately drift back in. The Thruway was closed and hundreds of people were stuck at the rest stop just outside of Little Falls. The snowmobile was relatively new then and people with them were used to bring essential supplies to people stranded in the countryside. Because of the advances in snow removal I don’t think a similar storm would have the same impact today although it would still be bad in the lake effect areas. 

Fascinating. That storm looks to be worst then the blizzard of 1993 for Syracuse. It's your guys version of the blizzard of 1977 in Buffalo. 

[96blizz]

8 minutes ago, Ericjcrash said:

Still going for some.  Gfs stinks with qpf in systems like this. 

[CNY_WX]

2 minutes ago, BuffaloWeather said:

Fascinating. That storm looks to be worst then the blizzard of 1993 for Syracuse. It's your guys version of the blizzard of 1977 in Buffalo. 

Except it covered most of central New York. Here’s a 500 mb chart from the storm. 

[SyracuseStorm]

7 minutes ago, Ericjcrash said:

I like it...baby steps...wiggle back n forth.  Would you be comfortable in the bullseye 48 hrs out?  I personally wouldn’t as we have learned even 24 hrs out- hell; 6 hrs out last event

[wolfie09]

Once again just need it to back in a little more, decent wrap around to my northeast..