Roy Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 Many damage reports yet? Multiple warnings talked about a large tornado over towns etc., but haven't seen anything posted yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Martin Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 Just now, Roy said: Many damage reports yet? Multiple warnings talked about a large tornado over towns etc., but haven't seen anything posted yet. Sometimes those reports would come after the event is over from what I have seen in the past. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Natester Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 From this morning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CryHavoc Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 1 minute ago, Natester said: From this morning. Nasty. Hopefully that didn't hit any populated areas, it would be so hard to see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jojo762 Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 BMX VWP leaves a lot to be desired... just not gonna happen. Everything else is good, we have multiple discrete cells, strong instability, and strong bulk-shear. Very little low-level hodograph curvature. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pbrussell Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 10 minutes ago, Buckeye05 said: To be fair, I think it's safe to say that the window for this event to reach its ceiling of potential is closing fast. In terms of failure mode, this is exactly what I was expecting in terms of how things would play out if the event were to under perform; scattered supercells that struggle to develop and maintain significant low level rotation. From the moment I got up this morning, the overall unidirectional wind profile did not sit well with me. I'm sure the persistent stratiform precip and upscale growth throughout the day probably didn't help either. Seems that low cape high srh works better than high cape and low srh. Gotta have the right wind fields. Still made for some giant sups that were fun to watch though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckeyefan1 Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 Hwy 378 and I 20 in Lexington County SC earlier today. This is near the hospital about 8 miles, as the crow flies, from my house. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janetjanet998 Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 4 minutes ago, Buckeye05 said: I am not seeing whatever you are seeing. I meant to say forming...(but struggling) new t-storm AC077-149-199-285-060000- /O.NEW.KFFC.SV.W.0149.170405T2312Z-170406T0000Z/ BULLETIN - IMMEDIATE BROADCAST REQUESTED SEVERE THUNDERSTORM WARNING NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE PEACHTREE CITY GA 712 PM EDT WED APR 5 2017 THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN PEACHTREE CITY HAS ISSUED A * SEVERE THUNDERSTORM WARNING FOR... NORTHERN MERIWETHER COUNTY IN WEST CENTRAL GEORGIA... EAST CENTRAL HEARD COUNTY IN WEST CENTRAL GEORGIA... NORTHEASTERN TROUP COUNTY IN WEST CENTRAL GEORGIA... SOUTHERN COWETA COUNTY IN WEST CENTRAL GEORGIA... * UNTIL 800 PM EDT * AT 712 PM EDT, A SEVERE THUNDERSTORM WAS LOCATED OVER HOGANSVILLE, OR 10 MILES NORTHEAST OF LAGRANGE, MOVING EAST AT 45 MPH. HAZARD...60 MPH WIND GUSTS AND PENNY SIZE HAIL. SOURCE...RADAR INDICATED. TORNADO...POSSIBLE HAIL...0.75IN WIND...60MPH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wmsptwx Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 1 minute ago, jojo762 said: BMX VWP leaves a lot to be desired... just not gonna happen. Everything else is good, we have multiple discrete cells, strong instability, and strong bulk-shear. Very little low-level hodograph curvature. Just one of those deals, everything was right outside of that, but sometimes all it takes is one element not quite right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 14 minutes ago, buckeyefan1 said: I am too Folks....Keep the banter elsewhere before you are on the outside trying to look in I think I've read/learned more about wedges in this thread than I had in my entire life. I suppose it's relevant discussion until the comparisons to winter setups are made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckeye05 Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 Just now, SmokeEater said: Are you 2? Enough. You've stated how you feel 800 times, stop mucking up the thread with crap with storms ongoing. I mean you can tow the "It's not a bust until every storm has dissipated!!!" line as much as you want, but honestly, I've seen this exchange before and in the end he's right, even if he isn't going about it in the best way. Everyone jumped down people's throats for calling bust during the unidirectional grunge-fest that was 1/22/17, even though in the end they weren't wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pbrussell Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 2 minutes ago, Hoosier said: I think I've read/learned more about wedges in this thread than I had in my entire life. I suppose it's relevant discussion until the comparisons to winter setups are made. But what about wedge tornadoes bro? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Natester Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 8 minutes ago, jojo762 said: BMX VWP leaves a lot to be desired... just not gonna happen. Everything else is good, we have multiple discrete cells, strong instability, and strong bulk-shear. Very little low-level hodograph curvature. Alabama lucked out big time although it might be a bit too early to say that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jojo762 Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 1 minute ago, Buckeye05 said: I mean you can tow the "It's not a bust until every storm has dissipated!!!" line as much as you want, but honestly, I've seen this exchange before and in the end he's right, even if he isn't going about it in the best way. Everyone jumped down people's throats for calling bust during the unidirectional grunge-fest that was 1/22/17, even though in the end they weren't wrong. Yep... If things were meant to be we would absolutely have a full blown tornado outbreak right now. There are over seven discrete cells in the warm sector right now across AL/GA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pbrussell Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 Early in the season folks. Don't let yer jimmies get too rustled. We'll be watching more tight velocity signatures soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
audioguy3107 Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 1 minute ago, Buckeye05 said: I mean you can tow the "It's not a bust until every storm has dissipated!!!" line as much as you want, but honestly, I've seen this exchange before and in the end he's right, even if he isn't going about it in the best way. Everyone jumped down people's throats for calling bust during the unidirectional grunge-fest that was 1/22/17, even though in the end they weren't wrong. This. I never call a bust early, (unless it involves snow in the SE it that's another story) but I think what ticks posters and the mods on here are the quick one liners and snide comments......well, this is a bust, for example. This is a great forum with incredibly knowledgeable people, so it would be more helpful to write up a paragraph explaining why so others can learn rather than the annoying comments. That being said, I,think part of the frustration for posters in north Georgia is how often the CAD and residual cold pools that stay anchored over the state prevent them from experiencing exciting weather. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calderon Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 2 minutes ago, tim123 said: Umm some people just can't deal with being wrong. I deal with this living near Lake ontario with lake snow and severe weather. It's even harder to predict weather up here That may be true, but you don't have to be a dick about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Upper Level LOL Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 2 minutes ago, tim123 said: Umm some people just can't deal with being wrong. I deal with this living near Lake ontario with lake snow and severe weather. It's even harder to predict weather up here Great contribution Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckeyefan1 Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 9 minutes ago, Buckeye05 said: I mean you can tow the "It's not a bust until every storm has dissipated!!!" line as much as you want, but honestly, I've seen this exchange before and in the end he's right, even if he isn't going about it in the best way. Everyone jumped down people's throats for calling bust during the unidirectional grunge-fest that was 1/22/17, even though in the end they weren't wrong. It's not about anything other than being an arse He is now on vacation Now....back to your regular broadcasting schedule Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wmsptwx Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 The wedge may have little overall impact, even in Eastern Alabama the cells are struggling to produce. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SmokeEater Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 I mean you can tow the "It's not a bust until every storm has dissipated!!!" line as much as you want, but honestly, I've seen this exchange before and in the end he's right, even if he isn't going about it in the best way. Everyone jumped down people's throats for calling bust during the unidirectional grunge-fest that was 1/22/17, even though in the end they weren't wrong. Never once did I say it's not a bust until everything is dissipated, but like I complained earlier about people calling bust at 1pm, that's beyond stupid. But that's fine if you don't mind a guy from New England making his only posts in this sub forum, not adding a damn thing scientifically, only saying how people can't take the truth like we have something invested in this like SPC or NWS. If this was done in the NE forum, people would have his head, lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zinski1990 Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 I wasn't trying to be a trolling idiot earlier saying bust. It was just what my feeling of this event was. From what most predicted earlier by now there would be a line of tornado super cells maintaining character for longer than 5 minutes. Pretty much noticed the event would not materialize like thought after cooler Temps from wedge coupled with hours of clouds and storms in a slow moving storm complex. That's all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jojo762 Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 Interested to see if the SPC drops all of the moderate-risk probabilities at 01Z. Only a handful of SVR-warned cells across the MDT risk area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wmsptwx Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 1 minute ago, jojo762 said: Interested to see if the SPC drops all of the moderate-risk probabilities at 01Z. Only a handful of SVR-warned cells across the MDT risk area. My guess is a few localized enhanced regions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomp2mp Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 So.. to distract from the ball-busting going on in this thread: what happened in the high-risk area to mitigate the severe weather? Just asking because I am nowhere near an expert. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Martin Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 Just a reminder folks. It is still very early in the convective weather season. Still many more chances for severe weather. Sometimes this happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janetjanet998 Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 This pretty much sums up the problem(s) MESOSCALE DISCUSSION 0452 NWS STORM PREDICTION CENTER NORMAN OK 0647 PM CDT WED APR 05 2017 AREAS AFFECTED...CENTRAL AND EASTERN KENTUCKY...CENTRAL AND EASTERN TENNESSEE...EASTERN ALABAMA...AND NORTHWESTERN GEORGIA CONCERNING...TORNADO WATCH 127... VALID 052347Z - 060045Z THE SEVERE WEATHER THREAT FOR TORNADO WATCH 127 CONTINUES. SUMMARY...SCATTERED THUNDERSTORMS CAPABLE OF ALL SEVERE MODES CONTINUE ACROSS THE REGION AT THIS TIME. LOCAL SPATIAL EXTENSIONS OF THE WATCH MAY BE NEEDED AS STORMS APPROACH EASTERN TENNESSEE AND EASTERN KENTUCKY OVER THE NEXT HOUR OR SO. DISCUSSION...THE SEVERE WEATHER THREAT CONTINUES ACROSS PORTIONS OF WW 127 JUST AHEAD OF A SURFACE TROUGH/DRYLINE THAT EXTENDS FROM CENTRAL KENTUCKY SOUTHWARD TO NEAR SELMA, ALABAMA. STORMS JUST AHEAD OF THIS TROUGH HAVE DEVELOPED INTO BROKEN BANDS WITH OCCASIONAL MESOCYCLONES AND BOW ECHOES ACROSS CENTRAL KENTUCKY. THE PRESENCE OF BACKED LOW-LEVEL FLOW ACROSS THIS REGION AND AROUND 1000 J/KG MUCAPE HAS FOSTERED UPDRAFT ROTATION IN A FEW OF THE MORE ISOLATED CELLS. FARTHER SOUTH, MORE CELLULAR CONVECTION HAS DEVELOPED AMIDST A WEAKLY CAPPED, MODERATELY UNSTABLE AIRMASS. A FEW MESOCYCLONES HAVE DEVELOPED WITH THE STRONGER STORMS, ALTHOUGH SOMEWHAT VEERED FLOW IN ALABAMA HAS FOSTERED SPLITTING SUPERCELLS AND HAVE PERHAPS HINDERED THE TORNADO THREAT THERE SOMEWHAT. FURTHERMORE, LOW-LEVEL BACKED FLOW IN PORTIONS OF FAR EASTERN ALABAMA AND NORTHERN GEORGIA HAS OCCURRED AMIDST COOLER SURFACE TEMPERATURES AS THE REGION REMAINS INFLUENCED BY AN ONGOING MCS FARTHER EAST ACROSS SOUTH CAROLINA. THUS FAR, STORMS HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE MORE BACKED LOW-LEVEL FLOW, LIKELY OWING TO CELLULAR CONVECTION BECOMING QUICKLY ELEVATED ONCE THE MOVE INTO THE RAIN-COOLED AIRMASS OVER GEORGIA. THE TORNADO POTENTIAL STILL REMAINS WITH THIS ACTIVITY, ESPECIALLY AS CELLS CROSS INTO THIS RAIN-COOLED AIRMASS. DAMAGING WIND GUSTS AND ESPECIALLY LARGE HAIL REMAIN LIKELY WITH THIS ACTIVITY. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SmokeEater Posted April 6, 2017 Share Posted April 6, 2017 Is this a good depiction of the wedge? lol Notice how the hail tracks just about stop dead at the GA line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nwohweather Posted April 6, 2017 Share Posted April 6, 2017 Boy this thread turned into a dumpster fire lol why are we arguing about weather like this?Today was absolutely a major busy anyway you slice it as well as an important lesson in physics. IMO the SPC was very reckless in issuing a high risk, when you have an atmosphere continually worked over by rounds of storms you don't go guns blazing on full alert. While the ingredients were indeed alarming to say the least this was way too hyped up todaySent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wmsptwx Posted April 6, 2017 Share Posted April 6, 2017 Wow, svr warnings aren't even being upheld for some of the cells. Pretty surprising how quick this fell apart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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