Paragon Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 11 minutes ago, Dakota said: Since Lead averages 180 inches of snow annually and Rapid City about 50 inches...while the two are separated by just 32 miles as the crow flies; the forecasts are actually much harder here... That's less than the distance between Kennedy Airport and White Plains. I would actually be happy with the 50 even if White Plains got 180 lol- I guess you have to have low expectations out here when most years we don't even reach 30. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paragon Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 8 minutes ago, Dakota said: Be careful what you wish for; you just might get it... I think the closest thing to that I've experienced was 1993-94. If I remember right, JFK got about 45 inches of snow while LGA got 65 inches, not sure what White Plains got though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paragon Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 Just now, Dakota said: Snowfall 1993-94: LGA: 58.5" JFK: 45.2" Thanks did they measure snow at White Plains back then? I guess Bridgeport, CT would suffice too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gravitylover Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 If you want an accurate measurement for Westchester look up Jerome(?) Thaler and see what he had. He is the pre-eminent weather guru for the Lower Hudson Valley. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gravitylover Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 1 minute ago, Dakota said: Yes, the Yorktown Heights optometrist up on French Hill. Elevation 666'. What a number! I figured you'd know Jerry. Not only is he a dedicated weather nerd that wrote the definitive book on eastern NY weather,he's also a map nut. He used to be a distributor for USGS Topo maps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormlover74 Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 45 minutes ago, Paragon said: I think the closest thing to that I've experienced was 1993-94. If I remember right, JFK got about 45 inches of snow while LGA got 65 inches, not sure what White Plains got though. I was in state college that winter. We had 108". Snow on the ground for over 3 months straight and at least one storm a week. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psv88 Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 13 hours ago, Rjay said: KJFK 10/30/2017 02:19:26 GMT 130 27 G44KT KJFK 10/30/2017 02:17:23 GMT 130 27 G44KT Free dinner mf! nope. Dinner on me. And $20. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmillz25 Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 1 hour ago, Dakota said: Snowfall 1993-94: LGA: 58.5" JFK: 45.2" That's an insane gradient Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmillz25 Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 3 minutes ago, Dakota said: Here's a *really* good one: Snowfall 2004-05: Brookhaven / Upton: 78.5" JFK: 36.8" Btw welcome back! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rjay Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 2 hours ago, psv88 said: nope. Dinner on me. And $20. Getting conflicting info. I was watching the obs and saw when jfk gusted to 50 mph. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psv88 Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 32 minutes ago, Rjay said: Getting conflicting info. I was watching the obs and saw when jfk gusted to 50 mph. Maybe it was an incorrect reading? Flagged? Who knows. But according to the official storm reports, no NYC ASOS sites hit 50. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 3 hours ago, Dakota said: Here's a *really* good one: Snowfall 2004-05: Brookhaven / Upton: 78.5" JFK: 36.8" The other really interesting contrast that winter was with the January temperatures. NYC had the 7th warmest first half of January followed by 4th coldest 2nd half. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 50 minutes ago, Dakota said: That 78.5" of snow was squeezed out of just 9.85" of precipitation from December 1 - March 31. 0.5" of the snow did fall in November 2004; for purposes of precision. Since Long Island usually sees only 25 to maybe 30 percent of their winter precip in the form of snow (in an average year); to reach 80% was pretty amazing. Maximization of snowfall potential has been a running theme during the 2000's. JFK only had 40 days with below normal temperatures the last two winters with 72.3" of snow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forkyfork Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 imagine if people got this excited over fog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juliancolton Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 9 minutes ago, forkyfork said: imagine if people got this excited over fog Fog is awesome. Only radiation fog that you can climb above so it becomes an undercast, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 1 hour ago, Dakota said: I don't know about you; but I'd say most of it has been luck, i.e. random chance. Remember 1976-77...as cold as ice...and very paltry snow amounts around here. Or even December 1989...which I think was unusually cold...but practically snowless. Day to day excellence is absolutely meaningless. One must succeed only when it counts. Just an exceptional era of blocking since 2000 both in the North Atlantic and Pacific sectors. The record SST warmth has also helped to provide copious moisture and energy for our winter storms which was lacking in earlier era winters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paragon Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 5 hours ago, Dakota said: Here's another bad (or good, depending on your perspective) one: Snowfall 2012-13 Islip: 46.9" JFK: 17.6" ________ It is snowing at a pretty decent clip here right now. I didn't see anyone on the evening news predict it... Some things never change... blah that was a really bad one, I can't stand <20" snowfall seasons, most of that came in one storm that was predicted to drop 3 feet of snow in NYC and it ended up in Suffolk County instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paragon Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 1 hour ago, Dakota said: I don't know about you; but I'd say most of it has been luck, i.e. random chance. Remember 1976-77...as cold as ice...and very paltry snow amounts around here. Or even December 1989...which I think was unusually cold...but practically snowless. Day to day excellence is absolutely meaningless. One must succeed only when it counts. No, it's probably not chance since total precip has been on a steep increase since the 70s. I remember the 70s/80s and it was an entirely different climate back then- big precip events were much much more rare. There's been a huge increase in 2"+ and even 3"+ precip events. There's been a big increase in total annual precip too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paragon Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 3 minutes ago, Dakota said: Now that one was genuine fun! I remember the LIE became a parking lot lol, it was sort of like Boxing Day 2010 moved 60 miles further east. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paragon Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 19 minutes ago, Dakota said: It is probably a little wetter than it once was; but does that really factor so substantially into the augmented snow totals? For example, if the average rainfall was say 42" in 1975 and it is say 44" nowadays; that means only 2 more inches of rain spread over 12 months. Since most snow falls in a three month interval (Dec - Feb)...the increase there is just 25% of the 2" increase or 0.50". Then factor in the fact that just 25% of the winter's precip is snow on Long Island in an average year anyway...and you are left with just 0.125 inches of new snow above the old mean in L.E. terms; or a paltry 1 1/4 inch increase in average annual snowfall per your theory. But average increase of annual snowfall totals vs more frequency of big precip snow "bombs" are two different things. As you know, one big event can make up for an entire season's snowfall (a great example of this was the January 2016 big snow that dumped over 30" here.) The average annual rainfall went from around 40" during the 70s/80s to around 50" now, which is a pretty significant increase. The increase in snowfall should be transitional anyway, in a warming climate, we'll eventually get past this stage. The increasing precip totals, higher humidity levels and higher temps will have much more long term impacts though, including more tropical diseases spreading into our area (we've already been seeing that over the past decade.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paragon Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 13 minutes ago, Dakota said: Soooo snowy.... PUBLIC INFORMATION STATEMENT SPOTTER REPORTS NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE NEW YORK NY 315 PM EST SAT FEB 09 2013 SUFFOLK COUNTY... MEDFORD 33.5 1015 AM 2/09 PUBLIC UPTON 30.9 900 AM 2/09 NWS OFFICE CENTRAL ISLIP 30.7 815 AM 2/09 PUBLIC COMMACK 29.1 530 AM 2/09 PUBLIC HUNTINGTON 29.0 630 AM 2/09 SKYWARN SPOTTER EAST SETAUKET 28.5 641 AM 2/09 PUBLIC YAPHANK 28.1 1140 AM 2/09 PUBLIC STONY BROOK 28.0 730 AM 2/09 SKYWARN SPOTTER ISLIP AIRPORT 27.8 700 AM 2/09 FAA CONTRACT OBSERVER I remember some place recorded 40"- might have been CT? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmillz25 Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 6 minutes ago, Dakota said: ...NEW HAVEN COUNTY... HAMDEN 40.0 100 PM 2/09 PUBLIC MILFORD 38.0 615 AM 2/09 PUBLIC CLINTONVILLE 37.0 1040 AM 2/09 SKYWARN SPOTTER OXFORD 36.2 600 AM 2/09 SKYWARN SPOTTER NORTH BRANFORD 36.0 1100 AM 2/09 PUBLIC MERIDEN 36.0 200 PM 2/09 PUBLIC YALESVILLE 35.0 909 AM 2/09 SKYWARN SPOTTER WALLINGFORD 35.0 700 AM 2/09 PUBLIC NEW HAVEN 34.3 600 AM 2/09 CT DOT ...FAIRFIELD COUNTY... FAIRFIELD 35.0 1000 AM 2/09 PUBLIC STRATFORD 33.0 1030 AM 2/09 PUBLIC MONROE 30.0 900 AM 2/09 SKYWARN SPOTTER BRIDGEPORT 30.0 658 AM 2/09 COOP OBSERVER That's amazing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jm1220 Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 1 hour ago, Paragon said: I remember some place recorded 40"- might have been CT? I ended up with about a foot. A ton was wasted on the front end with sleet and rain in Long Beach. We had almost as much liquid as areas east of us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeatherFeen2000 Posted October 31, 2017 Author Share Posted October 31, 2017 Cutter city according to the GFS 18z I'm almost crying p.s. Welcome back Pam we missed you. You’re about to get some snow Wednesday. Take some pictures for us feens Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rjay Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 6 hours ago, Rjay said: Getting conflicting info. I was watching the obs and saw when jfk gusted to 50 mph. Let me know when Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrishRob17 Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 2 minutes ago, Rjay said: Let me know when Are you having a conversation with yourself? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rjay Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 25 minutes ago, IrishRob17 said: Are you having a conversation with yourself? Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rjay Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 @psv88. Let me know when 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psv88 Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 10 minutes ago, Rjay said: @psv88. Let me know when Ok. Well coordinate with lil bro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeatherFeen2000 Posted October 31, 2017 Author Share Posted October 31, 2017 18 minutes ago, Dakota said: Thnxs so much WeatherFeen! Did you decide on that job offer I made you last week? I know I originally promised you $10 a week; but because you drive such a hard bargain; I've decided to double what I was offering and make it $20 a month! What do you say? I'm a lot more expensive than that but you never know let me think about it. does anyone want to guess my real name? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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