dendrite Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 Different sites may be using different GRIB resolutions. I believe ours is 12km like the ewall one I posted. The others may display 32km or 40km. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N. OF PIKE Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 By 9z it's almost into VT...tickles over around Boston...32f at ground is pretty far inland. Again it's the NAM, but this is yet again warmer than the earlier run. The question (s) for that 9z panel for e mass n of pike Will rates dynamically cool the column at 4 am so bos and ne mass is still snow. Too bad i won't know. Fwiw i think it may be in and out of nne very quick and also sne quicker than shown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhoon Tip Posted December 14, 2013 Author Share Posted December 14, 2013 Blocking is great...just not when the blocking is so strong the jet is suppressed down to FL. That was pretty much the snowmeggedon winter recently in the M/A Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhoon Tip Posted December 14, 2013 Author Share Posted December 14, 2013 Coastal front starting to show its hand. East winds at PVC, GHG, and FMH, but winds are still northerly at BOS, TAN, and EWB. Using a pure viscous argument, that might be a nice track for the low ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lava Rock Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 A bit of sleet tomorrow in my pnc. doesn't look like anyone gets sparred. Is this thing done with the NW trend? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N. OF PIKE Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 Coastal front starting to show its hand. East winds at PVC, GHG, and FMH, but winds are still northerly at BOS, TAN, and EWB. I am gonna be watchin that front closely. Snowing nicely @ S station bos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OceanStWx Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 Using a pure viscous argument, that might be a nice track for the low ... Pretty much on the climo favored track. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clinch Leatherwood Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 Different sites may be using different GRIB resolutions. I believe ours is 12km like the ewall one I posted. The others may display 32km or 40km. Makes sense. I'm not sure I buy it to be honest. To me this looks like a clear situation where CT etc taints quite a bit before NE RI and interior south shore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 By 9z it's almost into VT...tickles over around Boston...32f at ground is pretty far inland. Again it's the NAM, but this is yet again warmer than the earlier run. That's what I have at 9z....maybe a bit further south on the west end but that's the resolution of graphics. I'm looking forward to a nice thump. Low level temps away from the coast are too warm in the models. Euro remained much colder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrisrotary12 Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 At work on phone. Very healthy radar returns down near DC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 I am gonna be watchin that front closely. Snowing nicely @ S station bos You waiting on what train to take? Lol... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattb65 Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 Here's the blow up..at the rate it's moving it's pushing towards the city not long after. 6z If you go on the hi-res NAM the cold air at 850 "battles" back in eastern sections - for lack of a better word - for the next couple hours and doesn't progress a ton from that position. However, by 9z it's on the doorsteps of BOS and by 10z it's pushed north. http://www.meteo.psu.edu/~fxg1/ewallhires.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N. OF PIKE Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 You waiting on what train to take? Lol... Concord coach 30$ , not baaaad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moneypitmike Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 I'm eager to see the new NWS offfices' maps. Is everyone sticking to their guns from their earlier calls/maps? I think I had given a first/last call of 7-10" at the Pit a couple days ago. I'm going to stick with that. Generally speaking, I think: Northern Mass may still eek out 6-12, but few people outside of a few folks near VT (hi) and NH (west of where 190 points to) will realize the higher end. The remainder of Mass will be 5-8: CT 6-7 near the Mass line (up to 8+ in northern Litchfield), trending down to a couple in coastal NL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 If you go on the hi-res NAM the cold air at 850 "battles" back in eastern sections - for lack of a better word - for the next couple hours and doesn't progress a ton from that position. However, by 9z it's on the doorsteps of BOS and by 10z it's pushed north. http://www.meteo.psu.edu/~fxg1/ewallhires.html Yeah, but the NCEP/ewall maps that show it bisecting RI aren't the 4km hires. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattb65 Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 Yeah, but the NCEP/ewall maps that show it bisecting RI aren't the 4km hires. Agree, just putting it in there for comparison. I'm eager to see which model and resolution ends up verifying better with timing and temps and everything else as we see the event progresses. One of those deals where dual-pol will come in handy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moneypitmike Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 Did Wiz write my forecast tonight? Late Afternoon: Snow showers. High near 12. Wind chill values as low as -2. Northeast wind around 7 mph. Chance of precipitation is 100%. Total daytime snow accumulation of less than one inch possible.Tonight: Snow. The snow could be heavy at times. Some thunder is also possible. Temperature rising to around 18 by 3am. Wind chill values as low as -2. Northeast wind 6 to 11 mph. Chance of precipitation is 100%. New snow accumulation of 6 to 10 inches possible.Sunday: Snow showers, freezing rain, and sleet before 11am, then a chance of snow showers. Some thunder is also possible. High near 29. Northeast wind 7 to 17 mph becoming northwest in the afternoon. Chance of precipitation is 80%. New snow and sleet accumulation of 3 to 5 inches possible Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bboughton Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 Matt Noyes says he's upping the #s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhoon Tip Posted December 14, 2013 Author Share Posted December 14, 2013 Wow, NAM's 18z makes it short sleeve weather at Logan ... heh, not really, but it does blast +8C 2-meter temps into SE-E Mass... . not sure I buy that, but it is interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 Matt Noyes says he's upping the #s. For where? Caribou? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moneypitmike Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 Matt Noyes says he's upping the #s. "Upping" or "updating" Where he upping them--PF? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 Some IMHOs. Siting some G wave clouds on radar off LI, depiction radar is a fantastic tool, snow rain has actually dropped south for the time being, surface LP is rapidly forming in ENC, winds and temps are responding as well. Something to watch for icing concerns. HRRR is very bullish. At any rate figuring this all out is fun. Lt snow 3/4 new at home, 18, dropped a degree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bboughton Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 Matt Noyes @MattNoyesNECN27m Southern New England looks reasonably on-track. Will make a few changes to increase amounts some spots for 5PM show. Matt Noyes @MattNoyesNECN27m Large-scale increase in snow amounts will be necessary in Northern new England. More to follow shortly. "Upping" or "updating" Where he upping them--PF? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OceanStWx Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 Did Wiz write my forecast tonight? Nice, hand editing the zones. I don't think we have the ability to put thunder in without a thunderstorm in the grids. Takes a lot of work to go through each zone and add it where you think it's possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moneypitmike Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 Nice, hand editing the zones. I don't think we have the ability to put thunder in without a thunderstorm in the grids. Takes a lot of work to go through each zone and add it where you think it's possible. That was the p/c. Here's the zfp. Tonight: Snow this evening...then snow...sleet with a slight chance of thunderstorms after midnight. Snow may be heavy at times. Additional snow and sleet accumulation of 6 to 10 inches. Cold with lows around 11. Temperature rising to around 19 after midnight. Northeast winds 15 to 20 mph. Chance of precipitation near 100 percent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnowMan Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 That was the p/c. Here's the zfp. Tonight: Snow this evening...then snow...sleet with a slight chance of thunderstorms after midnight. Snow may be heavy at times. Additional snow and sleet accumulation of 6 to 10 inches. Cold with lows around 11. Temperature rising to around 19 after midnight. Northeast winds 15 to 20 mph. Chance of precipitation near 100 percent I have thunder mentioned in mine too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OceanStWx Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 That was the p/c. Here's the zfp. Tonight: Snow this evening...then snow...sleet with a slight chance of thunderstorms after midnight. Snow may be heavy at times. Additional snow and sleet accumulation of 6 to 10 inches. Cold with lows around 11. Temperature rising to around 19 after midnight. Northeast winds 15 to 20 mph. Chance of precipitation near 100 percent Ah, so they added thunderstorms to the grids to get the wording to fall out of the formatters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tropopause_Fold Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 well nam isn't alone in driving the mid-level warmth northward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DomNH Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 I have thunder mentioned in mine too I'll probably stay up til 1:30-2 just on the off chance we get some thundersnow, though it never seems to happen here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 People taking the product literally which often do not denote the clear cut thoughts of the forecast office due to submission software. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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