Central Illinois Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 Yeah its a pretty good hit across many regions just south of SE Michigan through the Ohio Valley, parts of IL and SONT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nwohweather Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 I could, the PV is strong but it further West than the current system, if the southern stream slows just a hair, this could really phase into a strong system. I can't in reality see it surging very far east, models most likely were being far too aggressive with this. Just seeing the setup it's almost a guaranteed App Runner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stebo Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 I can't in reality see it surging very far east, models most likely were being far too aggressive with this. Just seeing the setup it's almost a guaranteed App Runner Yeah as the front comes through it will run out of gas running into the ridge that will be forming along the east coast, only so far east the front can go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyclone77 Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 Looking like another good hit for the southern and eastern MW/OV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowlover2 Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 The game sunday in Cincinnati could be interesting. Would be appropriate though cause the last time Bengals and Chargers met in the playoffs was the freezer bowl in 1981. Why not a major snowstorm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geos Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 Tough call for LOT, especially after looking at the GGEM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
on_wx Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 Cool info. I didn't know Ontario region ever issued advisories. Wish they still did. EC is releasing a whole suite of new advisory products in April, including a 'Weather Advisory' which you'd think would include snow events of 4-6". We'll have to see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rainman Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 I realize that the EC has struggled lately, but let's not lose sight of the fact that it is the only world class model in existence and it has shown this storm for several consecutive runs now. Probably a good time to go back to ignoring the GFS especially given its bias toward suppression. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 I'm not sure what happens in between but... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rainman Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 NOGAPS has no gaps, son! And it crushes Ohio and SE MI. Like the Euro does. http://www.meteo.psu.edu/~fxg1/NOGAPS_0z/f108.gif Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ukrocks Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 Sunday's storm system is going to be an extremely close call for my area. I wouldn't be shocked to see a 6+ inch storm which would be my first since January of 2011, nor would I be shocked to see temperatures in the mid to upper 30's with plain rain and then some slop on the back side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AppsRunner Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 Toledo already has 18" of snow on the season and will break 20" by tomorrow. It should be fun to see if the "snow breeds snow" pattern continues here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michsnowfreak Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 Toledo already has 18" of snow on the season and will break 20" by tomorrow. It should be fun to see if the "snow breeds snow" pattern continues here.Detroit at 23.1" and counting at midnight. Nice start to winter! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thunder Road Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 I was going to be driving from Cleveland back to Valpo on Sunday. I rearranged to do it all Saturday and hopefully beat the storm there, or at least mostly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Global_Warmer Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 This is the entire GEM run. Sorry if folks take this as a trolling type post. But damn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Global_Warmer Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 That is a stout short wave out West. It meets that low level barc zone. Oh my. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Central Illinois Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 EURO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowlover2 Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 0z Euro shifts southeast some. Tracks through NE KY at hour 96. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowstorms Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 EURO Looks similar QPF wise to the GGEM. A bit cooler but overall its generally similar to what the GGEM showed across the region. The key thing to watch is the evolution of the PV and the waves of energy and how they interact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AppsRunner Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 0z Euro shifts southeast some. Tracks through NE KY at hour 96. Sub 996mb over Erie PA at 102hr. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rainman Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 Sub 996mb over Erie PA at 102hr. That puts the Euro, GEM, UKMET, and even the NOGAPS in the same camp, with the GEM the weakest of the four. The GFS has been abandoned by the other guidance. Bring on the snow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hm8 Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 Flight outta here to Norman doesn't leave until Monday afternoon.... Might luck out on the timing here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AppsRunner Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 Verbatim NWOH sees another 6-12" storm on the euro. Big story still the ridiculous temps afterwards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Global_Warmer Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 given the low level air-mass in place. I would be very surprised if we don't see a bit of a NW trend here in terms of strength but also precip field more than the SLP going a lot further NW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nwohweather Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 Verbatim NWOH sees another 6-12" storm on the euro. Big story still the ridiculous temps afterwards The wind looks awesome with this system, maybe our first blizzard conditions since Groundhog Day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toronto blizzard Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 Verbatim NWOH sees another 6-12" storm on the euro. Big story still the ridiculous temps afterwardsI'm assuming based on the track YYZ sees that much too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AppsRunner Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 I'm assuming based on the track YYZ sees that much too? ~.85" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Global_Warmer Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 LOCK IT IN PLEASE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Smith Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 I have the feeling this storm could develop even stronger than currently depicted on most models and turn into a real monster. It would only take a slightly stronger trough to bring this about. Maybe the 12z runs will capture this potential. Track would be a little west of what's being shown now but like the 1978 storm this would super-rotate and pressures would fall very rapidly along the track. Michigan, Ontario and Ohio are particularly at risk for a very severe blizzard out of this scenario. Energy from the open waters of the Great Lakes in proximity to this astounding thermal gradient might be enough to tip the scales. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Global_Warmer Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 I have the feeling this storm could develop even stronger than currently depicted on most models and turn into a real monster. It would only take a slightly stronger trough to bring this about. Maybe the 12z runs will capture this potential. Track would be a little west of what's being shown now but like the 1978 storm this would super-rotate and pressures would fall very rapidly along the track. Michigan, Ontario and Ohio are particularly at risk for a very severe blizzard out of this scenario. Energy from the open waters of the Great Lakes in proximity to this astounding thermal gradient might be enough to tip the scales. Even crazier will be the cold behind that scenario. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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