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4 hours ago, Jonger said:

Diabetes itself isn't what does a person in, that's why they almost always say "complications" from diabetes. High blood sugar damages the heart, kidneys, eyes and liver. If you have controlled blood sugar you aren't dealing with any of that. 

This is impacting those who are diabetic worse, no matter what their blood sugar levels are. It is a known entity.

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21 minutes ago, Stebo said:

This is impacting those who are diabetic worse, no matter what their blood sugar levels are. It is a known entity.

Wrong.

Diabetics have either a lack of insulin production or they're insulin resistant. Neither of those conditions matter if you are replacing the insulin your body isn't making correctly.

You're 100% wrong here.

Tell me more about diabetes though.

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Just now, Jonger said:

Wrong.

Diabetics have either a lack of insulin production or they're insulin resistant. Neither of those conditions matter if you are replacing the insulin your body isn't making correctly.

You're 100% wrong here.

Tell me more about diabetes though.

I am talking about the virus impacting diabetics, not diabetes itself and I know plenty about it being pre-diabetic myself plus having a grandmother who was diabetic most of her life.

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Just now, Stebo said:

I am talking about the virus impacting diabetics, not diabetes itself and I know plenty about it being pre-diabetic myself plus having a grandmother who was diabetic most of her life.

Diabetes doesn't reduce life expectancy or health if blood sugars are managed.

You're a lightweight here bud, stay in your lane.

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1 minute ago, Jonger said:

Diabetes doesn't reduce life expectancy or health if blood sugars are managed.

You're a lightweight here bud, stay in your lane.

I am talking about diabetes and the virus for the third time, nothing else. I am sorry you are too damn ignorant to see past your own personal biases.

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Just now, Stebo said:

I am talking about diabetes and the virus for the third time, nothing else. I am sorry you are too damn ignorant to see past your own personal biases.

It's not about bias, it's a fact.

And why assume I'm the ignorant one here?

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Just now, Jonger said:

It's not about bias, it's a fact.

And why assume I'm the ignorant one here?

It's a fact that this virus directly impacts those who are diabetic way more than anyone else except the elderly. Yes I agree that is a fact.

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Just now, RyanDe680 said:

Wow, in FL the open ICU bed was at 1,411 2 days ago... today at 1,207

At this rate it is going to be 0 in 2 weeks. Fourth of July is going to make it worse too because none of them are taking any precautions down there.

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13 minutes ago, Jonger said:

It's not about bias, it's a fact.

And why assume I'm the ignorant one here?

Anyone using the word "Fact" in a medical discussion needs some redirection.  

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8 hours ago, Stebo said:

Like a genie, your wish has been granted

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I like this one better.  Whoever this guy is looks like a real baller.  Not even using an actual basketball and still didn't miss!

 

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High blood sugar damages the heart, kidneys, eyes and liver. If you have controlled blood sugar you aren't dealing with any of that. 

Wrong. Some of those issues can still come about in people who control it properly.


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Just now, Hoosier said:

I like this one better.  Whoever this guy is looks like a real baller.  Not even using an actual basketball and still didn't miss!

 

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We both know mine is funnier though :D

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Just now, Stebo said:

It's a fact that this virus directly impacts those who are diabetic way more than anyone else except the elderly. Yes I agree that is a fact.

Because diabetes can lead to complications that weaken the body to any infection.

But.... as I told you before.

Individuals with pre-existing conditions, such as type 2 diabetes, have a demonstrated higher risk for developing more severe cases of coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19) infection, leading to higher morbidity and mortality. A new study sheds light on improving outcomes for patients with type 2 diabetes who are infected with the virus, suggesting that a focus on blood glucose (BG) control may be key. 

https://www.drugtopics.com/view/covid-19-and-diabetes-blood-sugar-control-may-help-improve-outcomes

My sugar hasn't exceed 150 mg/dl in almost 2 years. So... that's why I responded the way I did.

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9 minutes ago, Chicago Storm said:


Wrong. Some of those issues can still come about in people who control it properly.


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Just like they can come about for people with no conditions, so you're right.

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And I can confidently say that not a single person on this subforum could beat me 1 on 1.

Since we all life close by, I'll meet ya in the middle and we can put that challenge to the test.

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In case anyone wasn't aware, my son is a type 1 diabetic. My life pretty much revolves around the disease. Most of this has been discussed with an endocrinologist.  I really wish I didn't have to know as much about it as I do, but I have a pretty vested interest in keeping my 9 year old alive and healthy.

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16 minutes ago, BeastFromTheEast said:

Can you even touch the rim Jongirl? I’m 5’8, 27yo and I can do this. . . 

Guarantee my nuts will be in yo face if we ball. 

 

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Um... yes, I can touch the rim.

I can't jump like I did when I was 27 (I'm 41).

That basketball gif was about 4 years ago when I started getting my ass back into shape after the T2 diabetes diagnosis. I was about 265 lbs. I'm 6' 5'' around 225 right now.

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2 hours ago, Jonger said:

Because diabetes can lead to complications that weaken the body to any infection.

But.... as I told you before.

Individuals with pre-existing conditions, such as type 2 diabetes, have a demonstrated higher risk for developing more severe cases of coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19) infection, leading to higher morbidity and mortality. A new study sheds light on improving outcomes for patients with type 2 diabetes who are infected with the virus, suggesting that a focus on blood glucose (BG) control may be key. 

https://www.drugtopics.com/view/covid-19-and-diabetes-blood-sugar-control-may-help-improve-outcomes

My sugar hasn't exceed 150 mg/dl in almost 2 years. So... that's why I responded the way I did.

You are citing a 2 month old study and it is "suggesting" the control "may" be the key. I would rather be careful than not anyways. This is still a great unknown.

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1 hour ago, RyanDe680 said:

I can about reach the net

Same :lmao: Basketball was never my sport though, terrible shot, slow down the court. I was more of a neighborhood football guy.

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On 6/28/2020 at 7:55 AM, RogueWaves said:

Whether you're personally in a position to accept it or not, there are many points to be made about the economic impact of C-19. Many here have been doing just that and what gives you the right to bully them not to continue to do so? Economically depressed lives matter! To some, that may be their only reality of this entire historical episode. But they can't comment? Now they have to forfeit that freedom of opinion as well? Perhaps you should hand over your next two paychecks to someone who's been put out of work by this to better understand the perspective.

Care about the economy? 

Wear a damn mask.

https://www.foxbusiness.com/markets/coronavirus-mask-mandate-boost-economy-goldman-sachs

From arguably the kings of capitalism - Goldman Sachs.

The economy depends on keeping the virus at bay - see Texas, Florida, Arizona shutting shit down, delaying school opening, hurting the economy because of the virus. Do the simple stuff that doesn't hurt the economy, please just wear a mask.

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4 hours ago, mattb65 said:

Care about the economy? 

Wear a damn mask.

https://www.foxbusiness.com/markets/coronavirus-mask-mandate-boost-economy-goldman-sachs

From arguably the kings of capitalism - Goldman Sachs.

The economy depends on keeping the virus at bay - see Texas, Florida, Arizona shutting shit down, delaying school opening, hurting the economy because of the virus. Do the simple stuff that doesn't hurt the economy, please just wear a mask.

How is it enforced though? Charleston, SC passed a mask law for the entire county, but ultimately business owners throwing people out is the only way this works. That's why the government IS SO STUPID. They should just pass a national mask law and fine the hell out of businesses if patrons are in there maskless. It's the one thing that boggles my mind, liberals want bigger government & universal healthcare, but then reality hits and you get a guy like Donald Trump in charge of it for at least 4 years :lol:

Enough of this please stuff. If this is that serious then lets see some serious enforcement instead of all this political grandstanding

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1 hour ago, nwohweather said:

How is it enforced though? Charleston, SC passed a mask law for the entire county, but ultimately business owners throwing people out is the only way this works. That's why the government IS SO STUPID. They should just pass a national mask law and fine the hell out of businesses if patrons are in there maskless. It's the one thing that boggles my mind, liberals want bigger government & universal healthcare, but then reality hits and you get a guy like Donald Trump in charge of it for at least 4 years :lol:

Enough of this please stuff. If this is that serious then lets see some serious enforcement instead of all this political grandstanding

Good luck with a national mask law. Public shaming/cancel culture seem to be making progress. If that won’t work, more lockdowns will do the trick. 

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1 hour ago, purduewx80 said:

Good luck with a national mask law. Public shaming/cancel culture seem to be making progress. If that won’t work, more lockdowns will do the trick. 

But that's the biggest issue. The thing you have to understand is you live in Chicago. At the end of February I moved from just south of Ann Arbor to here in Charleston, SC so I've experienced this entire pandemic here. I cannot relate to the fear in so many of your posts, simply because no one has ever been that concerned with it down here. Not the media, not the government, so how do you expect a Charlestonian to take this as seriously as someone in Chicago or Detroit? 

Here it's looked down upon for a man to be wearing a mask, and quite frankly a neighbor told me he won't wear one "because he doesn't like it in the backdoor". I live in a nice neighborhood, all households are well earning & most are educated, and yet most simply do not care about it. We have a mask law in place for the entire metro area, and yet it isn't really followed at all

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2 hours ago, nwohweather said:

How is it enforced though? Charleston, SC passed a mask law for the entire county, but ultimately business owners throwing people out is the only way this works. That's why the government IS SO STUPID. They should just pass a national mask law and fine the hell out of businesses if patrons are in there maskless. It's the one thing that boggles my mind, liberals want bigger government & universal healthcare, but then reality hits and you get a guy like Donald Trump in charge of it for at least 4 years :lol:

Enough of this please stuff. If this is that serious then lets see some serious enforcement instead of all this political grandstanding

Not sure how it would be enforced. Most liberals seem to be on board with wearing masks already. If the orange guy wanted to see the 'vid get under control and the economy start roaring back then he should go all in on getting his base to join the mask wearing crowd. Not sure how he could pull that sort of 180 but he's done it before. 

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3 hours ago, nwohweather said:

How is it enforced though? Charleston, SC passed a mask law for the entire county, but ultimately business owners throwing people out is the only way this works. That's why the government IS SO STUPID. They should just pass a national mask law and fine the hell out of businesses if patrons are in there maskless. It's the one thing that boggles my mind, liberals want bigger government & universal healthcare, but then reality hits and you get a guy like Donald Trump in charge of it for at least 4 years :lol:

Enough of this please stuff. If this is that serious then lets see some serious enforcement instead of all this political grandstanding

Easy, if a business keeps allowing people to come in setup a complaint line and shut the businesses down. Money talks and that will motivate people. If people still want to go maskless they can order their shit from home.

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