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December 13-14th Winter Storm


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WWA issued for northern IN counties except those in LOT cwa. I know there's still some uncertainty regarding the track, but you'd have to think LOT will issue an advisory for the southern portions.... 

 

URGENT - WINTER WEATHER MESSAGE  

NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE CHICAGO IL  

750 PM CST THU DEC 12 2013  

   

..MORE SNOWFALL FRIDAY NIGHT THROUGH SATURDAY MORNING  

 

.SNOW WILL SPREAD NORTHEAST OVER THE AREA DURING EARLY FRIDAY  

EVENING AND PERSIST THROUGH THE NIGHT AND THEN GRADUALLY TAPER IN  

INTENSITY THROUGH SATURDAY MORNING. SOME LINGERING LIGHT SNOW  

IS POSSIBLE INTO SATURDAY AFTERNOON.  

 

ILZ019-021>023-032-033-039-INZ001-002-010-011-019-131000-  

/O.NEW.KLOT.WW.Y.0010.131214T0000Z-131214T1800Z/  

LA SALLE-GRUNDY-WILL-KANKAKEE-LIVINGSTON-IROQUOIS-FORD-LAKE IN-  

PORTER-NEWTON-JASPER-BENTON-  

INCLUDING THE CITIES OF...OTTAWA...MORRIS...JOLIET...KANKAKEE...  

PONTIAC...WATSEKA...PAXTON...GARY...VALPARAISO...MOROCCO...  

RENSSELAER...FOWLER  

750 PM CST THU DEC 12 2013 /850 PM EST THU DEC 12 2013/  

 

...WINTER WEATHER ADVISORY IN EFFECT FROM 6 PM CST /7 PM EST/  

FRIDAY TO NOON CST /1 PM EST/ SATURDAY...  

 

THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN CHICAGO HAS ISSUED A WINTER  

WEATHER ADVISORY FOR SNOW...WHICH IS IN EFFECT FROM 6 PM CST  

FRIDAY TO NOON CST SATURDAY.  

 

* TIMING...SNOW BEGINNING FRIDAY EVENING AND LASTING INTO  

SATURDAY MORNING.  

 

* ACCUMULATION...TOTAL SNOW ACCUMULATION OF 3 TO 6 INCHES BY LATE  

SATURDAY MORNING.  

 

* SNOWFALL RATES...UP TO ONE HALF INCH PER HOUR...THOUGH HIGHER  

RATES ARE POSSIBLE FRIDAY EVENING.  

 

 

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I have been watching the model runs closely the last few days. I am liking what I am seeing for the Peoria area. Looks like a solid 5-6 inches or so per tonights NAM. It's showing about .8-.9 inches of precip but it usually is too high. Perfect timing as my snow thrower is broke, lol.  It locked up on me last night when I pulled the cord to start it. Considering its about 14 years old, I think it has seen its day :)

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I have been watching the model runs closely the last few days. I am liking what I am seeing for the Peoria area. Looks like a solid 5-6 inches or so per tonights NAM. It's showing about .8-.9 inches of precip but it usually is too high. Perfect timing as my snow thrower is broke, lol.  It locked up on me last night when I pulled the cord to start it. Considering its about 14 years old, I think it has seen its day :)

 

Yeah, definitely one of the best runs of the NAM for Central IL overall so far.

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Something has been irritating me with the NAM that I can't figure out.  It keeps trying to take surface temps to freezing here overnight Friday/early Saturday.  There's that menacing LLJ of 15-20 kts overhead (!) but considering time of day and ongoing precip, it just doesn't really add up and I haven't seen another model showing this.   

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Something has been irritating me with the NAM that I can't figure out. It keeps trying to take surface temps to freezing here overnight Friday/early Saturday. There's that menacing LLJ of 15-20 kts overhead (!) but considering time of day and ongoing precip, it just doesn't really add up and I haven't seen another model showing this.

Yep, takes surface temps above freezing almost to Cleveland in Ohio. We'd have snow melting on contact for most of us. It's definitely a concern if correct.

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Damn, nice run for almost everyone in this sub-forum

 

A nice 5-8" coming in for the GTA, beautiful run. High snow ratios and by the looks of it, LES looks to be a factor.

 

 

8" seems like a stretch. NAM never gets the flow to veer to more than 75, maybe 80 degrees, which won't get Toronto into the LES game except for the Islands and may the immediate shoreline.

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This time we don't have temps in the mid 60s the day before. Ground is frozen and snow covered.

True, but I'm guessing just based on the maps that temps get up to the mid/upper 30's and with it being during the day...tough to get much to accumulate. Still though, I'd lean on the much more consistent GFS which really hasn't waffled much.

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8" seems like a stretch. NAM never gets the flow to veer to more than 75, maybe 80 degrees, which won't get Toronto into the LES game except for the Islands and may the immediate shoreline.

Ratio's at the onslaught of the event look pretty impressive with the DGZ ~450mb deep. Centre of LP transfers to the coast before the area of low pressure lifts north enough which robs us of flow greater then 80 degree's. Still really nice run, especially for oakville/ hamilton with that NE lake enhancement.

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True, but I'm guessing just based on the maps that temps get up to the mid/upper 30's and with it being during the day...tough to get much to accumulate. Still though, I'd lean on the much more consistent GFS which really hasn't waffled much.

 

I feel good about this not having significant mixing issues....minor issues towards the end?  yes....but I think it's primarily snow front to back.

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Chicago NWS

 

THE UPPER LOW ACROSS AZ THIS EVE IS BEGINNING TO TAP INTO THE
SUBTROPICAL JET AND SEEING QUICKLY COOLING CLOUD TOPS ACROSS THE
SOUTHERN PLAINS. ALL GUIDANCE SEEMS TO HAVE A GOOD HANDLE ON THIS
POSITION AND LEAD VORT ENTERING THE TX PANHANDLE...WHICH ACTUALLY
LOOKS TO BE THE INSTIGATOR TO THE SNOWFALL FRI AFTERNOON IN
WESTERN/CENTRAL IL. THE QUICK PROGRESSION OF THIS WAVE AND BROAD
MOIST ADVECTION SURGE NORTHWARD OCCURS INTO THE FORECAST AREA
MAINLY DURING THE EVE...ALTHOUGH DO EXPECT SOME SNOW LIKELY TO
HAVE BEGUN AROUND THE PONTIAC AREA PRIOR TO 6 PM...EVEN GIVEN
SLOWER SOLUTIONS. SNOWFALL LOOKS TO SPREAD NORTH ACROSS THE SOUTH
CHICAGO METRO DURING THE EARLY EVE AND LIKELY ACROSS MUCH OF THE
METRO BY MIDNIGHT...BUT THE HEAVIER RATES ARE FAVORED MORE SO
ACROSS THE SOUTH. THE ENHANCED CONVERGENCE AND MODEST TIGHTENING
OF THE MID-LEVEL THERMAL GRADIENT IN PLACE ALLOW FOR THE
LIKELIHOOD OF SOME EVENING BANDING IN THE ADVISORY AREA WHERE
SNOWFALL RATES WOULD EXCEED ONE HALF INCH PER HOUR FOR A PERIOD.

THE 00Z NAM HAS TRENDED SLIGHTLY SLOWER AND THAT LEADS TO A
LITTLE LESS TOTAL QPF FURTHER NORTH...SUCH AS INTO CHICAGO. ALL IN
ALL IT PUTS IT CLOSER TO THE MEAN SOLUTION OF THE NCEP
MODELS/EC/GEM. THERE SHOULD BE A TIGHT GRADIENT IN SNOW THROUGH
MID FRI EVE...MAYBE EVEN TIGHTER THAN GUIDANCE IS INDICATING...AND
EVEN SEEING THAT HINTED AT WITHIN THE SIMULATED REFLECTIVITY OF
HIGH RES MODELS THAT HAVE SOLUTIONS THAT FAR OUT. THIS SHOULD
BECOME MORE DIFFUSE INTO OVERNIGHT AS THE MID-LEVEL WAVE OF THE
NORTHERN STREAM INTERACTS WITH THE SOUTHERN SYSTEM AND THE AREA
FILLS IN WITH LIFT AND SATURATION.

THOUGHT ABOUT INCLUDING A FEW COUNTIES FURTHER NORTH IN THE
ADVISORY INCLUDING COOK...BUT HAVE OPTED TO WAIT AT THIS TIME.
THERE WILL IN ALL LIKELIHOOD BE A GRADIENT IN SNOWFALL FROM NORTH-
TO-SOUTH ACROSS COOK COUNTY...PLUS THERE COULD BE SOME LAKE
ENHANCEMENT SATURDAY MORNING AND MAYBE EVEN LAKE EFFECT SNOW
SHOWERS INTO SATURDAY AFTERNOON. SO WOULD RATHER GIVE THE MIDNIGHT
SHIFT SOME LEEWAY TO NOT ONLY BETTER REFINE WHERE THE SYNOPTIC
GRADIENT OF SNOWFALL WILL BE AND JUST HOW TIGHT IT WILL BE...BUT
ALSO DURATION OF SNOW.

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Ratio's at the onslaught of the event look pretty impressive with the DGZ ~450mb deep. Centre of LP transfers to the coast before the area of low pressure lifts north enough which robs us of flow greater then 80 degree's. Still really nice run, especially for oakville/ hamilton with that NE lake enhancement.

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What would be a good wind direction for the Mississauga area? I would just like to know the general wind direction someone in south Mississauga would look for in these events since they happen occasionally throughout the winter. Thanks 

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In my personal experience, not the best to be on the northern fringes of these things as the storm rolls in. We will see how this develops tomorrow, but I'm gonna have to be a little less optimistic this time. I'm saying ORD gets less than an inch, and 1-2 at MDW.

 

Yeah I agree. I've seen this too many times where the gradient ends up being much tighter than predicted. I expect to watch this thing march in from the SW on radar, and the northern edge of precip never fully makes it into our area. Bummer. 

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