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Upstate NY/North Country + adjacent ON, QC, VT: End of Fall/Into Winter!


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Anyone live in Amherst, NY?  They seem to be getting pummeled in this setup.

Family in Williamsville says at least 6 inches. Seems like the northern band gave them a good dumping.

 

Meanwhile here in NW West Seneca, 1.8 inches. Just on the southern edge of the hole between the two bands. And downtown has maybe a dusting. Shear got us bad.

 

Looks like it was all going to melt Sunday anyway, so *shrug*. At least Cuomo should be pleased with that 14-18 inches NWS projected for me.

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Report of 8 inches in Hamburg not sure from who but happy near years all staying at my parents house in amherst cheektowaga border 1 inch here

They should've issued a high wind warning instead of that LES warning, winds have been more impressive than the snow so far and whatever little coating we had on the ground here in the city is gone LOL. :lmao:

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Always weary of low moisture/high wind LES events. They nearly always underperform. Some good totals near the Tug. The winner off of Lake Erie was probably someone in Genesee county.

...CHAUTAUQUA COUNTY...
1 WNW FREDONIA 2.9 600 AM 1/01 COCORAHS

...ERIE COUNTY...
2 S AKRON 6.5 800 AM 1/01 COCORAHS
ENE EAST AURORA 6.4 830 AM 1/01 COCORAHS
2 SSW BLASDELL 6.0 700 AM 1/01 COCORAHS
4 NW ALDEN 6.0 700 AM 1/01 COCORAHS
3 WSW ELMA 6.0 700 AM 1/01 COCORAHS
2 NE BOSTON 5.0 900 AM 1/01 COCORAHS
2 W WEST SENECA 3.3 800 AM 1/01 COCORAHS
NY BUFFALO INTL ARPT 1.6 700 AM 1/01 ASOS
3 NE CHEEKTOWAGA 1.6 700 AM 1/01 COCORAHS
BUFFALO-NIAGARA INTL 1.6 654 AM 1/01 COOP OBSERVER
3 ESE TONAWANDA 1.4 700 AM 1/01 COCORAHS
ESE KENMORE 1.3 855 AM 1/01 COCORAHS
3 E WILLIAMSVILLE 0.5 800 AM 1/01 COCORAHS

...GENESEE COUNTY...
2 NE STAFFORD 8.1 700 AM 1/01 NWS EMPLOYEE

 

...JEFFERSON COUNTY...
FORT DRUM 17.0 646 PM 1/01 SOCIAL MEDIA
WATERTOWN 16.4 610 PM 1/01 SOCIAL MEDIA
ADAMS 16.0 605 PM 1/01 SOCIAL MEDIA
GREAT BEND 14.0 500 PM 1/01 SOCIAL MEDIA
PHILADELPHIA 11.0 639 PM 1/01 SOCIAL MEDIA
CHAUMONT 8.0 639 PM 1/01 SOCIAL MEDIA
DEPAUVILLE 5.6 600 PM 1/01 SOCIAL MEDIA

...LEWIS COUNTY...
SW BEAVER FALLS 6.0 700 AM 1/01 COCORAHS
LOWVILLE 3.5 700 AM 1/01 COOP OBSERVER
HIGHMARKET 2.4 500 AM 1/01 COOP OBSERVER
1 NW CONSTABLEVILLE 0.5 600 AM 1/01 COCORAHS
2 W GLENFIELD 0.4 700 AM 1/01 COOP OBSERVER

...MONROE COUNTY...
5 WNW ROCHESTER 2.8 700 AM 1/01 COCORAHS
ROCHESTER INTL ARPT 2.6 700 AM 1/01 ASOS

...NIAGARA COUNTY...
1 NNE NORTH TONAWAND 0.4 700 AM 1/01 COCORAHS

...OSWEGO COUNTY...
1 NE PULASKI 19.0 600 AM 1/01 COCORAHS
SE MINETTO 12.5 800 AM 1/01 COCORAHS
4 SSE LACONA 3.7 700 AM 1/01 COCORAHS

...WYOMING COUNTY...
3 W WYOMING 8.0 700 AM 1/01 COOP OBSERVER
3 N SILVER SPRINGS 0.4 700 AM 1/01 COOP OBSERVER

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Storm Totals. Under-performer across the board. Highest were 13.5" off of Lake Erie and 20.1" off of Lake Ontario.

 

LOCATION STORM TOTAL TIME/DATE COMMENTS
SNOWFALL OF
/INCHES/ MEASUREMENT

NEW YORK

...CATTARAUGUS COUNTY...
FRANKLINVILLE 2.0 700 AM 1/02 COOP OBSERVER
5 N ALLEGANY 1.9 700 AM 1/02 COCORAHS

...CHAUTAUQUA COUNTY...
FREDONIA 3.5 700 AM 1/02 COCORAHS
JAMESTOWN 2.3 700 AM 1/02 COOP OBSERVER
DUNKIRK 1.5 1200 AM 1/02 TRAINED SPOTTER

...ERIE COUNTY...
WALES 7.9 700 AM 1/02 COOP OBSERVER
3 WSW ELMA 6.5 700 AM 1/02 COCORAHS
2 NE BOSTON 6.1 700 AM 1/02 COCORAHS
2 W WEST SENECA 3.3 700 AM 1/02 COCORAHS
NY BUFFALO INTL ARPT 1.7 700 AM 1/02 ASOS
2 NNW WILLIAMSVILLE 1.5 700 AM 1/02 COCORAHS
3 ESE TONAWANDA 1.4 700 AM 1/02 COCORAHS
KENMORE 1.3 700 AM 1/02 COCORAHS

...GENESEE COUNTY...
STAFFORD 9.1 700 AM 1/02 NWS EMPLOYEE

...JEFFERSON COUNTY...
3 SW NATURAL BRIDGE 20.1 805 AM 1/02 TRAINED SPOTTER
FORT DRUM 17.0 646 PM 1/01 SOCIAL MEDIA
WATERTOWN 16.4 610 PM 1/01 SOCIAL MEDIA
3 S ADAMS 16.0 935 PM 1/01 SOCIAL MEDIA
ADAMS 16.0 605 PM 1/01 SOCIAL MEDIA
GREAT BEND 14.0 500 PM 1/01 SOCIAL MEDIA
MANNSVILLE 13.6 700 AM 1/02 COCORAHS
3 S THERESA 13.5 700 AM 1/02 COCORAHS
2 SW CARTHAGE 12.6 700 AM 1/02 COCORAHS
PHILADELPHIA 11.0 639 PM 1/01 SOCIAL MEDIA
CHAUMONT 8.0 639 PM 1/01 SOCIAL MEDIA
DEPAUVILLE 5.6 600 PM 1/01 SOCIAL MEDIA

...LEWIS COUNTY...
BEAVER FALLS 11.5 700 AM 1/02 COCORAHS
LOWVILLE 9.0 700 AM 1/02 COOP OBSERVER
CONSTABLEVILLE 8.2 500 AM 1/02 COOP OBSERVER
1 NW CONSTABLEVILLE 7.0 700 AM 1/02 COCORAHS
GLENFIELD 6.0 802 AM 1/02 COOP OBSERVER

...LIVINGSTON COUNTY...
AVON 4.3 715 AM 1/02 COOP OBSERVER

...MONROE COUNTY...
NORTH CHILI 4.0 700 AM 1/02 COCORAHS
2 ENE BROCKPORT 3.5 700 AM 1/02 COCORAHS
ROCHESTER INTL ARPT 3.5 700 AM 1/02 ASOS

...NIAGARA COUNTY...
1 NNE NORTH TONAWAND 2.9 700 AM 1/02 COCORAHS
YOUNGSTOWN 2.4 800 AM 1/02 COOP OBSERVER

...OSWEGO COUNTY...
5 ESE OSWEGO 24.2 700 AM 1/02 COCORAHS
PULASKI 23.3 700 AM 1/02 COCORAHS
MINETTO 19.9 700 AM 1/02 COCORAHS
FULTON 7.4 700 AM 1/02 COOP OBSERVER

...WAYNE COUNTY...
NEWARK 2.4 700 AM 1/02 COOP OBSERVER

...WYOMING COUNTY...
3 W WYOMING 13.5 700 AM 1/02 COOP OBSERVER
WARSAW 7.2 700 AM 1/02 COOP OBSERVER
3 N SILVER SPRINGS 3.3 700 AM 1/02 COOP OBSERVER

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Storm Totals. Under-performer across the board. Highest were 13.5" off of Lake Erie and 20.1" off of Lake Ontario.

LOCATION STORM TOTAL TIME/DATE COMMENTS

SNOWFALL OF

/INCHES/ MEASUREMENT

NEW YORK

...CATTARAUGUS COUNTY...

FRANKLINVILLE 2.0 700 AM 1/02 COOP OBSERVER

5 N ALLEGANY 1.9 700 AM 1/02 COCORAHS

...CHAUTAUQUA COUNTY...

FREDONIA 3.5 700 AM 1/02 COCORAHS

JAMESTOWN 2.3 700 AM 1/02 COOP OBSERVER

DUNKIRK 1.5 1200 AM 1/02 TRAINED SPOTTER

...ERIE COUNTY...

WALES 7.9 700 AM 1/02 COOP OBSERVER

3 WSW ELMA 6.5 700 AM 1/02 COCORAHS

2 NE BOSTON 6.1 700 AM 1/02 COCORAHS

2 W WEST SENECA 3.3 700 AM 1/02 COCORAHS

NY BUFFALO INTL ARPT 1.7 700 AM 1/02 ASOS

2 NNW WILLIAMSVILLE 1.5 700 AM 1/02 COCORAHS

3 ESE TONAWANDA 1.4 700 AM 1/02 COCORAHS

KENMORE 1.3 700 AM 1/02 COCORAHS

...GENESEE COUNTY...

STAFFORD 9.1 700 AM 1/02 NWS EMPLOYEE

...JEFFERSON COUNTY...

3 SW NATURAL BRIDGE 20.1 805 AM 1/02 TRAINED SPOTTER

FORT DRUM 17.0 646 PM 1/01 SOCIAL MEDIA

WATERTOWN 16.4 610 PM 1/01 SOCIAL MEDIA

3 S ADAMS 16.0 935 PM 1/01 SOCIAL MEDIA

ADAMS 16.0 605 PM 1/01 SOCIAL MEDIA

GREAT BEND 14.0 500 PM 1/01 SOCIAL MEDIA

MANNSVILLE 13.6 700 AM 1/02 COCORAHS

3 S THERESA 13.5 700 AM 1/02 COCORAHS

2 SW CARTHAGE 12.6 700 AM 1/02 COCORAHS

PHILADELPHIA 11.0 639 PM 1/01 SOCIAL MEDIA

CHAUMONT 8.0 639 PM 1/01 SOCIAL MEDIA

DEPAUVILLE 5.6 600 PM 1/01 SOCIAL MEDIA

...LEWIS COUNTY...

BEAVER FALLS 11.5 700 AM 1/02 COCORAHS

LOWVILLE 9.0 700 AM 1/02 COOP OBSERVER

CONSTABLEVILLE 8.2 500 AM 1/02 COOP OBSERVER

1 NW CONSTABLEVILLE 7.0 700 AM 1/02 COCORAHS

GLENFIELD 6.0 802 AM 1/02 COOP OBSERVER

...LIVINGSTON COUNTY...

AVON 4.3 715 AM 1/02 COOP OBSERVER

...MONROE COUNTY...

NORTH CHILI 4.0 700 AM 1/02 COCORAHS

2 ENE BROCKPORT 3.5 700 AM 1/02 COCORAHS

ROCHESTER INTL ARPT 3.5 700 AM 1/02 ASOS

...NIAGARA COUNTY...

1 NNE NORTH TONAWAND 2.9 700 AM 1/02 COCORAHS

YOUNGSTOWN 2.4 800 AM 1/02 COOP OBSERVER

...OSWEGO COUNTY...

5 ESE OSWEGO 24.2 700 AM 1/02 COCORAHS

PULASKI 23.3 700 AM 1/02 COCORAHS

MINETTO 19.9 700 AM 1/02 COCORAHS

FULTON 7.4 700 AM 1/02 COOP OBSERVER

...WAYNE COUNTY...

NEWARK 2.4 700 AM 1/02 COOP OBSERVER

...WYOMING COUNTY...

3 W WYOMING 13.5 700 AM 1/02 COOP OBSERVER

WARSAW 7.2 700 AM 1/02 COOP OBSERVER

3 N SILVER SPRINGS 3.3 700 AM 1/02 COOP OBSERVER

24.2" 5mi ESE of Oswego but still in general an underperformer for you guys :( don't complain too much though, I've only seen one trace of snowfall at my location so far this season so things could always be worse lol.
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24.2" 5mi ESE of Oswego but still in general an underperformer for you guys :( don't complain too much though, I've only seen one trace of snowfall at my location so far this season so things could always be worse lol.

 

Opps, totally missed that one. How is everything going in Rhode Island? Hopefully you can get some good Nor'Easters there soon.

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At least next week will be active round here.

 

Clipper Tuesday should at least be an inch or two with some SW lake enhancement potential. Bitter cold moist NW flow Wed. And early Friday catches my eye... most models suggest a cold moist SW/WSW for a fair period, although it comes with dreaded high winds again..

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At least next week will be active round here.

 

Clipper Tuesday should at least be an inch or two with some SW lake enhancement potential. Bitter cold moist NW flow Wed. And early Friday catches my eye... most models suggest a cold moist SW/WSW for a fair period, although it comes with dreaded high winds again..

 

Definitely some good potential next week. Those 2 clippers look solid along with shifting winds with lake enhancement. Those temps next week are going to freeze over the western basin quickly though.

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Definitely some good potential next week. Those 2 clippers look solid along with shifting winds with lake enhancement. Those temps next week are going to freeze over the western basin quickly though

Someone east/southeast of Lake Ontario looks to cash in big time this week.  Looks like some much needed snow too well south of B'lo in ski country.  Hopefully everyone can see a few inches between the clipper and arctic fropa early this week to go along with the frigid temps.  I'm just happy we'll stay below freezing next weekend for a change so i can get the snowshoes and/or skis out.  Seems like we've been stuck in a pattern of some snow/cold weather during the week and blast furnace with rain on weekends for a while now.  

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So, allegedly some lake snow will fall over the next few days, mostly in the usual places east of Lake Ontario and Erie. The 6 people that live on the Tug should enjoy it /sarc. Some minor snows from clipper systems for everyone outside of the lake snow areas. And it'll be January cold for a bit. Hopefully not too windy. I'm no longer a fanboy of face ripping low wind chill weather.

Now that two winter months are in the books (yes I know Nov is not even met winter, but this is upstate NY and Nov is in play), what grade would you give them?

Nov: A- (the - is cuz I don't live just south of Buffalo ;))

Dec: C- (the - is for the poor form of a green XMas and generally mild, not quite snowless, holiday season)

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Tuesday clipper looking like we'll get fringed at best now. And my location is the worst spot for these W-NW events. Only decent hope really is ahead of the shortwave Thu Night-Early Fri, and even that looks to be only a brief hope with likely shear.

 

At least Lake Erie should still be in play for at least most of January. Long ways until it gets to freezing.

 

Nov: F (Way too much to enjoy, serious threats about your safety suck that arose with the snow pack and quick melt)

Dec: A (A nice week of snow with that Nor'easter D-Zone that would never leave. And maybe the snow lovers hated it, but that week of spring around 25 December was awesome.)

 

I don't know why more of the crazed snow lovers don't move to the Tug. Or Perrysburg, the Lake Erie snow magnet.

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A solid D for this winter to date in North Buffalo. A few inches from the November LES bomb, a couple short lived hits in the first week of December that might have added up to 8", and that's it. We've had lots of wind, and a bit of cold, but not much snow to show for it. Reminding me of the dud winter two years ago, except that we had a nice foot after Christmas in 2012.

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Quick question regarding lake effect:

 

With these WNW single band events, KBUF radar always shows returns over the northern parts of Niagara and Orleans counties (frictional convergence maybe?). Are these locations actually getting accumulating snow or is it just cloud precip? It's happening right now.

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Tuesday clipper looking like we'll get fringed at best now. And my location is the worst spot for these W-NW events. Only decent hope really is ahead of the shortwave Thu Night-Early Fri, and even that looks to be only a brief hope with likely shear.

 

At least Lake Erie should still be in play for at least most of January. Long ways until it gets to freezing.

 

Nov: A (Way too much to enjoy, serious threats about your safety suck that arose with the snow pack and quick melt)

Dec: F (A nice week of snow with that Nor'easter D-Zone that would never leave. And maybe the snow lovers hated it, but that week of spring around 25 December was awesome.)

 

I don't know why more of the crazed snow lovers don't move to the Tug. Or Perrysburg, the Lake Erie snow magnet.

Fixed. :snowing:

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Closing in on close to a foot of white gold here today, currently about 100ft of visibility. Been a complete whiteout for about a hour now.

Nice!  I've been watching the radar and southern Oswego/far northern Cayuga counties have been under a nice band all day.  Looks like a decent upstream connection with Lake Huron has kept it cranking.  

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Friend of mine lives about 2 miles away had nothing on the ground at 10:00am this morning now has about 18" and still snowing.

It's funny when i posted a foot here I wasn't home at the time, I got home to 4-5". It's that big of a difference between a mile north of me. Goes from 4-5" at my house a mile down the road about a foot and about 2 miles around 18". Crazy weather.

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So, allegedly some lake snow will fall over the next few days, mostly in the usual places east of Lake Ontario and Erie. The 6 people that live on the Tug should enjoy it /sarc. Some minor snows from clipper systems for everyone outside of the lake snow areas. And it'll be January cold for a bit. Hopefully not too windy. I'm no longer a fanboy of face ripping low wind chill weather.

Now that two winter months are in the books (yes I know Nov is not even met winter, but this is upstate NY and Nov is in play), what grade would you give them?

Nov: A- (the - is cuz I don't live just south of Buffalo ;))

Dec: C- (the - is for the poor form of a green XMas and generally mild, not quite snowless, holiday season)

 

Nov: A++++++ (Most insane event of my life, historic LES thread explains it all)

Dec: C (Decent synoptic event and a surprise mesoscale event in the early part of the month, I didn't mind the warmth as it keeps the lake unfrozen)

 

Tuesday clipper looking like we'll get fringed at best now. And my location is the worst spot for these W-NW events. Only decent hope really is ahead of the shortwave Thu Night-Early Fri, and even that looks to be only a brief hope with likely shear.

 

At least Lake Erie should still be in play for at least most of January. Long ways until it gets to freezing.

 

Nov: F (Way too much to enjoy, serious threats about your safety suck that arose with the snow pack and quick melt)

Dec: A (A nice week of snow with that Nor'easter D-Zone that would never leave. And maybe the snow lovers hated it, but that week of spring around 25 December was awesome.)

 

I don't know why more of the crazed snow lovers don't move to the Tug. Or Perrysburg, the Lake Erie snow magnet.

 

I could never live in a place like that. I could see myself living in the Boston Hills 1 mile from the 219 exit though. That's about as far away from civilization I go. I need to get to work in under 20 minutes. No one lives in those regions because there is no jobs in that region. Right now with no traffic I can get downtown going 10 above speed limit in 10 minutes. Normally takes me 15.

 

A solid D for this winter to date in North Buffalo. A few inches from the November LES bomb, a couple short lived hits in the first week of December that might have added up to 8", and that's it. We've had lots of wind, and a bit of cold, but not much snow to show for it. Reminding me of the dud winter two years ago, except that we had a nice foot after Christmas in 2012.

 

Yeah, North Buffalo has had it tough so far this year. Hopefully you guys can cash in within the next 2-3 weeks before the lake starts to freeze.

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I had around a foot here. I had to snowblow the driveway when I got home before I could pull my car in.

 

Congrats, enjoy!

 

Friend of mine lives about 2 miles away had nothing on the ground at 10:00am this morning now has about 18" and still snowing.

It's funny when i posted a foot here I wasn't home at the time, I got home to 4-5". It's that big of a difference between a mile north of me. Goes from 4-5" at my house a mile down the road about a foot and about 2 miles around 18". Crazy weather.

 

That's the beauty/harsh thing about lake effect. The event in Nov. had a 60 inch difference within a few miles. Unreal!

 

14" at my Dads on northshore of Oneida Lake...23" in Parish at my sister's. Snowing there now about 2-3"/hr.

 

That band was consistent and strong all day. How much did Oswego Univ. get?

 

1-2" here. At least I don't have to snowblow with subzero windchills!

 

This cold and wind is brutal, nearly froze getting gas in a matter of seconds today.

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This just issued for my area, we will see if it drifts any farther north this evening.

Snowfall rates are high within that band. I was tempted to go chase this one, but sick

and have to work early tomorrow.

...LAKE EFFECT SNOW WARNING REMAINS IN EFFECT UNTIL 7 AM EST

TUESDAY...

...LAKE EFFECT SNOW WATCH REMAINS IN EFFECT FROM TUESDAY EVENING

THROUGH WEDNESDAY MORNING...

* LOCATIONS...SOUTHERN ERIE COUNTY...ESPECIALLY NEAR THE

LAKESHORE FROM SUNSET BAY TO HAMBURG.

* TIMING...THROUGH TUESDAY MORNING...WITH A WATCH FOR TUESDAY

EVENING THROUGH WEDNESDAY MORNING.

* ACCUMULATIONS...ACCUMULATION OF 5 TO 8 INCHES IN MOST

PERSISTENT SNOWS TONIGHT INTO TUESDAY MORNING. THEN ANOTHER

ROUND OF SNOW TUESDAY NIGHT AND WEDNESDAY MORNING HAS THE

POTENTIAL TO BRING AN ADDITIONAL 6 TO 10 INCHES POSSIBLE IN

THE MOST PERSISTENT LAKE SNOWS.

* WINDS...WEST 10 TO 20 MPH.

* VISIBILITIES...BELOW A QUARTER MILE AT TIMES.

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