dendrite Posted November 20, 2013 Share Posted November 20, 2013 That -14 to -18 on Ens south to north on the 24/25th is just incredible for this time of year It's pretty much at H85 record levels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted November 20, 2013 Share Posted November 20, 2013 I think this further illustrates our point that the Pacific rules the roost . Atlantic is important but if PAC is favorable it really doesn't matter greatly the state of the ATL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted November 20, 2013 Author Share Posted November 20, 2013 It's pretty much at H85 record levels. It was 8 days out...but the OP Euro was threatening the all time November record low max for Turkey Day at ORH...the all time record is 20F and it was very close to that. Even the ensmebles are mid 20s which is impressive at this range. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted November 20, 2013 Share Posted November 20, 2013 Cape Cod winter this year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian5671 Posted November 20, 2013 Share Posted November 20, 2013 Geez, I guess I'm garbage than, no one should listen to my posts, because they have garbage info in them. Whatever. How old are you? Jesus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted November 20, 2013 Share Posted November 20, 2013 James we are just busting your chops a bit because you've had some interesting posts. You definitely have a passion for weather so we might be hard on you, but it's for the good. We salute You. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forkyfork Posted November 20, 2013 Share Posted November 20, 2013 The first winter event of 2002 was Nov 16th, the first snowstorm Nov 27th,october had wet coastal storms Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forkyfork Posted November 20, 2013 Share Posted November 20, 2013 I think this further illustrates our point that the Pacific rules the roost . Atlantic is important but if PAC is favorable it really doesn't matter greatly the state of the ATLthe atlantic is why we're not getting any storms Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted November 20, 2013 Share Posted November 20, 2013 the atlantic is why we're not getting any storms Who cares..it's cold..eventually it will snow ..esp with -WPO/-EPO combo = cold in East Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted November 20, 2013 Author Share Posted November 20, 2013 the atlantic is why we're not getting any storms Yeah the Atlantic is keeping the pattern quite progressive. The PAC is causing the cold, but for a blocked up pattern conductive for lots of big coastals, you want a good -NAO...without that, you get a lot of SWFE or other fast moving systems. We get a transient east-based block (should really just called it a ridge) next week which may help out with that coastal threat by temporarily trying to slow things down a bit, but its obviously not a classic block. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted November 20, 2013 Share Posted November 20, 2013 Noyes is posting weenie maps on FB. With some caveats, but who reads those Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forkyfork Posted November 20, 2013 Share Posted November 20, 2013 Yeah the Atlantic is keeping the pattern quite progressive. The PAC is causing the cold, but for a blocked up pattern conductive for lots of big coastals, you want a good -NAO...without that, you get a lot of SWFE or other fast moving systems. We get a transient east-based block (should really just called it a ridge) next week which may help out with that coastal threat by temporarily trying to slow things down a bit, but its obviously not a classic block.there was a swfe threat on the models for this weekend and that's gone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted November 20, 2013 Share Posted November 20, 2013 18Z GFS hs snow in the air for many Sunday with 504 thicknesses down to NYC Sunday afternoon. That's cold muthufukkas! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted November 20, 2013 Author Share Posted November 20, 2013 there was a swfe threat on the models for this weekend and that's gone We never really got inside of 7 days on that one. We'd probably want the PNA to go a bit negative to bring more SWFE threats if the NAO stays positive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StatenWx Posted November 20, 2013 Share Posted November 20, 2013 Can anyone toss me a link for the snow coverage last year at this time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tropopause_Fold Posted November 20, 2013 Share Posted November 20, 2013 little weak inverted surface trough and probably some ocean enhancement on the 18z gfs...looks relatively similar to the euro evolution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radarman Posted November 20, 2013 Share Posted November 20, 2013 Can anyone toss me a link for the snow coverage last year at this time. http://www.natice.noaa.gov/pub/ims/ims_gif/ARCHIVE/NHem/2012/ims2012325.gif Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROOSTA Posted November 20, 2013 Share Posted November 20, 2013 snow-cover: http://www.natice.noaa.gov/ims/gif_archive.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StatenWx Posted November 20, 2013 Share Posted November 20, 2013 http://www.natice.noaa.gov/pub/ims/ims_gif/ARCHIVE/NHem/2012/ims2012325.gif Thank you much appreciated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clinch Leatherwood Posted November 20, 2013 Share Posted November 20, 2013 little weak inverted surface trough and probably some ocean enhancement on the 18z gfs...looks relatively similar to the euro evolution. Euro seems sniff these out a little faster then the others come around. Be nice to get some more snow pre thanksgiving Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesnichols1989 Posted November 20, 2013 Share Posted November 20, 2013 Anytime you have an H5 disturbance bringing the trough through south of 40N, you are going to have a good snowstorm setup for Cape Cod, MA. I remember Scott talking about this in the December 20th 2010 storm thread. Classic Cape Cod, MA snowstorms have the H5 low move to the south of 40N. Thank you Scott, my passion might be matched by others, but I have never lost it, and I don't think I ever will forget my passion for the weather. I'm 24 years old, but immature little child at heart. I have gone through some things that many others would never wish on their worst enemy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted November 20, 2013 Share Posted November 20, 2013 Euro seems sniff these out a little faster then the others come around. Be nice to get some more snow pre thanksgiving Well if there is anything at all to throw caution flags at, its weak inverted troughs, lol. Though the GFS looked ok with even 0.1-0.25" QPF up here for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted November 20, 2013 Share Posted November 20, 2013 The euro ensembles definitely has a nice cold load into the US. Still waxing and waning a bit in the PAC, but this one has slightly better heights out west and weaker SE ridge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted November 20, 2013 Share Posted November 20, 2013 little weak inverted surface trough and probably some ocean enhancement on the 18z gfs...looks relatively similar to the euro evolution. Yeah nice little event on that for cstl SE areas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesnichols1989 Posted November 20, 2013 Share Posted November 20, 2013 I think overall inverted troughs over perform when it comes to an H5 low moving south of 40N latitude. So the location of the inverted trough will greatly impact where the best snows will form as most know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toronto blizzard Posted November 20, 2013 Share Posted November 20, 2013 The euro ensembles definitely has a nice cold load into the US. Still waxing and waning a bit in the PAC, but this one has slightly better heights out west and weaker SE ridge. From what I saw the 00z EC ensembles didn't have much of a SE ridge and the 12z don't have one either. Unless you mean a SE ridge around Dec 1&2? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moneypitmike Posted November 20, 2013 Share Posted November 20, 2013 Phil and Messenger out shoveling; pond-skating up in GC. I'd rather be shoveling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moneypitmike Posted November 20, 2013 Share Posted November 20, 2013 Well if there is anything at all to throw caution flags at, its weak inverted troughs, lol. Though the GFS looked ok with even 0.1-0.25" QPF up here for that. You can throw caution flags for those 12 hours out. At this timeframe.......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted November 20, 2013 Share Posted November 20, 2013 Phil and Messenger out shoveling; pond-skating up in GC. I'd rather be shoveling. It may never snow again in the interior. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted November 20, 2013 Share Posted November 20, 2013 Poor mpm....it never snows anymore in gc... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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