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12 hours ago, Stebo said:

There have been several packages sent through the house some with bipartisan support. It is the turtle slowing everything down in the Senate.

Sociopaths, all of them.. Easy to spot  them all out now.

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1 hour ago, NEOH said:

If the lab is still open in Wuhan they are probably working on developing other awful viruses. Who knows, maybe COVID is just the tip of the Chinese biological weapon spear. 

LOL.  And if you actually believe this....LMAO.

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3 minutes ago, Inverted_Trough said:

LOL.  And if you actually believe this....LMAO.

Oh you're right. The Chinese government are wonderful, terrific people who have the best interest of the US in mind. 

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Local hospitals here in PA creating extra wings and bringing in literally any doctor and or nurse from practices or possibly out of practice possible. Head of health system said if rate continues there is no way possible they can keep up. Sobering to see in your own backyard.

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22 minutes ago, NEOH said:

Oh you're right. The Chinese government are wonderful, terrific people who have the best interest of the US in mind. 

The vast majority of scientists and scientific papers from all of the world point to natural origin for sars cov 2. I understand the want to go to a more nefarious origin given issues with Chinese govt but the genomic data doesn't support it. 

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10 minutes ago, NEOH said:

Oh you're right. The Chinese government are wonderful, terrific people who have the best interest of the US in mind. 

They certainly don't.  But that doesn't mean they're cooking up viruses in labs.

Do you also believe that AIDS was created by our government to decimate the African American population?  Do you believe in Q?  What other conspiracies do you believe in?  Maybe it's time to step outside and get some fresh air.

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1 minute ago, OSUmetstud said:

The vast majority of scientist and scientific papers from all of the world point to natural origin for sars cov 2. I understand the want to go to a more nefarious origin given issues with Chinese govt but the genomic data doesn't support it. 

Unfortunately, conspiracy theorists don't read scientific papers nor evidence-based reasoning.  That's why I just laugh at them nowadays.  There is no point debating them.  They live on the dark web and 4chan message boards.  It's sad that many seemingly smart people actually believe this nonsense.

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24 minutes ago, Wmsptwx said:

Local hospitals here in PA creating extra wings and bringing in literally any doctor and or nurse from practices or possibly out of practice possible. Head of health system said if rate continues there is no way possible they can keep up. Sobering to see in your own backyard.

It happened here in April and was quite grim with morgue trucks outside the hospitals. Really hope the rest of the country isn’t headed that way. 

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Some of you are categorizing people as "sociopaths" way, way too easily. The number of people who think this is a hoax or completely disregard precautions at this point is very very low, no matter which side of the political spectrum you are on. I understand that when you have a job that allows you to work remotely it is hard to understand how people can't take every precaution necessary to prevent the virus, but there is a huge number of people in the country who HAVE to go to work to pay their bills, and at least at the moment, there isn't enough government support for them to do otherwise. There is a large number of intelligent people on this board, but an equal amount of ignorance into the every day livelihoods of a lot of Americans. It really is not as simple as "just stay home". Additionally, a lot of the people getting sick now are people who are going to see their friends and family members who they haven't seen in months and months. It is exceptionally difficult to not see your loved ones. This virus is just so contagious that even when people do things the right way, people are still going to catch it. My grandmother passed from Covid last week and was in a nursing home that was doing everything they could right. Every body always wants to be able to blame somebody for what is going on, but the truth is we are just in a terrible and hard situation that isn't easy at any level. It isn't as simple as educated vs uneducated, red vs blue, urban vs rural, ect ect, and anybody who wants to make it that simple is blindingly ignorant to the realities of the world. 

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3 minutes ago, BuffaloWeather said:

Will probably take 2-4 weeks if approved.  My department at Pfizer is actually the one that does the submissions.  Maybe by around Christmas time the first vaccinations can begin.

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1 hour ago, Wmsptwx said:

Local hospitals here in PA creating extra wings and bringing in literally any doctor and or nurse from practices or possibly out of practice possible. Head of health system said if rate continues there is no way possible they can keep up. Sobering to see in your own backyard.

+200 in Hospitalizations today in PA. 

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Just now, dta1984 said:

Denmark study that was referenced earlier

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23 percent reduction in infection from control to mask but it was underpowered so it didn't reach significance. Also didn't address whether others wearing masks protect you from them which was the original driver of wearing masks.

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1 minute ago, Stebo said:

I see that no mods have been around today because there has been a lot of bullshit in this thread all morning. Some of you need to just eject out of this thread. There is a thread in the New England subforum where you can post all your conspiracy bullshit and have it fester freely.

Weren't you the guy in here a few months ago saying that cases in the south were going crazy because they were all red states and nobody there was wearing masks? Turns out its a little more complicated than that huh?

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Just now, schoeppeya said:

Weren't you the guy in here a few months ago saying that cases in the south were going crazy because they were all red states and nobody there was wearing masks? Turns out its a little more complicated than that huh?

It was more than that, it was the people in the south not giving a shit either, which I also stated. You seem pretty cavalier here though for someone who has only 40 or so posts.

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1 minute ago, Stebo said:

It was more than that, it was the people in the south not giving a shit either, which I also stated. You seem pretty cavalier here though for someone who has only 40 or so posts.

How is my post count relevant? 

So what is going on in California, New York, Pennsylvania, and the Upper Midwest right now? Just more people who don't give a shit?

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1 minute ago, StormfanaticInd said:

250k+ gone forever. They are not coming back. 

250k+ gone and the COVID task force leader, somehow gets a pass for being a failure. america.

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1 minute ago, schoeppeya said:

How is my post count relevant? 

So what is going on in California, New York, Pennsylvania, and the Upper Midwest right now? Just more people who don't give a shit?

Cali is more people not giving a shit, the rest is more people being inside, less restrictions due to lawsuits, and complacency as you can see in this thread.

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6 minutes ago, schoeppeya said:

How is my post count relevant? 

So what is going on in California, New York, Pennsylvania, and the Upper Midwest right now? Just more people who don't give a shit?

This is where population density also plays a roll. Just saying. Please nobody call me fourteen or off my rocker again. My poor heart can't take it. 

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